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Post by mecano04 on Dec 24, 2017 22:43:16 GMT
In all seriousness, the F-16 could still explain it. I know from first hand experience that rules and laws aren't always followed. Yeah, I suppose it was possible that an F-16 was flying just a few feet above the rooftops... after all, if Santa Claus can fly his sleigh along the roof tops, the all mighty US Air Force can too... It very disturbing that people don't understand that most rules are not to be broken... Especially when people think there is nothing wrong with breaking the rules of "Aerodynamics 101"... On Friday, 24 June 1994, at Fairchild Air Force Base, Washington, USA... A Boeing B-52 Stratofortress pilot, decided to break the rules of "Aerodynamics 101", and tried to make a tight turn by banking his BOMBER to a 90 Degree angle... Here's what happened: B in B-52 stands for Bomber.. NOT fighter... and as we saw, there is a reason for that... All of the lift provided for by the level wings that kept the plane in the air, was completely eliminated by turning the plane on it's side... And The plane crashed just as the designers would have expected. DUH! Sadly, the entire crew was killed. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Fairchild_Air_Force_Base_B-52_crashMost rules exist for one very good reason or another. That's why you shouldn't break them. But, If true, I guess we'll never hear an admission from that F-16 pilot, that he was really doing something stupid. That accident is well known but still a good example of the consequences of not following the procedure & rules. Anyway, here is the FAA rules as for altitude in general: It's for civil, but considering the engine noise, it shouldn't be much different for military aircrafts in training near civilization. Somehow, up here in Canada it's 1000 feet for congested areas otherwise it's also 500 feet.
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Post by MCDemuth on Dec 25, 2017 1:22:13 GMT
"Coral Castle" How did Edward Leedskalnin build "Coral Castle" in Leisure City, Florida... All by himself... Without using modern contruction machinery? His structure comprises of numerous megalithic stones, mostly limestone formed from coral, each weighing several tons. Edward spent more than 28 years building Coral Castle, refusing to allow anyone to view him while he worked. Apparently he claimed he " knew the secret of how the Ancient Egyptians built the Pyramids" & wrote in his journals that he " discovered the ancient secret of transforming stones into weightless objects". " Coral Castle is noted for legends surrounding its creation that claim it was built single-handedly by Leedskalnin using reverse magnetism or supernatural abilities to move and carve numerous stones weighing many tons." " A few teenagers claimed to have witnessed his work, reporting that he had caused the blocks of coral to move like hydrogen balloons. The only tool that Leedskalnin spoke of using was a "perpetual motion holder"". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_Castle
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Post by MCDemuth on Jan 7, 2018 1:35:22 GMT
Did a man named "G.E. Kincaid" find Egyptian relics & mummies, as well, as a carved marble statue of Buddha inside a mysterious huge man-made cave inside the "Grand Canyon" in 1909?
At the time, disclosing a find to the world, noting that Egyptians once lived in the southwestern United States, would have severely contradicted what we were taught to believe about our ancient history... Even today, new findings from around the world, which 'could' support the Grand Canyon find, are being met with heavy skepticism and fierce criticism...
So was it all just "Fake News" as most people believe?... OR... Could the find have been real, and was "easily" covered up, to keep the cultures of our world from be thrust into chaos?
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Post by MCDemuth on Jan 7, 2018 2:32:51 GMT
The Malmstrom AFB UFO/Missile Incident
Malmstrom AFB, MT, USA March 16, 1967. WHAT caused the Nuclear ICBMs to go offline? Was it just a coincidence that UFOs were spotted over the facilities, while some unknown Earthly technical problem just happened to be happening? Or was the problem caused by the Alien UFOs, which had been reported by so many people, that morning? ...And UFOs captured on Radar... Ancient Cultures all over the world wrote about "Gods" from the "Heavens"... Aliens or Not... Having our defenses taken off-line by something "unknown"... Is very scary.
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Post by hi224 on Jan 8, 2018 8:36:49 GMT
welip no sleep for me at all.
