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Post by someguy on Jul 18, 2017 13:11:39 GMT
Playing sports is conservative, while being artistic is liberal? Are you positive about that? Well, the core premise of sports is competition for the sake of competition. That definitely seems more in line with classic conservatism, and I'd bet a lot of money that a majority of NFL coaches vote republican (although I admit I don't know for a fact).
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Post by bd74 on Jul 18, 2017 14:28:15 GMT
No Country For Old Men
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Post by koskiewicz on Jul 18, 2017 16:44:30 GMT
...a few in no order:
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The Parallax View
Mr Deeds Goes to Town
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Post by Archelaus on Jul 18, 2017 17:12:23 GMT
Platoon and Born on the Fourth of July- Critical of the Vietnam War JFK -Suggests there is an unsolved conspiracy as to who killed President John F. Kennedy Bowling for Columbine - Critical of America's gun culture Fahrenheit 9/11 - Critical of the Bush administration's War on Terror policy Sicko - Critical of the American healthcare system Capitalism: A Love Story - Critical of the financial system that led to the Great Recession Traffic - Critical of the War on Drugs Good Night, and Good Luck - Crash - Examination of race relations in Los Angeles Do the Right Thing - Examination of race relations between blacks and Italian-Americans Boyz n the Hood - Showcases contemporary urban life for black Americans Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 18, 2017 17:16:59 GMT
Honestly, War for the Planet of the Apes had a pretty blatant political message. Harrelson was a Donald Trump figure and they obviously didn't portray him in a good light.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 18, 2017 17:19:35 GMT
Any Michael Moore movie. Truth (2015) - about Dan Rather's failed attempt to take down George W. Bush
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jul 19, 2017 0:32:35 GMT
Good question, but the OP on Forrest Gump is full of wat.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 19, 2017 1:04:49 GMT
Avatar - a checklist of left wing viewpoints
300 - a checklist of right wing viewpoints
Zero Dark Thirty - "enhanced interrogation" = gets the job done
Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy - fascism, including elements of the War on Terror, can be a necessary evil
Star Trek Into Darkness/possibly Iron Man 3 - allegory for truther conspiracies
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 19, 2017 2:32:17 GMT
Maybe it undoes all the pro-conservative sentiment though by making him a retard? My point exactly. Lt. Dan starts as a conservative and ends a liberal, well, more or less.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 19, 2017 2:38:52 GMT
Maybe it undoes all the pro-conservative sentiment though by making him a retard? Or.. it's celebrating low intelligence as a virtue. I never thought about it but I guess Forrest Gump can be seen either way, which makes it even greater imo. I feel the movie is saying politics is rather silly and that LOVE is the only thing that matters in life. I mean, no matter how badly Jenny screws up, Forrest loves her and doesn't judge her.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 19, 2017 4:03:24 GMT
Avatar - a checklist of left wing viewpoints 300 - a checklist of right wing viewpoints Zero Dark Thirty - "enhanced interrogation" = gets the job done Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy - fascism, including elements of the War on Terror, can be a necessary evil Star Trek Into Darkness/possibly Iron Man 3 - allegory for truther conspiracies Those are all dead-on. I remember that there was this critic that said, "The Dark Knight Rises may be a fascist movie, but it's a damn good fascist movie", or something to that degree. I don't know if I see that, but the entire trilogy does seem to appeal to Conservatives more than Liberals. 300 is right-wing in its...everything really, but it's surprising to see because Snyder doesn't seem that way in real life. Maybe it was Frank Miller and his vision?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 4:18:43 GMT
things like civil rights and women's rights are mentioned in a positive light in Forrest Gump which would anger conservatives Nonsense. Conservatives fought for those issues long before anyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 4:20:30 GMT
Maybe it undoes all the pro-conservative sentiment though by making him a retard? My point exactly. Lt. Dan starts as a conservative and ends a liberal, well, more or less. Lt. Dan ended as a liberal? LOL Where did you concoct that? He was a liberal when he did nothing but booze and party with no obligations. Then he became a conservative, worked hard, found a decent woman. Honestly, do you really believe Lt. Dan was a liberal by the end of Forrest Gump? You are delusional.
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Post by moviemouth on Jul 19, 2017 4:30:33 GMT
My point exactly. Lt. Dan starts as a conservative and ends a liberal, well, more or less. Lt. Dan ended as a liberal? LOL Where did you concoct that? He was a liberal when he did nothing but booze and party with no obligations. Then he became a conservative, worked hard, found a decent woman. Honestly, do you really believe Lt. Dan was a liberal by the end of Forrest Gump? You are delusional. From what I remember he hits rock bottom and then gets his life back together and marries a Vietnamese woman. The sounds more middle ground than conservative to me. He's certainly more towards the liberal side than when he started. Or are you trying to say that only conservatives work hard and are able to find decent women?
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Post by mikef6 on Jul 19, 2017 5:19:11 GMT
Most of the titles chosen as "liberal" are bogus because "liberal" has come to mean just "not-right wing extremist." The "liberal" viewpoints seemingly found in movies are mainly mainstream common sense American beliefs. Not many mentioned are "blatant" as the O.P. requires.
It is right-wingers who are always "blatant" and, usually, delusional.
One idiot winger is Dinesh D'Souza who keeps getting more out of touch with Reality with each passing day. His Hillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party and 2016: Obama's America speaks for itself as a testimony of what Conservatism has become: a collection of lies and paranoid fantasies.
