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Post by hi224 on Aug 30, 2017 0:08:54 GMT
Several of the best, which I naturally forgot: The Julia Wallace Case(I will note, however, that the late Jonathan Goodman's book on the subject is a rollicking good read, and Mr. Goodman may well have deduced the murderer's identity.) Günther Stoll and YOGTZE(As insoluble a mystery as any book, though the state of Mr. Stoll's mental health may point to a disappointing solution.) Louis Le Prince and his impossible disappearance from a moving train(One of the great mysteries of history, so much so that I'm surprised more books are not written on the subject. A classic "impossible crime," one to which I'd love to know an answer.) The Hinterkaifeck Murders(I see that hi224 has just started a thread on this, so I'll let him take it away, but--gruesome, terrible, and inexplicable.) Oh, and has the SS Ourang-Medan story been debunked? what's especially strange is the father noticed the tracks in the snow and the keys missing, was it a setup gone awry?.
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Shepherd’s Monument Inscription Who was DB Cooper ? Mackenzie Poltergeist in Greyfriars
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 1, 2017 18:37:58 GMT
mecano04 Thanks for the quotations from the Livet interview--a lot of information there that I never knew. The investigation seems terribly botched. That's true--and usually the excuse I use to justify dying clues in detective-stories I write--but, if I'm remembering correctly, the person who wrote the dying message wrote it twice ("Omar m'a" and "Omar m'a tuer")--both times with apostrophes for "m'a," written remarkably clearly. It seems incredible that the dying woman apparently the time to insert a proper apostrophe both times (a remarkably rational decision)--while, of course, misspelling tuée. It would be extraordinary if a dying person could be rational enough to put that apostrophe in twice. I don't know, the whole thing just seems so pat and neat to me, as if--again--someone truly wanted to incriminate Raddad by emphasizing the "killed me" part, but forgetting that, as you say, not "...every decision made by a dying person is rational from an effectiveness standpoint." I have no idea if Raddad is guilty or not; the case just seems so unrealistic that, perhaps, that one major element was in fact faked...
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Post by mecano04 on Sept 1, 2017 22:05:04 GMT
Nalkarj , oh, we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Yes it was written twice, completely the first time and partially the second, but there is a major difference. If you read opinion articles in newspapers or even just school papers in french you'll see the " ER / É " mistake, that's a guarantee. It's easy to avoid making it but somehow it's still an issue for many. You may already know the "trick" to know which one it is but here we go. Basically, you replace the verb with another (mentally, no need to cross it out) and you try to see which tense fits better, either the infinitive or the past. For example, the judge might say: "Je vais condamn(er/é) Omar à la prison à vie." The verb is condamner(condemn) but you replace it with Voir (See)at both tense voir (see) and vu (saw) and the one that makes more sense is the one that is right, so you get the right tense. So your options would be " Je vais voir Omar à la prison à vie" (I will see Omar ...) or "Je vais vu Omar à la prison à vie" (I will saw Omar...). Say it loud or even think about it and in this case the past tense doesn't make sense at all. My example might not be perfect but that's the trick. That's for the mistake we already talked about. Now, for the apostrophe, that's a stretch and a big one. The difference in using "m'a" (contraction or me and have) instead of "ma" (my, feminine gender) is similar to the difference between speaking fluently a second language and not even being functional. Using "ma" would have screamed, and it would have been heard across Europe, that the person who wrote that didn't have french for native language or didn't master it enough to make grammatically correct sentences. In that case, Raddad would probably have been set free on the spot. I don't even know who makes that mistake beside kids in elementary school or people who just begin learning french as a second language. The reason is "ER/É" is a conjugation mistake (which I'm sure can be found in many documents, in many languages, in my places across the globe) but the "M'a/ma" thing is mistaking the combination of a pronoun+verb with a possessive adjective. That's a whole different kind of mistake. Here is a french link with examples: ( www.francaisfacile.com/exercices/exercice-francais-2/exercice-francais-8688.php ) The type of mistake I see a lot is mixing up "Ma" & "Mon". That's the sign french isn't your native language. Because in English, for example, nouns may have grammatical gender but depending on how you structure your sentence it may not show. For example, "My car is blue." doesn't give any clue whether Car is a masculine or feminine word and that's if it even have a gender. In french, "Voiture" is feminine so you would say " Ma voiture est bleue". Now, people who learn the language can say " Mon (masculine) voiture est bleu(e)". That's the kind of thing you see and hear a lot. But "Ma" instead of "M'a"? For effectiveness, sure skipping one element may save you some time but the apostrophe should be automatic if you know what you're saying. That would be like saying putting the first letter of each sentence you write is a rational thought instead of an automatism. I'm not angry, disappointed or anything but that's just no. The ER/É is debatable but that apostrophe is too much of a stretch. P.S. About your writing, are you a published author or just for your pleasure?
