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Post by hi224 on Aug 19, 2017 21:18:22 GMT
mecano04 's story reminded me of a few others: 1. The impossible "suicide" of Capt. George M. Colvocoresses in Bridgeport, CT, in 1872. 2. The murder of Carl Gros in Maspeth, NY, in 1891. The bullet penetrated his body but left no holes in his clothing. 3. The disappearance of a 4 ton wrecking ball from a construction site (Dowling Construction Company, Indianapolis, IN) in 1974. 4. The mutilation of a horse called Skippy in 1967; the horse had been mutilated in a muddy field, but without any footprints around him! 5. The impossible suicide/SHC of Glen B. Denney in Algiers, LA, in 1952. A spontaneous human combustion case just as fascinating as Mary Reeser, let me note! crazy.
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Post by Nalkarj on Aug 19, 2017 21:37:26 GMT
mecano04 and hi224(Mecano, no worries at all about the Internet situation, and thanks for letting us know!) I've looked up the Denney story because there's some doubt about that too, apparently. The Louisiana state records office's website informs me that there was a "Glenn B. Denney" who died in Algiers, LA, in 1952, but one would have to pay for any more information--the cause of death, for example. Still, I think the story is somewhat verified, at least.
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Post by hi224 on Aug 19, 2017 21:39:16 GMT
Im intrigued by the caps death honestly.
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Post by hi224 on Aug 20, 2017 2:44:11 GMT
what do you think happened here?
1942 – On 16 August, U.S. Navy blimp L-8 drifted inland from its route doing antisubmarine patrol off the coast of California near San Francisco several hours after its crew, Lt. Ernest Cody and Ens. Charles Adams, radioed in that they were going to take a closer look at an oil slick. When the ship eventually crashed in Daly City, neither man was aboard. A massive search failed to find any trace of them; they were both declared dead a year later.[95]
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Post by theravenking on Aug 20, 2017 12:14:26 GMT
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Post by mecano04 on Aug 23, 2017 18:56:49 GMT
mecano04 's story reminded me of a few others: 1. The impossible "suicide" of Capt. George M. Colvocoresses in Bridgeport, CT, in 1872. 2. The murder of Carl Gros in Maspeth, NY, in 1891. The bullet penetrated his body but left no holes in his clothing. 3. The disappearance of a 4 ton wrecking ball from a construction site (Dowling Construction Company, Indianapolis, IN) in 1974. 4. The mutilation of a horse called Skippy in 1967; the horse had been mutilated in a muddy field, but without any footprints around him! 5. The impossible suicide/SHC of Glen B. Denney in Algiers, LA, in 1952. A spontaneous human combustion case just as fascinating as Mary Reeser, let me note! 1 - I wonder if I got the right story and the right guy. connecticuthistory.org/murder-on-the-map-the-mysterious-death-of-captain-george-m-colvocoresses/Sure it remains unsolved (hence the mystery) but to me it seems like a "typical" robbery gone wrong or they simply didn't want him alive at all . According to this calculator ( www.in2013dollars.com/1872-dollars-in-2016?amount=8000 ) 8 000$ in 1872 makes 151 707$ today. He was carrying a big fortune around. If it became known that he had that much money on him, it was done. I found this on an obscure site " An Impossible Suicide?- In 1872 Capt. George M. Colvocoresses body was found shot to death on a well-frequented street in Bridgeport, Connecticut. A pistol and a satchel lay besides the body, and the police at first assumed they had a clear case of murder. When they examined the body more closely, however they discovered that no bullet hole was to be found in his jacket or vest, while the hole and powder burn in his shirt indicated that the pistol had been inserted beneath the outer garments before being fired. No one could explain why this might have happened. The next conclusion was that he killed himself. Yet there was also no reasonable explanation of why he would do that, and in such the manner that he died. Besides that there are some difficulties he would have faced while killing himself also. First of all why would he have carefully placed his hand under his own jacket and vest to kill himself? Not to mention the fact it was early in the evening on a street many people frequently walked on (how ever it doesn't mention any witnesses) Also since his autopsy concluded that he died almost instantly because he shot himself in the heart, how did he have enough time to remove his hand out from jacket and vest to place the gun and satchel beside him. It most likely would have been in his hand or nearer to him. Plus if he really did kill himself the question arises of why he would want to do it in such a way."