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Post by hi224 on Jan 16, 2018 19:53:52 GMT
The kris kremers and lisa froon case although guess they died from elements.
Andrew Godsen is a strange case.
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Post by mecano04 on Jan 16, 2018 21:57:58 GMT
The Malmstrom AFB UFO/Missile Incident
Malmstrom AFB, MT, USA March 16, 1967. WHAT caused the Nuclear ICBMs to go offline? Was it just a coincidence that UFOs were spotted over the facilities, while some unknown Earthly technical problem just happened to be happening? Or was the problem caused by the Alien UFOs, which had been reported by so many people, that morning? ...And UFOs captured on Radar... Ancient Cultures all over the world wrote about "Gods" from the "Heavens"... Aliens or Not... Having our defenses taken off-line by something "unknown"... Is very scary. I do watch it from time to time but usually there is too much speculations over fact and real story telling in Hangar 1 ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangar_1:_The_UFO_Files) but they had that story. Basically the UFOS knew where the missiles were and they just sent a beam down and that was it. We may speculate whether it was made to prevent us from arming each other with such devastating weapons or it was made to make us powerless against them but one thing is sure, we don't have the best scans/radar/whatever-you-want-to-call-them in our galaxy.
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Post by mecano04 on Jan 16, 2018 23:21:26 GMT
The kris kremers and lisa froon case although guess they died from elements. Andrew Gosden is a strange case. Kremers & Froon case seem to be about 2 people getting lost in the jungle and then everything goes wrong despite their best efforts: www.thedailybeast.com/the-lost-girls-of-panama-the-camera-the-jungle-and-the-bonesI would have to dig to find a site with all the pictures but this guy says there is a conspiracy since there seems to be a missing picture: You can judge for yourself on the credibility. Now as for the Andrew Gosden case, don't the school call home when the kid isn't present? I mean, here in Québec (Canada), in both elementary and high schools, presence are being taken for each period and after each break/recreation. That means the school knows when you are present and when you leave early or if you don't show up at all. In the case you don't show up at all, they call at home if they haven't got a message or an explanation from a parent and it's not something new, it has been like that for decades. So again, he wasn't in school yet his sister didn't seem to have taken a call or message from the school saying he wasn't there. Now digging and reading on the wiki: " When he failed to attend lessons at his school, the teachers tried to contact his parents but a misdial on the phone meant they ended up with the wrong number, and Gosden's disappearance was not logged until later that day." I get he might not be the only Andrew with Gosden for family name in his area but it seems so simple it's stupid. It seems like there was negligence on the school end for not making sure they had the right persons on the phone and not recording properly his absence. It seems like the school only asked "Is your child at home?" and the parents answered "He is at school" and that was it. Other details seem puzzling. They say he didn't ask for a return ticket and didn't bring the charger for his Playstation Portable (PSP) device. Let's start with the charger being left at home. For any normal person, you don't bring your charger if you expect to be back home within a few hours. Now, he didn't have his charger but if we include the fact he didn't ask for a return ticket, is it too far fetched to presume he planned to get back by another mean? Something like a taxi or maybe someone he was familiar with could/would have given him a ride home? Still, a major issue is the delay to get the other CCTV footage from other buildings and areas. They probably missed vital clues. I do hope the family will get an answer someday. Nothing other than finding him alive and well will satisfy them but at the very least they deserve an answer.
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Post by Lynx on Jan 17, 2018 3:21:33 GMT
It sounds morbid to say "favorite", but the most intriguing mystery to me for years now has been "Jon Bennet's murder.
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Post by MCDemuth on Feb 10, 2018 21:37:35 GMT
Another One... The Dropa Stones In 1938, 716 Disks with groves containing microscopic inscriptions ( that could only be seen with a magnifying glass), now called the "Dropa Stones", were found in man-made caves in China. Some very strange skeletons that were " very short, spindly creatures with giant heads" were also found in the caves, along with, paintings and petroglyphs of the solar system. Scientists have dated these disks to approximately 10,000 BC... Based on the skeletal remains found at the site. In 1962, the inscriptions were deciphered by a Chinese archaeologist named: Tsum Um Nui... Tsum Um Nui claimed that the disks tell the story of: " An alien spaceship... Belonging to the "Dropa": tiny extraterrestrial dwarf-like beings... crashed landed on Earth. The aliens had no possibility of repairing their spacecraft, and were stuck on Earth.