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Post by hi224 on Sept 1, 2017 22:10:38 GMT
Michael Nigg, 26, an aspiring actor and waiter at a Los Angeles restaurant, was shot and killed during an attempted robbery on 8 September 1995 while withdrawing money from an ATM.[126] Three suspects were arrested a month later but released for lack of evidence and the case remains unsolved. Since Nigg was a friend of Ronald Goldman, with whom he had worked, and seemed to live quite well for someone in his position, leading to some reports that he was involved in drug trafficking, his death has been used to support theories that the murders of Goldman and O.J. Simpson's ex-wife Nicole the year before were drug-related as well.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 1, 2017 23:08:05 GMT
mecano04 Being that French is not my first language, I'll bow to your knowledge here, but I think I might have not been clear originally. I didn't mean that it would have made more sense for the woman to write "ma" instead "m'a." The difference is, as you say, substantial. What I found remarkable is that she didn't write, say, something like "m a." The whole idea of taking the energy to put in a proper apostrophe while one is dying strikes me as a remarkably rational decision, one that seems inconsistent with the irrational decisions the writer also made, especially as regards the whole sentence (as you noted). I hope that clarifies what I was trying to say a bit more. I've seen French people scribble off notes quickly; they were careful not to confuse "ma" with "m'a," as you note, but--when writing very quickly--neglected the apostrophe in "m'a," writing "m a" instead. Either way, it seems to me, there was definite care taken with placing the apostrophe there, something that--once again--seems inconsistent with a hastily-written note meant to incriminate one's killer. As for my writings--well, not published, not yet. I'm hoping that they'll be published some day, but for the time being I'm just writing them on the side. I've posted a few here, in the "Riddles" thread, if you're interested: " Thirteen at Dinner," " Ruby Red," " Color Scheme," " The Unhinged Man," and " Into Thin Air."
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Post by mecano04 on Sept 1, 2017 23:51:08 GMT
mecano04 Being that French is not my first language, I'll bow to your knowledge here, but I think I might have not been clear originally. I didn't mean that it would have made more sense for the woman to write "ma" instead "m'a." The difference is, as you say, substantial. What I found remarkable is that she didn't write, say, something like "m a." The whole idea of taking the energy to put in a proper apostrophe while one is dying strikes me as a remarkably rational decision, one that seems inconsistent with the irrational decisions the writer also made, especially as regards the whole sentence (as you noted). I hope that clarifies what I was trying to say a bit more. I've seen French people scribble off notes quickly; they were careful not to confuse "ma" with "m'a," as you note, but--when writing very quickly--neglected the apostrophe in "m'a," writing "m a" instead. Either way, it seems to me, there was definite care taken with placing the apostrophe there, something that--once again--seems inconsistent with a hastily-written note meant to incriminate one's killer. As for my writings--well, not published, not yet. I'm hoping that they'll be published some day, but for the time being I'm just writing them on the side. I've posted a few here, in the "Riddles" thread, if you're interested: " Thirteen at Dinner," " Ruby Red," " Color Scheme," " The Unhinged Man," and " Into Thin Air." It wasn't meant as a pissing contest, just as a clarification on something that seems like quite a stretch. Not sure if it was on the Wiki or another newspaper site but they said that they found traces of 2 different DNAs in the writings. They couldn't differentiate the 2 but the bottom line is, the victim didn't write it. Then, was it Raddad trying to fake someone else accusing him to throw the cops off or was it really someone else trying to have him take the fall? The next thing is the wine cellar. Could somebody get in the basement from it. The fact that nobody can describe that room leaves it open to speculation, both ways. The possibility that another access exists kinda make the attempt to block the door a bit desperate if not useless in the end. If there is no other access, then it's a bit like the Yellow chamber, despite the fact the cops found ways to block it with the items and from the outside. I think we pretty much got around the case. Here is another : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Gr%C3%A9gory_Villemin and part of the craziness around it: ( www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40580530) & ( www.reuters.com/article/us-france-murder-judge/ex-judge-in-french-child-murder-case-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide-idUSKBN19X13Z). I'll look into those stories of yours.