It's strange but not inexplicable. I mean, his vest/jacket/whatever might have moved if he struggled with the killer or if the killer was at an angle with him. Otherwise the killer could have been just a feet away and held him closely. We don't have a picture of the vest so we don't know how open or closed it is at the front, once buttoned and when it's open.
2- There doesn't seem to be much known or said about this case. Problem is we don't know what clothes he wore at the time and the angle he was shot from. Still, it wouldn't be mysterious and strange if it could be easily explained so we can only assume he was shot from the front (or back) and it was at the upper body. Interesting but really not enough info to take a definitive stance on it.
3- The Reddit thread about it does raise some good question while raising some interesting questions :
"The date is listed as Thursday, July 19th, 1973. All other sources I've seen listed 1974. Was this because the Reader's Digest interviewer got the date wrong? Or maybe the owner of the company misremembered? Just for reference, the publish date on Mysteries of the Unexplained is 1982.
Some details were different though. The owner said the wrecking ball was 5-tons instead of the book's reported 2 1/2 tons. Could someone just goofed on the conversion (2.5 tons is ~ 5,500 pounds)?" The thread link : www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/4awaox/a_heavy_question/Some news paper links: news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2519&dat=19730719&id=Z-RdAAAAIBAJ&sjid=BV8NAAAAIBAJ&pg=3573,3107811&hl=en www.newspapers.com/newspage/106384078/It would be surprising considering the size but not impossible to pull off. I mean, at a place I used to work (it closed, I'm not the culprit), someone found a way to steal a 40'' cathodic TV that hanged at 7' high from the 12' ceiling. It was in a room in the middle of the building with no fire exit nearby and it happened in the middle of the day without anyone noticing something suspicious. You can't hide that in the back pocket of your jeans... 4- It would seem "Lady" is the actual name of the horse but that's just a detail.
This clip gives some info on the story and testimonies:
I don't have any take on this. It goes into the Aliens subject pretty quickly but one thing is sure, that horse met someone or a group that was up to no good (to put it that way).
5- I found the same link that raise questions. I read your post on page 4. At least the state records office confirms the person existed but it doesn't proves much otherwise.
Fate magazine is a real thing ( www.fatemag.com/ ) even if it's not my kind of publication. On the Internet Archives (fascinating site if you like old stuff) I found some 1973 issues of the magazine but not those of 1953 ( archive.org/search.php?query=Fate%20magazine ). There is also the Pulp mags section : (archive.org/details/pulpmagazinearchive?&sort=-downloads&page=2 ) from which you get this kind of stuff (archive.org/details/ScreenlandOct.1923 ) in which they talk about Gloria Swanson ( Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard, 1950). You can also find movies, radio recordings, pictures, scanned books, etc. archive.org/
Back to the subject, I have never believed in spontaneous combustion but similar stories have been reported many times over the years so I'm open to it but not a firm believer.
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Post by mecano04 on Aug 23, 2017 19:21:09 GMT
what do you think happened here? 1942 – On 16 August, U.S. Navy blimp L-8 drifted inland from its route doing antisubmarine patrol off the coast of California near San Francisco several hours after its crew, Lt. Ernest Cody and Ens. Charles Adams, radioed in that they were going to take a closer look at an oil slick. When the ship eventually crashed in Daly City, neither man was aboard. A massive search failed to find any trace of them; they were both declared dead a year later.[95] I read about that story a while ago. It's somewhat similar to the Mary Celeste story ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste ) in the sense that both were found empty with no clear sign of foul play and no apparent reason for the disappearance of the crew/passengers. This article is quite complete : www.historynet.com/mystery-of-the-ghost-blimp.htm and with what is said I come to the same conclusion, that as unlikely as it may seem from an experienced crew, one fell off and the other followed while attempting to maneuver the blimp or while trying to grasp his colleague.
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Post by mecano04 on Aug 23, 2017 19:21:40 GMT
Do you watch the TV show too ?
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Post by Nalkarj on Aug 23, 2017 19:37:32 GMT
mecano04I was just remembering stories from the Readers Digest Mysteries of the Unexplained, so I'm not sure about all the facts of each situation. The horse's name was "Lady"? Interesting! I'd never heard that before. I think it's one interesting story. I've heard conflicting stories about the "suicide," and I too haven't found much information about Gros. Stuff to work on. I'll attempt to look up the Denney story on Ancestry.com. (We get it free through my library.) By the by: do you know how your former co-worker managed to purloin the TV?
