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Jon Stewart HIJACKED The Daily Show. We're taking it BACK.
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Post by reelreviews2 on Aug 9, 2017 6:15:14 GMT
If you look at my profile image or posting history on television boards, you'll soon discover I was a huge fan of the ORIGINAL incarnation of The Daily Show in the 90s (when Craig Kilborn was the host). Much like the 90s version of MST3K, The Daily Show in THAT era was a silly, light-hearted parody that DIDN'T take its seriously and focused on "irrelevant fluff" and poking fun at anything and everything in pop culture.
Then Jon Stewart took over in 1999, and within a few years, the tone, style and purpose of The Daily Show transformed 180 degrees (despite Stewart vowing back in 1999 that he WOULDN'T alter the format of the show, because "that would be like painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa”) By 2003, The Daily Show had an entirely different audience and focus than the Craig Kilborn incarnation of the show.
By the time Stewart left over a decade later in 2015, The Daily Show would be unrecognizable to fans of the 90s version, and only retained the "Dog on Fire" theme music, the "Back in Black" segment of Lewis Black doing crazy rants about stuff in the news that week, and the "Moment of Zen" closing (which itself had completely changed from its 90s format of being a clip of some random bizarre stuff to instead often being a clip of an "extended" part of a story they had covered earlier in the episode)
When they announced MST3K would be revived by Netflix in 2017, I was VERY excited at first. YES! One of my favorite crazy parody shows from the 90s doing laugh-out-loud quips mocking everything and everything seen in old movies! Then the devastating news came down... the new HEAD WRITER of MST3K would be the SAME GUY who was head writer for Jon Stewart's Daily Show In Name Only: Elliott Kalan. A name that will live in infamy.
I was crestfallen. It seems likely now that history will repeat itself. :-(
I like the new cast of MST3K, and the opening and format looks much like the classic 90s version. But that special spark that made MST3K unique and crazy is missing. The same thing could be said of Jon Stewart's Daily Show during his first season -- it LOOKED just like Craig Kilborn's incarnation at first, but just wasn't as edgy or fun.
Slowly, Stewart's people then took over and turned it into a partisan platform for Democrat Party talking points around c. 2003. (the first year of Stewart's Daily Show, it differed little from its predecessor's formula). The tone of the show became bitter, nasty, and angry. Stewart wanted the Daily Show to preach lefty politics in the style of "righteous indignation" and they are STILL stuck on that format 17 years later, even after Stewart is long gone and HIS successor (Trevor Noah) has a much more laid back style that doesn't fit that format AT ALL.
I wouldn't be surprised to see them hijack MST3K and do the same. Within 2-3 more seasons, MST3K could have an entirely different feel and focus, if Stewart's goons begin to exert creative control over the show and wrestle it away from Joel Hodgson’s old guard. Once they take over and attract "new" fans who want to see Jonah and Bots spew the latest Nancy Pelosi talking point of the week, the newfound SJW fans will smirk about how the show has "evolved" and that it would be a "huge step backwards" to return the show to its roots as a lighthearted parody of everything. Jonah will be forced to parrot whatever Hillary Clinton’s views are on that given day. EVERY “joke” on the show will be about how “Republicans and Fox News are evil”.
Jon Stewart supporters have already destroyed one brilliant late 90s TV comedy show and turned it into something ugly and unrecognizable. We CANNOT allow them to do it again and ruin everything that made MST3K cute, fun and appealing to ALL demographics. Elliott Kalan's so-called "humor" is vicious, hate-filled, partisan material that exists only to tear down everyone who disagrees with him and serve as a soap box for the Bernie Sanders/Occupy Wall Street/Black Lives Matter crowd. THAT is what MST3K will be about, 24/7, if he had his ideal version.
For the good of MST3K, Elliott Kalan MUST go.
He has not begun to hijack the show for his own selfish purposes yet. He WILL try and WILL succeed if he has enough time to establish his 'control' over the show. Don't say you weren't warned.
In the end, MST3K will either follow the wishes of the fans, or Elliott Kalan.
Which side will YOU take?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 8:45:03 GMT
Maybe you should mount another one man boycott? That would show 'em!
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Jon Stewart HIJACKED The Daily Show. We're taking it BACK.