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Post by hi224 on Sept 2, 2017 0:36:55 GMT
Mark Moran, 35, of Australia's Moran crime family, was shot and killed outside his Aberfeldie home on the evening of 15 June 2000, another of the many still-unsolved Melbourne gangland killings. Carl Williams, who was beaten to death by a fellow prison inmate a decade later, is the prime suspect.
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Post by mecano04 on Sept 2, 2017 2:40:33 GMT
Nalkarj, I like your style, somewhat like Christie. I've played fair and haven't looked at the solutions proposed or given by the others and I'll try to solve those I haven't yet but here is what I got on each: Thirteen at dinner- Theodore Smith. - I might be wrong with the logic but here it goes. Excluding George Johnson (for now), there are 6 backgrounds/jobs listed, Actors, Bankers, Businessmen, Doctors, Lawyers & Politicians. 2 names are listed for each category. So here is how the table fills up (so far): Actors | Bankers | Businessmen | Doctors | Lawyers | Politicians | Laurence Marsden | Walter Davis | Leo Oscar | - | - | Ken Flaherty | Hal Quincy | Pete Jeffers | Theodore Smith | - | Ted Alton | Bruce Nalley |
Now, we know that George Johnson is a writer, so he doesn't fit in any of those categories. That leaves us with 3 names, Milton Jackson, Jonathan Adams and Fred Miller. From the holes, we know the Docs have been cleaned and one Lawyer is out. This is my take on it and where I may be wrong. Doctors have been cleared and 1 Lawyer is left alive. It seems like the killings follow the alphabet but it started at D instead of A so it's gonna end on C(but B since there is no category with starting with C). If the logic indeed follows the alphabet, then the names should be in alphabetical order (I ordered them in the table above). From that logic, the only person that Ted Alton can "beat" Jonathan Adams, so Adams was Lawyers #1. From there, Milton Jackson was Doctor #1 and Fred Miller #2. The Table is now complete: Actors | Bankers | Businessmen | Doctors | Lawyers | Politicians | Laurence Marsden | Walter Davis | Leo Oscar | Milton Jackson | Jonathan Adams | Ken Flaherty | Hal Quincy | Pete Jeffers | Theodore Smith | Fred Miller | Ted Alton | Bruce Nalley |
If Alton is indeed next, then Smith will be the last man alive. - Johnson meant that he was the odd man out, he wasn't part of the pattern or any category. It may be wrong but at least It's the only way I could see the alphabetical order, from jobs/occupations to names. Ruby Red- Fred Mayne
- Because the victim, a jeweler and rare gem expert grabbed a gem, a ruby to be specific, as his last action.
- Each month of the year is associated with a precious gem. I knew that and that April is diamond (my month of birth) before even reading your story but I didn't knew by hearth which month was associated with the Ruby. So, google + a cross reference between ruby and the birth months listed gave me the name, Mayne. To really answer the question, the victim grabbed the precious gem (Ruby) corresponding to the birth month of the killer. Color SchemeIt's getting late, I get the basis but I'll go with a hunch. One thing I know is it has to do with the color spectrum, from primary to tertiary but also with the Color prism: Pythagoras is for a triangle, hence the prism or it's for Primary, Smith for Secondary and Travers for Tertiary: SO I got the Pythagoras, Smith and Travers out. Olivia is from Olive, which is green, so she's out and it's a secondary color. So Roy and Quentin are left. Roy does share the R with Red, which is a primary color so that leaves Quentin as the odd man out and the killer. Not bulletproof but a hunch. So to answer the questions: - Quentin - He's the only name that you can't (easily at least) link to a color or the spectrum or the prism. - The man(victim) and the connection, through the spectrum or prism to all his friends (by the colors), leaving the killer out. The Unhinged Man (Not sure) Each family name is a bird, Cardinal, Swann, Crane, Crowley & Ravenwood.