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Post by theravenking on Aug 23, 2017 20:34:25 GMT
Do you watch the TV show too ? I didn't know there was a TV show.
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Post by mecano04 on Aug 23, 2017 21:57:42 GMT
mecano04 I was just remembering stories from the Readers Digest Mysteries of the Unexplained, so I'm not sure about all the facts of each situation. The horse's name was "Lady"? Interesting! I'd never heard that before. I think it's one interesting story. I've heard conflicting stories about the "suicide," and I too haven't found much information about Gros. Stuff to work on. I'll attempt to look up the Denney story on Ancestry.com. (We get it free through my library.) By the by: do you know how your former co-worker managed to purloin the TV? I don't know who and it may not even be a coworker. It was an hospital but one build the way they did in the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th century so it wasn't all open areas like they do today. It was halls leading to various sized rooms depending on their usage. There wasn't many wide open rooms but it was one. It was used for activities for the residents. The TV, like the 3 others in the same room, was held by the sides by some well made but still homemade brackets. At 6'3" I had to extend my arms and have my hands way above my head to reach the points where the brackets held the TV. So not only did the person(s) who did this had to climb but then they found a way to make believe it was normal to take the TV out. Back then we had security agents but not many cameras inside. Most, if not all, cameras were around, outside the building and the security guard (who was an employee of the hospital not from an agency) only had a 14-15'' greenish screened TV. So very little security footage, many many people coming in and out daily and a small tv from which you barely see any details. That's how it happened.
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Post by mecano04 on Aug 23, 2017 21:59:29 GMT
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Post by mecano04 on Aug 25, 2017 16:55:02 GMT
Nalkarj, I began reading about the Omar Raddad case and the first thing that came to my mind was the Mystery of the Yellow Room ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mystery_of_the_Yellow_Room ). I never read the book but I saw the 2003 movie www.imdb.com/title/tt0356922/?ref_=ttmi_tt . A french link with a lot of info on the case: www.police-scientifique.com/les-grandes-affaires/Omar-Raddad/Still, the mistake of using the infinitive (Tu er ) instead of the past tense (Tu ée) is no big deal in my book because a ton of french people still have a hard time with it on a daily basis. Heck, even my boss who has a master in administration still struggles with that when he types messages. As a whole, it seems there were too many people saying different things without putting them into perspective and some points got overlooked.
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Post by MCDemuth on Aug 25, 2017 20:07:09 GMT
3. The disappearance of a 4 ton wrecking ball from a construction site (Dowling Construction Company, Indianapolis, IN) in 1974. If this happened a couple of years ago, I would attribute it to thieves looking to make some money off the metal... (As I recall there was a lot of copper theft recently...) Still... 4 Tons? (You would need a crane, to steal it from a crane. LOL!) Interesting list. I'll have to read up on those.
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Post by MCDemuth on Aug 25, 2017 20:49:24 GMT
what do you think happened here? 1942 – On 16 August, U.S. Navy blimp L-8 drifted inland from its route doing antisubmarine patrol off the coast of California near San Francisco several hours after its crew, Lt. Ernest Cody and Ens. Charles Adams, radioed in that they were going to take a closer look at an oil slick. When the ship eventually crashed in Daly City, neither man was aboard. A massive search failed to find any trace of them; they were both declared dead a year later.[95] I heard about this story on Unsolved Mysteries in the 1990s, and have it on the DVD set released in the 2000s. It may be possible a Japanese sub caused the oil slick, and the crew were taken prisoner when they went down to investigate... THE VERY NEXT NIGHT...Steven Spielberg's film - 1941 (1979)... Spoofs both events. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_(film)The origin of the main plot of the movie: Battle: Los Angeles (2011), is based in part, on the extraterrestrial hypothesis involving the "The Great Los Angeles Air Raid" in 1942. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle:_Los_AngelesTHE REST OF WWII...
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Post by MCDemuth on Aug 25, 2017 21:03:01 GMT
I do believe that a kind of "Fort Knox" was intended to be built there to bury something very significant, like the Knight's Templar treasure... There is just to many complex "things" found on and in the waters of the island... and even further away in Canada/North America... for it all just to be about a few buried pirate chests... Even if you take the Money Pit itself out of the mystery, too many other oddities remain... (And yes, if the Egyptians could build pyramids, then the Knight's Templar could turn Oak Island into an early "Fort Knox".) The two big questions are, was anything actually ever buried there, and is it still there... We're not sure, YET... but people keep digging.