Later the Dropa people were hunted down and killed by the local Han Chinese for a period." Tsum Um Nui was forbidden by the Chinese Science community to publish his findings... however, the finding were still published publicly to the world. As usual, No one believed the story, and just thought the whole thing was just "science fiction". Shortly after the information was published, the Chinese government confiscated the disks, and quickly dismissed their existance as a hoax... No record has been found of any of these discs being displayed in any of the world's museums, and their current whereabouts are unknown. More information on the Dropa Stones: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropa_stonesThis does seem to be a case involving real objects, and not just made up.... Microscopic writings made by primitive man in 10,000 BC? I don't think so. So what were they? Alien "Records"?... much like our own Golden Records that were sent out with the Voyager probes or... Proof of a lost advanced human culture, much like the fabled Lost City Of Atlantis?
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Post by mecano04 on Feb 10, 2018 22:53:37 GMT
Another One... The Dropa Stones In 1938, 716 Disks with groves containing microscopic inscriptions ( that could only be seen with a magnifying glass), now called the "Dropa Stones", were found in man-made caves in China. Some very strange skeletons that were " very short, spindly creatures with giant heads" were also found in the caves, along with, paintings and petroglyphs of the solar system. Scientists have dated these disks to approximately 10,000 BC... Based on the skeletal remains found at the site. In 1962, the inscriptions were deciphered by a Chinese archaeologist named: Tsum Um Nui... Tsum Um Nui claimed that the disks tell the story of: " An alien spaceship... Belonging to the "Dropa": tiny extraterrestrial dwarf-like beings... crashed landed on Earth. The aliens had no possibility of repairing their spacecraft, and were stuck on Earth.
Later the Dropa people were hunted down and killed by the local Han Chinese for a period." Tsum Um Nui was forbidden by the Chinese Science community to publish his findings... however, the finding were still published publicly to the world. As usual, No one believed the story, and just thought the whole thing was just "science fiction". Shortly after the information was published, the Chinese government confiscated the disks, and quickly dismissed their existance as a hoax... No record has been found of any of these discs being displayed in any of the world's museums, and their current whereabouts are unknown. More information on the Dropa Stones: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropa_stonesThis does seem to be a case involving real objects, and not just made up.... Microscopic writings made by primitive man in 10,000 BC? I don't think so. So what were they? Alien "Records"?... much like our own Golden Records that were sent out with the Voyager probes or... Proof of a lost advanced human culture, much like the fabled Lost City Of Atlantis? Interesting and here is another link: www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/esp_dropa_6.htmWhile the wiki points to the fact this story is often brought up by "pseudoarcheologists" like Graham Hancock and I have seen him made some interesting points (but also been seriously debunked) I do agree with him that at some point between 10 000 & 12 000 years ago we had civilizations more advanced than what "conventional" history tells us. There are ruins and objects being found in recent years that contradict the claim that people back then were "primitive". My biggest question is when will the history books be re-written to include those findings, which aren't pseudo-archeology. Back to the disks, there isn't enough "hard" evidence for me to really make a definite opinion but everything is plausible.