I get that the solution is a derivation or a meaning given to a derivation of one of those. It may also be an expression but from the top of my mind the only one I can think of the saying something is Cardinal as in important so I'll go with him.
To answer the questions:
- William Cardinal - Cardinal as the adjective, not the noun. - Since Cardinal means important, William Cardinal was the important person or key person? - He had a hunch? My weakest solution so far, if it is correct but I don't expect it to be. Into Thin Air- The only place they haven't searched is the victim. He put the earrings on her ears so no one will notice. He was hoping to get them later from the corpse, at the funeral or something. Michelle is probably the name of his mother who will inherit them anyway since he shot his aunt and he's dead.
A strecth but the best I can come up with.
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Post by hi224 on Sept 2, 2017 5:50:29 GMT
mecano04 Being that French is not my first language, I'll bow to your knowledge here, but I think I might have not been clear originally. I didn't mean that it would have made more sense for the woman to write "ma" instead "m'a." The difference is, as you say, substantial. What I found remarkable is that she didn't write, say, something like "m a." The whole idea of taking the energy to put in a proper apostrophe while one is dying strikes me as a remarkably rational decision, one that seems inconsistent with the irrational decisions the writer also made, especially as regards the whole sentence (as you noted). I hope that clarifies what I was trying to say a bit more. I've seen French people scribble off notes quickly; they were careful not to confuse "ma" with "m'a," as you note, but--when writing very quickly--neglected the apostrophe in "m'a," writing "m a" instead. Either way, it seems to me, there was definite care taken with placing the apostrophe there, something that--once again--seems inconsistent with a hastily-written note meant to incriminate one's killer. As for my writings--well, not published, not yet. I'm hoping that they'll be published some day, but for the time being I'm just writing them on the side. I've posted a few here, in the "Riddles" thread, if you're interested: " Thirteen at Dinner," " Ruby Red," " Color Scheme," " The Unhinged Man," and " Into Thin Air." It wasn't meant as a pissing contest, just as a clarification on something that seems like quite a stretch. Not sure if it was on the Wiki or another newspaper site but they said that they found traces of 2 different DNAs in the writings. They couldn't differentiate the 2 but the bottom line is, the victim didn't write it. Then, was it Raddad trying to fake someone else accusing him to throw the cops off or was it really someone else trying to have him take the fall? The next thing is the wine cellar. Could somebody get in the basement from it. The fact that nobody can describe that room leaves it open to speculation, both ways. The possibility that another access exists kinda make the attempt to block the door a bit desperate if not useless in the end. If there is no other access, then it's a bit like the Yellow chamber, despite the fact the cops found ways to block it with the items and from the outside. I think we pretty much got around the case. Here is another : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Gr%C3%A9gory_Villemin and part of the craziness around it: ( www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40580530) & ( www.reuters.com/article/us-france-murder-judge/ex-judge-in-french-child-murder-case-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide-idUSKBN19X13Z). I'll look into those stories of yours. You and Sal are turning into my favorite posters lol.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 21:19:06 GMT
What are the true idendty of these 3 people Now according to a man named Dr. Frank E. Stranges. He have said that they are 3 aliens from the planet of Venus named Valiant Thor, Donn and Jill. And they where at the pentagong in the late 1950s. But the question is who where they really ? and is it possible that they are or was aliens from Venus who visited Pentagon back in the late 1950s? This is a bit more of the story Stranger at the Pentagon: The story of Valiant Thor
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Post by mecano04 on Sept 2, 2017 23:57:53 GMT