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Post by MCDemuth on Aug 25, 2017 21:09:59 GMT
Do you watch the TV show too ? I didn't know there was a TV show. Yes. It is called "The Curse Of Oak Island" The first two seasons have been released on DVD. The last two have not yet been released. It's is not a great reality show, as the owners of the island are poor treasure hunters... and they waste time. Most of what they do, can be told in a one hour yearly special. But the techniques they use, and the history that is presented on the show is fascinating. But don't expect much of anything else, after 4 seasons, all they have found is a few ancient coins, and a few other oddities. NO BIG TREASURE yet. There may not be a Season 5. Those involved in the show, are not really interested in doing more episodes.
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The Dyatlov Pass incident The Kentucky meat shower The Man in the Iron Mask The Mary Celeste The Tunguska event The green children of Woolpit The Voynich Manuscript The Pollock Twins Emilie Sagee, the ubiquitous teacher
In the middle of the XIXth Century, in Livonia (Lettonia), between Riga and Volmar, there is a college for noble young ladies which is called the Pensionnat Neuwelcke. The boarders belong to the greatest Livonian families, and the Director, Mr Buch, flatters himself that he has in his establishment, among others, the second daughter of Baron Guldenstubbe, the charming and very intelligent Julie, aged thirteen.
In 1845, Mr Buch engages a French teacher, Mademoiselle Emilie Sagee. She is a pretty Bourguignonne, born in Dijon, blonde with light eyes and an amiable character. She is thirty-two. Intelligent, cultured, she soon conquers the Director’s estime, her colleagues’ friendship and her pupils’ affection.
Strange rumours, however, run through the pensionnat about the new teacher. In fact, several times, certain pupils have noticed that they disagree on an apparently insignificant detail: the place where they have just met Mlle Sagee. When one says that she has seen her in one part of the establishment, it is frequent that another assures having met her elsewhere at the same moment.
At first, the pupils believe that they are mistaken. But as it continues to occur, they finish by finding the thing very strange. To the point that they decide to speak about it to the other mistresses.
One morning, a delegation goes to find the Arithmetic teacher and tells her that they are sure that Mlle Sagee is a strange person, because she is sometimes in two different places at the same time…
The teacher bursts out laughing, shrugs her shoulders and declares that she has never heard anything quite so stupid, that these young ladies are really too imaginative and that they are making it all up… After which, she sends the girls back to their studies…
But the anomalies in the French teacher’s comportment soon take on a character which excludes all possibility of error or fantasy.
One day when Mlle Sagee is giving a lesson to thirteen of her pupils, and is writing a sentence on the blackboard, the girls are suddenly very frightened to see two Mademoiselle Sagees one beside the other.
Riveted to their benches, they notice with growing stupor that, while the two people who are writing at the blackboard look exactly alike and are making the same gestures, only the real Emilie Sagee, a piece of chalk in her hand, is effectively writing. Her double, with empty hand, is only imitating the movements that she is making while tracing the words.
This story is immediately spread, and causes a sensation among the other boarders. The Director, informed of a strange incident which is supposed to have occurred during a French lesson, interrogates Mlle Sagee’s pupils. But even though all of them, without exception, affirm having seen the second form and are perfectly in agreement on the description that they make of the phenomenon, Mr Buch, too, shrugs his shoulders… He tells them that their story is foolish, that they were dreaming… Perhaps they had been a bit tired at that particular moment. There, there, we’ll say no more about it!
The pupils leave his study very disappointed about not succeeding in convincing him, for they are sure of their facts: they really saw Mlle Sagee divide into two.
A little while later, a second incident comes to trouble the pensionnat. It unfolds in a bedroom where a pupil, Antoinette de Vrangel, is dressing to go with a few friends to a local festival. Mlle Sagee has come to help her, and is hooking up the back of her dress. Suddenly, the young girl looks over her shoulder and sees two Emilie Sagees taking care of her. She is so frightened that she faints.
This time, Mr Buch is worried. He asks hinself if his boarders have not all gone mad. He makes enquiries and learns with fearful astonishment that the pensionnat‘s domestics, too, have seen the French teacher split into two. These peasant women explain to him that, from time to time, in the refectory, they see Mlle Sagee’s double standing behind her chair, while she is eating. This double, they say, imitates all of her movements, but “without knife or fork, or food in its hands”…
Mr Buch is very troubled. He becomes even more so a few days later when some teachers come to tell him, horrified, that they now believe in the ubiquity for they, too, have seen Mlle Sagee divide into two before their eyes…
And the phenomena continue.