Mel "What Women Want" Gibson is another example of extreme Conservatism and religious fundamentalism in film: The Passion Of The Christ with its funde theology and The Patriot with its historical revisionism are a couple of good examples of how conservatives distort history and religion.
And then there is Kirk Cameron, who should be an embarrassment to conservatives but is never criticized by them, continues to make a fool of himself with silliness like: Saving Christmas and Monumental: Restoring America as the Land of Liberty.
Conservatives also flock to movies based on lies and urban legends, viz. God's Not Dead, God's Not Dead 2, and I'm Not Ashamed.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 19, 2017 8:00:34 GMT
Those are all dead-on. I remember that there was this critic that said, "The Dark Knight Rises may be a fascist movie, but it's a damn good fascist movie", or something to that degree. I don't know if I see that, but the entire trilogy does seem to appeal to Conservatives more than Liberals. 300 is right-wing in its...everything really, but it's surprising to see because Snyder doesn't seem that way in real life. Maybe it was Frank Miller and his vision? The Dark Knight is the most overt about it. Harvey Dent compares Batman favorably to fascists being appointed to protect Rome in times of need. Dent is still a good guy at this point, and Bruce likes the comparison so much he decides to sponsor him. Then over the course of the film Batman illegally extradites Lou, tortures suspects, spies on civilians, and lies to the public for the greater good. TDKR is kind of wishy washy, but Gotham is apparently a police state under the Dent Act and not much is made out of it except it being based on a lie. Then the villain poses as a left wing revolutionary and the city descends into mob rule without Batman. Miller is definitely a right winger, but so is Snyder I would say. First of all, he wants to make an Ayn Rand movie. All of his superheroes kill. There's always evil gays or gay stereotypes in his movies (the guy who wears women's shoes in Dawn of the Dead, the Persians being "boy-lovers" in 300, Ozy made explicitly gay in Watchmen, etc). Not much pointing to the left.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 12:42:19 GMT
Most of the titles chosen as "liberal" are bogus because "liberal" has come to mean just "not-right wing extremist." The "liberal" viewpoints seemingly found in movies are mainly mainstream common sense American beliefs. Not many mentioned are "blatant" as the O.P. requires. It is right-wingers who are always "blatant" and, usually, delusional. One idiot winger is Dinesh D'Souza who keeps getting more out of touch with Reality with each passing day. His Hillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party and 2016: Obama's America speaks for itself as a testimony of what Conservatism has become: a collection of lies and paranoid fantasies. Mel "What Women Want" Gibson is another example of extreme Conservatism and religious fundamentalism in film: The Passion Of The Christ with its funde theology and The Patriot with its historical revisionism are a couple of good examples of how conservatives distort history and religion. And then there is Kirk Cameron, who should be an embarrassment to conservatives but is never criticized by them, continues to make a fool of himself with silliness like: Saving Christmas and Monumental: Restoring America as the Land of Liberty. Conservatives also flock to movies based on lies and urban legends, viz. God's Not Dead, God's Not Dead 2, and I'm Not Ashamed. You suggest liberal just means not right-wing extremist then go on to suggest that conservatives are Kirk Cameron adoring, conspiracy theorist, delusional Christians. Nice work, fella.
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Post by mikef6 on Jul 19, 2017 14:04:41 GMT
Most of the titles chosen as "liberal" are bogus because "liberal" has come to mean just "not-right wing extremist." The "liberal" viewpoints seemingly found in movies are mainly mainstream common sense American beliefs. Not many mentioned are "blatant" as the O.P. requires. It is right-wingers who are always "blatant" and, usually, delusional. One idiot winger is Dinesh D'Souza who keeps getting more out of touch with Reality with each passing day. His Hillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party and 2016: Obama's America speaks for itself as a testimony of what Conservatism has become: a collection of lies and paranoid fantasies. Mel "What Women Want" Gibson is another example of extreme Conservatism and religious fundamentalism in film: The Passion Of The Christ with its funde theology and The Patriot with its historical revisionism are a couple of good examples of how conservatives distort history and religion. And then there is Kirk Cameron, who should be an embarrassment to conservatives but is never criticized by them, continues to make a fool of himself with silliness like: Saving Christmas and Monumental: Restoring America as the Land of Liberty. Conservatives also flock to movies based on lies and urban legends, viz. God's Not Dead, God's Not Dead 2, and I'm Not Ashamed. You suggest liberal just means not right-wing extremist then go on to suggest that conservatives are Kirk Cameron adoring, conspiracy theorist, delusional Christians. Nice work, fella. Conservatism controls political discourse in the U.S. Loudmouth right-wingers have bludgeoned media into accepting only two places on the political spectrum: 1) there is the extremist Republican Party in its ninth year of its racist rampage to destroy the economy and country out of a race-based panic at the election of our first African-American President - driven only by hate, rage, and fear and 2) anybody else, no matter how moderate and reasoned their political stance might be, is "liberal." There are no other choices. Either extremist "right" or Liberal. And this is the way conservatives want it. The films they make confirm it.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Jul 19, 2017 17:07:54 GMT
Lt. Dan a liberal.... right.
In the US, there are only two parties - Republican and Republican-lite. Even my European friends who pride themselves on being hip to politics seem to forget Obama's wars.
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Post by janntosh on Jul 22, 2017 18:05:00 GMT
We've been getting a lot of liberal propaganda movies recently
Miss Sloane HIidden Figures Get Out Logan Spider-Man Homecoming
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