What are the true idendty of these 3 people Now according to a man named Dr. Frank E. Stranges. He have said that they are 3 aliens from the planet of Venus named Valiant Thor, Donn and Jill. And they where at the pentagong in the late 1950s. But the question is who where they really ? and is it possible that they are or was aliens from Venus who visited Pentagon back in the late 1950s? This is a bit more of the story Stranger at the Pentagon: The story of Valiant ThorHere is a bit more (https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bb/stranges.htm) but as of right now I can't find a direct link to the book, online.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 4, 2017 20:14:41 GMT
hi224Thank you for the kind words--much appreciated, though (in my case) not deserved! mecano04As for the emboldened part: oy! Apologies about that--all my Holmesian-Queenian reasoning falls to the wayside, then. I didn't see they had already proved the victim didn't write it. Real life tends not to follow the lines of locked-room mysteries, of course, but once or twice they do happen. It seems inexplicable to me that no one can describe that room accurately. As I've written before, the investigation seems terribly botched. Thanks for the far-too-kind words about the stories--they're just silly efforts by someone who's fond of the genre. You didn't have to read all of them at once--or, indeed, any of them at all!--so the fact that you spent so much time on them is greatly, greatly appreciated. "Thirteen at Dinner" You reasoning is über-ingenious, but the solution is much simpler, and Smith is not the killer. You are correct, however, that there's a pattern to the surnames.
"Ruby Red" That is indeed the false solution; there is another layer of reasoning here, on top of the birthstone-business. "Color Scheme" Yes, you have the premise correct, but--again--the actual pattern is simpler. I'd suggest taking another look at the picture you posted of the prism.
"The Unhinged Man" Again, that's the false solution: cardinal is derived from the Latin cardinalis, meaning hinge. However--here's a major hint--we must remember that we're looking for the unhinged man, not the hinged one...
"Into Thin Air" I hadn't actually thought of this solution--very clever, too--but I should point out that the police checked everyone around Gregg, and no one in his immediate family or circle of friends was named Michelle.
Thanks again!
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Post by mecano04 on Sept 4, 2017 22:13:55 GMT
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Post by mecano04 on Sept 6, 2017 14:50:30 GMT
Nalkarj , time for take 2: Tirtheen at dinner: Flaherty ?
I'm not good with patterns but he has the longest surname with 8 letters, tied for most vowels with 3 and ends with Y which is the last letter from the names listed.
I tried a few things but I can't come up wit ha real pattern.
I tried to count the number of letter of each last name and Flaherty is the only one with 8, other than him you got 5 with 5, 3 with 6 and 4 with 7.
Ruby RedI honestly thought I had that one locked, damn. So, Tallder. Because it is said it was grasped with rigor mortis, which only sets in after death, so the gem might have been placed in his hand to point towards someone else. Tallder, as a gemologist must know about birthstone, he benefits from the will and probably the business since he was the top employee. He's the only one beside the victim, who knows/knew about gems, so that gave him a way to accuse someone else. So he had the motive (will), knowledge (birth months and birthstones)and the keys to the shop. If it's not him, then I failed , again Color schemeThrowing the towel on that one.
No matter how I look at it, I can't find another solution.
It's my turn to bow down to superior intellect and knowledge. The Unhinged Man Beside "Birds of a feather, flock together" (which is "Qui se ressemble s'assemble", in french), I don't know any saying in English that are related to birds.
Raven is often used to describe black or a dark color so it's not it.
I'll channel my inner Batman and go for the double with Crane as Scarecrow! Into Thin AirWhat led me to that conclusion was that part: " She murmured, “Geoff?—Geoff!”“Hm?” He was muttering to himself. “If Colonel DeLay found that monocle under the dead man’s body, it could only indicate… " That the victim's body might have "hidden" them. Well, I'm not sure what to get out of Michou ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michou, first one) then. Another towel on the ring.