The witnesses then notice that there can also be variations. In certain cases, the double doesn’t imitate the movements of the real person. It has a sort of existence of its own. For example, it is seen to remain seated when Mlle Sagee rises. Sometimes, the double’s independence is even clearer. One evening, the French teacher is in bed with a heavy cold. Antoinette de Vrangel has come to read to her to relieve her boredom. Suddenly, she sees her pale and stiffen as if she is about to faint. Frightened, she asks the teacher if she is feeling worse. Mlle Sagee weakly denies it.
A few minutes later, the boarder happens to look over her shoulder and distinctly sees the patient’s double walking back and forth in the room…
But here is the most remarkable case of the apparently independent activity of Mlle Sagee’s two forms. One day, the pupils of the pensionnat, all forty-two of them, are gathered in the sewing room. It is a big room on the ground floor with four windows opening onto the garden.
The boarders are all seated around a long table and, through the open windows, they can see Mlle Sagee who is picking flowers along a garden path.
At the end of the table, a supervisor is sitting in a green leather armchair. At one moment, this lady leaves. However, her armchair does not remain empty very long for the young girls suddenly see Mlle Sagee’s form appear in it. They immediately turn their gazes toward the garden and see their French teacher still busy picking her bouquet; but her movements seem to be slower and heavier than a while ago, like those of someone who is very tired.
They turn their eyes to the armchair again. The double is there, silent, motionless, but with such an appearance of reality that, if they hadn’t just seen Mlle Sagee in the garden, they could think that she is there in person.
However, they all know that it is the double, and they are now so used to this strange phenomenon that two of them rise, approach the armchair and, trembling a little, touch the apparition.
The whole class watches them, frightened, and Mlle de Vrangel asks them what it feels like. They answer that it feels like a piece of muslin or crepe material.
And, now feeling very audacious, one of them dares to pass right up against the armchair, thereby traversing part of the form. When she returns to her place, she is livid…
The double then gradually disappears and the pupils notice that Mlle Sagee, in the garden, is now gathering her flowers with her usual vivacity.
These phenomena last for months, to Mr Buch’s despair. He fears that this strange comportment might damage his establishment’s reputation.
His fears are justified. Many parents, informed of what is happening, remove their children. After eighteen months, there are only twelve pupils left out of forty-two. Mr Buch is then obliged to fire his French teacher – for ubiquity…
The story of Emilie Sagee is known to us through the people who saw her. Mr Buch’s pensionnat received only young ladies of the nobility. Having become elderly ladies, some of them wrote their souvenirs, as was often done at the time, in this society. And one of them, Baroness de Guldenstubbe, the little Julie that Mr Buch was so proud of having in his establishment, wrote so many things about Emilie Sagee in her souvenirs, that the English writer and philosopher, Robert Dale Owen, wanted to meet her. The Baroness furnished many details to the writer about the duality of the French teacher. Details that he reported in one of his books which bears the very beautiful title Sounds of Footsteps at the Frontiers of Another Life [Bruits de pas sur les frontieres d’une autre vie].
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Collective hallucination has been mentioned. However, before entering Mr Buch’s establishment, Mlle Sagee, who had started teaching at the age of sixteen, had passed through eighteen colleges… eighteen colleges from which she had been fired because of her phenomena of bilocation… It appears difficult to admit that the pupils, teachers and directors of eighteen establishments had suffered the same hallucinatory influence about the same person…
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Mlle Sagee wrote nothing about her own case. For the simple reason that she had nothing to say; for at the moment of her divisions, she felt nothing. She was absolutely unconscious of what was happening and – she has often repeated this – she only knew about the phenomenon because of the expression on the faces of the people who were there… It was by seeing their frightened faces, their eyes staring at something invisible which seemed to be moving near her, that she understood… But she had never, herself, seen her double; neither had she noticed the stiffness and slowing down of her movements when her double appeared…
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It was noted that the phenomenon took place when Mlle Sagee was very worried or very immersed in her work. The double could also manifest itself in a place about which she was thinking. For example, she has recounted that, on the day when she was picking flowers in the garden, glancing at the sewing room, she had seen the empty armchair and was saying to herself:
“The supervisor has gone, I’m sure that the young ladies will take advantage of it to gossip and waste time…”
And, as a teacher worried about discipline, she had thought:
“Ah! If only I were there!”