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Post by MCDemuth on Feb 10, 2018 23:52:31 GMT
I do agree with him that at some point between 10,000 & 12,000 years ago we had civilizations more advanced than what "conventional" history tells us. There are ruins and objects being found in recent years that contradict the claim that people back then were "primitive". My biggest question is when will the history books be re-written to include those findings, which aren't pseudo-archeology. Scientists and archaeologists keep finding ancient buildings, communities and skeletons that keep pushing mankind's history, further and further back in time... Scientists now believe there was a great cataclysm about 10,950 BC... caused by a comet or meteor shower... and some of the impacts possibly caused major earthquakes and volcanic eruptions too... all this heat, brought an end to "the" ice age, and caused the big glaciers to melt... Humidity in the air, and flowing water, caused numerous thunderstorms and then "The Great Flood"... and with the global cloud cover and other debris in the air, the sun may have been blocked out for years, which may have even restarted the ice age, a mini one, for another 1000 years... Ancient writings said it happened... and there is more and more physical proof, everywhere you look, every day, that it happened... We just can't ignore it anymore... It was a horrific time, and it did cause the end of the old world... People keep jokingly talking about " being sent back to the stone age"... But, based on the evidence, I am starting to think that it has already happened at least once, back in 10,950 BC!... We started all over again. You had the Great Library of Alexandria that was destroyed around 350 AD... and the NAZIs burnt libraries worth of books during WWII... ETC... Who knows what knowledge was lost in the destruction of all those books. Perhaps the only copy of " Building A Pyramid? How To Levitate Huge Stone Blocks!" ? And then you have any unwritten knowledge lost from the minds of just regular people throughout history, due to any kind of a natural disaster, or even war... Just because we went to the moon, back in 1969... doesn't mean that was the first time... or... that we are "so smart" now... There is a HELL OF A LOT more for us to learn and accomplish. I agree that mainstream History Books need to be re-written. We just can't keep teaching ancient history as it was perceived back in 1900.
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Post by mecano04 on Feb 11, 2018 1:08:21 GMT
I do agree with him that at some point between 10,000 & 12,000 years ago we had civilizations more advanced than what "conventional" history tells us. There are ruins and objects being found in recent years that contradict the claim that people back then were "primitive". My biggest question is when will the history books be re-written to include those findings, which aren't pseudo-archeology. Scientists and archaeologists keep finding ancient buildings, communities and skeletons that keep pushing mankind's history, further and further back in time... Scientists now believe there was a great cataclysm about 10,950 BC... caused by a comet or meteor shower... and some of the impacts possibly caused major earthquakes and volcanic eruptions too... all this heat, brought an end to "the" ice age, and caused the big glaciers to melt... Humidity in the air, and flowing water, caused numerous thunderstorms and then "The Great Flood"... and with the global cloud cover and other debris in the air, the sun may have been blocked out for years, which may have even restarted the ice age, a mini one, for another 1000 years... Ancient writings said it happened... and there is more and more physical proof, everywhere you look, every day, that it happened... We just can't ignore it anymore... It was a horrific time, and it did cause the end of the old world... People keep jokingly talking about " being sent back to the stone age"... But, based on the evidence, I am starting to think that it has already happened at least once, back in 10,950 BC!... We started all over again. You had the Great Library of Alexandria that was destroyed around 350 AD... and the NAZIs burnt libraries worth of books during WWII... ETC... Who knows what knowledge was lost in the destruction of all those books. Perhaps the only copy of " Building A Pyramid? How To Levitate Huge Stone Blocks!" ? And then you have any unwritten knowledge lost from the minds of just regular people throughout history, due to any kind of a natural disaster, or even war... Just because we went to the moon, back in 1969... doesn't mean that was the first time... or... that we are "so smart" now... There is a HELL OF A LOT more for us to learn and accomplish. I agree that mainstream History Books need to be re-written. We just can't keep teaching ancient history as it was perceived back in 1900. By comparison, based on how much time passed since it happened, we (humanity) probably lost more with the destruction of the Great Library of Alexandria. While it may not have provided answers to every question about the Ancient world it would have at least provided us answers on the literature of that time. Even without the knowledge held inside, I wish I would have been able to see it and the 5 other Wonders that got destroyed. But enough dreaming, talking about Cataclysm, have