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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Mar 1, 2017 9:57:52 GMT
Robert was killed by a boar in self-defense.
Robert attacked first and missed his thrust. He had been drinking of his special wine all day, the one he insisted on having at all times. Cersei made sure he never lacked of it, as Robert was known to become violent when sober. He even hit her once.
Lancel did think it had been done with an evil purpose in mind but he was an idiot with one ball and no brains whose mother was a dumb whore with a fat arse.
It is known.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 2, 2017 0:37:20 GMT
Is that an actual fan theory? As much as I dislike Cersei, I concur there's no connection. Robert was drunk and got himself fucked up because of it. Happens every day in real life to real life husbands with bitchy wives. Why not in the realm of medieval fantasy?
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Mar 2, 2017 2:02:14 GMT
It's not a theory. Who could seriously believe that Cersei, threatened by Ned, relied on a hunting accident as if it were something anyone had control of?
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Post by Nightman on Mar 9, 2017 18:35:38 GMT
I still think Bloodraven made the boar do it. But relying on a boar in the first place is too stupid, even for Cersei. The George should have reconsidered that.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Mar 9, 2017 18:43:36 GMT
I still think Bloodraven made the boar do it. But relying on a boar in the first place is too stupid, even for Cersei. The George should have reconsidered that. It was an accident. She had as much to do with it as with the murder of Jon Arryn but viewers were led to believe otherwise. This is a trick which gets repeated all over the story. They'll do it again with Joffrey's murder in Season 4. Cersei would have loved to influence the proceedings but she wasn't able to and Shae was just telling the truth. |
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Post by bluerisk on Mar 10, 2017 0:08:08 GMT
She made Lancel give him stronger wine than Robert was used to. Still: he was a drunk and had just drunk more quantaties to the ssame avail.
The boar did the rest.
I guess Selmy really failed him here.
If he couldn't make him stop drinking, he had to take care that the boar was dead before it posed a threat.
Even if it had meant being yelled at or worse.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Mar 10, 2017 2:20:17 GMT
She made Lancel give him stronger wine than Robert was used to. Still: he was a drunk and had just drunk more quantaties to the ssame avail. The boar did the rest. I guess Selmy really failed him here. If he couldn't make him stop drinking, he had to take care that the boar was dead before it posed a threat. Even if it had meant being yelled at or worse. When the boss wants to do something risky for a hobby, the bodyguard cannot prevent it. His job is to keep foreign, intentional harm away, not to act as a protective mother. If Robert had ridden off a cliff instead of getting drunk before attacking a boar, it wouldn't have been Selmy's fault. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 8:37:19 GMT
It's not a theory. Who could seriously believe that Cersei, threatened by Ned, relied on a hunting accident as if it were something anyone had control of? makes sense |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 27, 2017 13:36:06 GMT
I still think Bloodraven made the boar do it. But relying on a boar in the first place is too stupid, even for Cersei. The George should have reconsidered that. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Cercei would look for any opportunity, whether it was at the boar hunt (Is there such a thing as a safe boar hunt even when sober?) or the tournament.
However, since the tournament was over, there were a bunch of ways for Robert to die during that hunt. If that weren't the plan there would have been no reason to have stronger wine in the first place.
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Post by movielover on Mar 27, 2017 14:01:07 GMT
Aren't you forgetting something? Cersei told Septor Unella: "I killed my husband...because it felt good to get rid of him."
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Mar 27, 2017 14:11:29 GMT
Aren't you forgetting something? Cersei told Septor Unella: "I killed my husband...because it felt good to get rid of him." She was teasing her. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 27, 2017 15:18:34 GMT
She made Lancel give him stronger wine than Robert was used to. Still: he was a drunk and had just drunk more quantaties to the ssame avail. The boar did the rest. I guess Selmy really failed him here. If he couldn't make him stop drinking, he had to take care that the boar was dead before it posed a threat. Even if it had meant being yelled at or worse. Selmy didn't fail him.
Robert was an idiot. He wanted to kill the boar despite being drunk.
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Post by bluerisk on Mar 28, 2017 5:33:01 GMT
She made Lancel give him stronger wine than Robert was used to. Still: he was a drunk and had just drunk more quantaties to the ssame avail. The boar did the rest. I guess Selmy really failed him here. If he couldn't make him stop drinking, he had to take care that the boar was dead before it posed a threat. Even if it had meant being yelled at or worse. Selmy didn't fail him.
Robert was an idiot. He wanted to kill the boar despite being drunk.
As his body guard it had been his duty to stop him, even if this has ment his very death. That's the difference between him and Arthur Dayne. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Mar 28, 2017 5:40:44 GMT
Selmy didn't fail him.
Robert was an idiot. He wanted to kill the boar despite being drunk.
As his body guard it had been his duty to stop him, even if this has ment his very death. That's the difference between him and Arthur Dayne. A bodyguard cannot prevent his boss from practicing a dangerous sport. He would be fired. I wish idiots would shut up. |
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