And she was…
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It is difficult to know whether or not Emilie Sagee’s double appeared far away from the pensionnat. It could have, without being noticed. At Neuwelcke, the pupils sometimes saw the double in the college itself, while Mlle Sagee – as everyone knew – had gone for a walk in the forest or in the neighbouring village…
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There are other striking examples of ubiquity. Among others, the case of Padre Pio, the Italian monk who died in 1968 and whose phenomena of bilocation were noted by hundreds of people, notably journalists… But there are many, many others…
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Parapsychological magazines periodically cite cases of bilocation. And numerous researchers, among them Doctor Richet, Doctor Osty, Doctor Goodrich and above all Doctor William Barnard Johnson, who created at Reno in the United States of America, an Institute for the study of these phenomena, have published extremely troubling reports. According to these documents, it seems that, most of the time, the double is only seen by other people; but sometimes, it can also be seen by the subject himself (autoscopy).
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It is, in fact, a sort of “phantom of a living person”. But parapsychologists, who detest using the word “phantom”, and don’t like the word “ubiquity” because it belongs to theological vocabulary, give these phenomena the name of “bilocation” or “bicorporeity”.
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For the moment, these wise parapsychologists emit no hypothesis to explain the facts. They prudently content themselves with stating their existence with as much rigour as possible. And they have already been able to obtain a few certitudes mentioned by Danielle Hemmert and Alex Roudene in their work L’Univers des fantomes.
“The positive attitude of the facts permit today to establish that the existence of the human phantom (of a living person) is objectively noted by concording witness reports, by photographs of the double accidentally obtained; by the influence that this apparition produces simultaneously on humans and on animals; by the effects exercised by the double on matter.”
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We are therefore able to conclude that we are in the presence of a double acting, at certain moments and for inexplicable reasons, outside its physical envelope.
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Most parapsychologists who have studied the problem think that this double is totally distinct from the soul and that it draws its substantiality from the body of which it is an emanation. In short, as surprising and as mysterious as it might be in the present state of our knowledge, this phenomenon is probably quite natural…
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After having left Mr Buch’s pensionnat, Mlle Sagee retired to the home of her sister-in-law, the mother of several children who very quickly grew used to the phenomenon to which the young woman was subjected. They said:
“We have two Aunt Emilies!”…
For children accept all miracles…
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Post by MCDemuth on Aug 26, 2017 0:09:47 GMT
The most likely theory concerning the Mary Celeste is that... While she went through a storm at sea, some of her cargo, which were barrels of alcohol, broke open, and filled the hold with dangerous fumes... Days later when the storm had passed, they cargo hold was open, and discovered what had happened. Fearing an explosion, they left the hold open to vent... they quickly took down some sails but not all, and they tied a rope from the Mary Celeste to a (lifeboat or longboat) and got in and was pulled behind the Mary Celeste. A gust of wind came up, and snapped the tow line, and the Mary Celeste sailed on. The boat was left behind, and vanished from history... Some, but not all, sails were still deployed... The boat was missing... the hatch was open... broken barrels were found.. and there was a rope trailing off the back of the ship... Some people believe that a (highly unstable meteor or alien probe) exploded in the air before impact. (Scientists have performed laboratory aerial explosion tests, which resulted in the same destruction pattern, have confirmed this possibility). Ancient Alien Theorists, claim, that there is an ancient alien defense system, called "Cauldrons", in the " Valley of Death", Yakutian, Siberia... which is nearby... that may have destroyed the object before impact. www.realufos.net/2011/10/close-look-at-valley-of-death-yakutian.html
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Post by Nalkarj on Aug 26, 2017 0:22:41 GMT
Feologild Oakes , MCDemuth , hi224 , mecano04 , theravenking , JHA Durant, wanton87, et al. I knew most of the cases Feologild referenced, but I hadn't heard of the Kentucky meat shower (though apparently Fort referred to it in The Book of the Damned) or even poor Émilie Sagée. I'm interested in the latter case both because of my general interest in the doppelgänger phenomenon and because I recently read one of Helen McCloy's best novels, Through a Glass, Darkly ('50). The McCloy novel is remarkably similar to the Sagée story; I believe (I don't have the book in front of me) that McCloy references the story, but the similarity is so unbelievably close. McCloy develops a rational solution to the doppelgänger problem, but we are left wondering, à la Carr's The Burning Court, if the rational solution is actually true.
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