you ever read the Epic of Gilgamesh ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh) ? At some point, Gilgamesh encounters a man named Utnapishtim ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utnapishtim). That man was " a character (in the Epic of Gilgamesh) who is tasked by Enki (Ea) to abandon his worldly possessions and create a giant ship to be called The Preserver of Life. He was also tasked with bringing his wife, family, and relatives along with the craftsmen of his village, baby animals, and grains. " Does that sound familiar? For doing so he was rewarded with living to nearly a thousand years. And now from another wiki " Noah died 350 years after the flood, at the age of 950" ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah). I have read both, in english, but it's the same tale. It's not the same bird that is sent to explore and there are a few details that aren't identical but there is no mistake, it's the same story. The thing is, at the very least, the Epic of Gilgamesh predates the Old Testament's Genesis by nearly 1000 years, depending on how old the estimate is ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Testament ). The Flood is always there. While we may need to study how people migrated and it may help explain how it was integrated in each culture's folklore, a Flood is what brought down the Atlantis according to Plato and it happened around 9 000 years before his time ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis) and he was born 400-something years BC. So adding 9 000 it happened at least 9 400 years BC! It does fit. Then the reason listed is that after being defeated by Athens " The story concludes with Atlantis falling out of favor with the deities and submerging into the Atlantic Ocean" (same wiki source as above). Sounds like God punishing mankind and a bit like what will happen with Ragnarök, according to the Norse Mythology ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnar%C3%B6k). It all ends with a Flood. I would have to dig a bit but I read some articles about similar stories in Asian mythology. Call me crazy but I don't believe it's a coincidence that so many cultures have that Flooding of the world in their folklore, especially in stories of the Ancient World. Combined with what you brought up, it might not be much but the idea that a cataclysm happened thousands of years ago and sent humanity back to the stone age, holds water.
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Post by hi224 on Feb 24, 2018 0:37:59 GMT
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Post by JHA Durant on Mar 14, 2018 13:14:06 GMT
The disappearance of Lenny Dirickson.
In Oklahoma, a rancher called Lenny Dirickson and his son were having breakfast together when a vehicle neither recognized pulled up outside. Lenny went out to greet the occupant, and before long he returned to his son and told him he had to go somewhere with the driver to take a look at a stallion Lenny owned. They left, and Lenny Dirickson was never seen again.
Workers at a nearby diner claimed that Lenny and the mystery man called in and ordered breakfast later that morning, despite Lenny having already eaten. This reported incident is disputed, however. Six months after his disappearance, a man in Amarillo, Texas rang the police to tell them that Lenny Dirickson was in a crowded bar. By the time the police arrived, Lenny and the mysterious caller were gone. There were no more leads after that.
Interesting points: The mystery man had asked to see a certain stallion, yet that particular horse wasn't for sale, and Lenny had no plans to sell it. Also, the Diricksons were still dealing with a divorce when Lenny went missing.
So what happened to him? The only explanation that might make sense is that he somehow had a double life, perhaps even another family, and turned his back on his son and everyone else and went back to them.
It is 20 years to the day since his disappearance.
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Post by hi224 on Mar 16, 2018 8:26:16 GMT
The missy bevers.
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Post by Nalkarj on Jun 16, 2018 14:14:08 GMT
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Post by MCDemuth on Jun 16, 2018 15:22:22 GMT
Nope, Never heard of that case before... Very Interesting. It reminds me a lot of the Travis Walton UFO case, which the movie "Fire In The Sky" (1993) was based on. Both individuals were nowhere to be found, during a massive search which lasted for several days... The only difference is, there were eyewitnesses in the Travis Walton case, who claimed to know what happened to him, while he was missing.
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Post by Bargle on Jun 17, 2018 11:44:01 GMT
Just stumbled onto this thread today. Mine would be the California Zodiac murders, the murder of the Grimes sisters in Chicago and the murder of Valerie Percy near Chicago. I would have mentioned the East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker AKA The Golden State Killer case, but that one got solved recently. The Hinterkaifek murders are very strange as well. All very odd cases with no strong suspects in any of them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2018 16:08:18 GMT
Let's clear up the 'Dropa Stones'.
They never existed.
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