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Post by reelreviews2 on Aug 10, 2017 6:39:13 GMT
Maybe you should mount another one man boycott? That would show 'em! Gee, I thought there "ISN'T any boycott"? Over and over, you "there isn't any boycott" people would falsely claim "Reel knows too much about the episodes to have boycotted, I bet he's secretly watched every one of them" blah blah blah. Now, you seem to acknowledge there IS indeed a boycott. You can't even stick to your OWN talking points. In any case, the "one man" boycott claim has been thoroughly debunked as well, with mountains of evidence that millions of once die-hard Whovians have REFUSED to watch the show in recent years, and thousands more people to take to the internet and publicly state they have reached the end of their rope with Doctor Who and will tune OUT from now on, to even celebrity Whovians publicly renouncing the current Doctor Who and announcing they will no longer support it (the most prominent celebrity Doctor Who fan to join the boycott being Ken Hamm, for example). The only "evidence" for your claim (that there's no boycott at all or that I'm the only one boycotting) is "Graham says there's no boycott". Bottom line, the fact the SJW warrior crowd is actively working to destroy iconic entertainment franchises that have been around for DECADES is a serious concern for most of us. Ironically, you YOURSELF have cited such an example when you point out (quite correctly, I might add) that Star Trek Discovery is likely the next television project that will be an utter insult the once great source material its supposed "based" on, and thus Dead On Arrival. I haven't even taken it as far as you have, as I think there is a slight (however slim) chance that Star Trek Discovery will NOT suck, so I am willing to watch the pilot and give them a chance to make their case that this new show WILL be faithful to the spirit of Star Trek. Yet you have flat out are CERTAIN that Discovery will be an abomination and HOPE it fails. Despite that, you mock me for saying the SAME THING about "series 10" of Doctor Who -- AFTER I gave Moffat two seasons with Peter Calpadi to prove he wasn't ruining the franchise and going full bore SJW. Moffat's response was to ruin the show EVEN MORE, until it was was flat out UNWATCHABLE, hence the boycott. Yet you are prepared to boycott STD before a SINGLE episode has aired. Hypocrisy, thy name is Graham. It is time for fans of these iconic television shows to rise up and TAKE BACK our shows. The SJW cancer is no joke. Slowly, they consume and destroy everything that once made a franchise great entertainment. They destroyed The Daily Show well over a decade ago. They have destroyed Doctor Who and made it unwatchable garbage for at least a year now. They are in the process of destroying Star Trek next, and its likely they will start destroying MST3K next. THEY MUST BE STOPPED.
Rise up, fans, and tell the powers that be that WE'RE MAD AS HELL AND WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 8:18:10 GMT
Maybe you should mount another one man boycott? That would show 'em! Gee, I thought there "ISN'T any boycott"? Over and over, you "there isn't any boycott" people would falsely claim "Reel knows too much about the episodes to have boycotted, I bet he's secretly watched every one of them" blah blah blah. Now, you seem to acknowledge there IS indeed a boycott. You can't even stick to your OWN talking points. Except I never claimed that. Fail. |
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Jon Stewart HIJACKED The Daily Show. We're taking it BACK.
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Post by reelreviews2 on Aug 10, 2017 20:10:00 GMT
Gee, I thought there "ISN'T any boycott"? Over and over, you "there isn't any boycott" people would falsely claim "Reel knows too much about the episodes to have boycotted, I bet he's secretly watched every one of them" blah blah blah. Now, you seem to acknowledge there IS indeed a boycott. You can't even stick to your OWN talking points. Except you DID, and you don't seem to realize that all I have to find the previous threads and copy and paste your OWN comments to prove that you repeatedly claimed "there is NO boycott". For example: Epic fail, graham. You've just been proven a liar by your OWN posts. Next time you might consider NOT denying a previous comment you made. It would be as silly as me trying to get away with "I never said Bill ruined Doctor Who" |
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Aug 12, 2017 3:46:48 GMT
Leave Stewart and the New MXT3K alone. They are both American Treasures, as are Leslie West and Chris Walken.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Aug 13, 2017 23:22:45 GMT
A political joke has never hurt the show before. My favorite riff to this day is still the "80s song" from Hobgoblins.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Sept 4, 2017 19:23:14 GMT
I was glad to see the end of Kilborn's Daily Show. Stewart turned it into an icon of comedy.
And the new MST3K was also pretty funny. Not great, but still fun.
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