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Post by hi224 on Sept 6, 2017 23:53:17 GMT
hi224 Thank you for the kind words--much appreciated, though (in my case) not deserved! mecano04 As for the emboldened part: oy! Apologies about that--all my Holmesian-Queenian reasoning falls to the wayside, then. I didn't see they had already proved the victim didn't write it. Real life tends not to follow the lines of locked-room mysteries, of course, but once or twice they do happen. It seems inexplicable to me that no one can describe that room accurately. As I've written before, the investigation seems terribly botched. Thanks for the far-too-kind words about the stories--they're just silly efforts by someone who's fond of the genre. You didn't have to read all of them at once--or, indeed, any of them at all!--so the fact that you spent so much time on them is greatly, greatly appreciated. "Thirteen at Dinner" You reasoning is über-ingenious, but the solution is much simpler, and Smith is not the killer. You are correct, however, that there's a pattern to the surnames.
"Ruby Red" That is indeed the false solution; there is another layer of reasoning here, on top of the birthstone-business. "Color Scheme" Yes, you have the premise correct, but--again--the actual pattern is simpler. I'd suggest taking another look at the picture you posted of the prism.
"The Unhinged Man" Again, that's the false solution: cardinal is derived from the Latin cardinalis, meaning hinge. However--here's a major hint--we must remember that we're looking for the unhinged man, not the hinged one...
"Into Thin Air" I hadn't actually thought of this solution--very clever, too--but I should point out that the police checked everyone around Gregg, and no one in his immediate family or circle of friends was named Michelle.
Thanks again! so Lars Mittank was it a reaction to medicine?.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 8, 2017 15:56:39 GMT
Nalkarj , time for take 2: Tirtheen at dinner: Flaherty ?
I'm not good with patterns but he has the longest surname with 8 letters, tied for most vowels with 3 and ends with Y which is the last letter from the names listed.
I tried a few things but I can't come up wit ha real pattern.
I tried to count the number of letter of each last name and Flaherty is the only one with 8, other than him you got 5 with 5, 3 with 6 and 4 with 7.
Ruby RedI honestly thought I had that one locked, damn. So, Tallder. Because it is said it was grasped with rigor mortis, which only sets in after death, so the gem might have been placed in his hand to point towards someone else. Tallder, as a gemologist must know about birthstone, he benefits from the will and probably the business since he was the top employee. He's the only one beside the victim, who knows/knew about gems, so that gave him a way to accuse someone else. So he had the motive (will), knowledge (birth months and birthstones)and the keys to the shop. If it's not him, then I failed , again Color schemeThrowing the towel on that one.
No matter how I look at it, I can't find another solution.
It's my turn to bow down to superior intellect and knowledge. The Unhinged Man Beside "Birds of a feather, flock together" (which is "Qui se ressemble s'assemble", in french), I don't know any saying in English that are related to birds.
Raven is often used to describe black or a dark color so it's not it.
I'll channel my inner Batman and go for the double with Crane as Scarecrow! Into Thin AirWhat led me to that conclusion was that part: " She murmured, “Geoff?—Geoff!”“Hm?” He was muttering to himself. “If Colonel DeLay found that monocle under the dead man’s body, it could only indicate… " That the victim's body might have "hidden" them. Well, I'm not sure what to get out of Michou ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michou, first one) then. Another towel on the ring. Correct on "Ruby Red"! I liked the idea of "double solutions" in that one, the second building on the first. I can link to the solutions to "Thirteen at Dinner" and "Color Scheme" if you'd like, but I will let you know that the pattern in the first applies in both English and French, now that I think of it. As for the second... Well, I don't know if this particular thing--apologies for the vagueness, but I don't know how else to say it--is used as a mnemonic device in Canada, though I know it is in the U.S. and Britain. It is particularly Anglophone. I can link to the solution to "The Unhinged Man" here, if you'd like it. The business with Col. DeLay and the monocle isn't connected to the mystery--in-series, Geoff is a detective-story writer, and Col. DeLay is his sleuth-character (yes--a detective story within a detective story!). Solution: jervistetch deduced the correct answer here.
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Post by hi224 on Sept 8, 2017 19:49:36 GMT
i presume murdered, but he also was a bit aloof as well.
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Post by hi224 on Sept 8, 2017 19:51:51 GMT
Thomas Edison was an asshole by the way regarding the whole Prince situation.
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