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Post by heeeeey on Oct 1, 2017 22:45:42 GMT
There are a couple of things I find obnoxious about Lucy in this show.
1. She lives in a tiny apt, yet needed a maid to help her with that brat that she couldn't leave behind fast enough when they went to Europe.
2. Even though Ethel was always happy for her when something good happened, Lucy would get jealous and envious of Ethel the one or two times something good happened to Ethel.
Lucy was not a good friend.
Thoughts?
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Post by deembastille on Oct 1, 2017 23:29:30 GMT
There are a couple of things I find obnoxious about Lucy in this show.
1. She lives in a tiny apt, yet needed a maid to help her with that brat that she couldn't leave behind fast enough when they went to Europe.
2. Even though Ethel was always happy for her when something good happened, Lucy would get jealous and envious of Ethel the one or two times something good happened to Ethel.
Lucy was not a good friend.
Thoughts?
COMPLETELY! I never understood why they had the kid if they left him with Mother or Mrs Trumble at the drop of a hat! they went all over the freaking place without that kid! For a long while they were in California without him! Then came the European tour for Ricky and his bongo banging band. why the crap did lucy have to go? and ethel??? then wahwahwah she is upset because it is little ricky's birthday and she is in freaking Italy --wahwahwah! bitch! [funny thing, this having a kid and then conveniently dropping it off anywhere and everywhere is not new. I think ILL was the first show to do it but it would in no way be the last. friends did it. mad about you did it even when they spent the entire series trying to have a kid. Malcolm in the middle when neither of the parents were working! srsly? they always complained about having no money! even Full house had the thumb twiddling twins being pawned off on anyone else in that house. I am sure there are a lot more but I am having a brain fart right now.
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Post by chalk2 on Oct 1, 2017 23:33:10 GMT
There are a couple of things I find obnoxious about Lucy in this show.
1. She lives in a tiny apt, yet needed a maid to help her with that brat that she couldn't leave behind fast enough when they went to Europe.
2. Even though Ethel was always happy for her when something good happened, Lucy would get jealous and envious of Ethel the one or two times something good happened to Ethel.
Lucy was not a good friend.
Thoughts?
Can't argue with that. Still liked the show if that is overlooked.
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Post by snsurone on Oct 6, 2017 15:25:44 GMT
I can't believe these posts!
Lucy Ricardo was a very unhappy, insecure woman who longed for a career in show business, yet could not obtain her dreams because of her abusive, controlling, jealous douchebag of a husband! Sure, she couldn't sing, but she was a terrific dancer (as shown in several episodes), and nobody could hold a candle to her in terms of comedy. Truth be told, Ricky's "talent" was very limited; he was not a good singer, and his erotic gyrations while banging his congo drum was laughable, at best. As for Little Ricky, he was only included in the series because Lucille was pregnant wit Desi, Jr. And she definitely was not happy about leaving him behind when she joined Ricky and the Mertz' on their trip to Europe. In fact, she missed the ship because she just had to give the kid one last kiss!
I rarely watch this show any more, basically because of Ricky's brutal treatment of Lucy and his overwhelming ego. I would have liked it if the Ricardo's divorced, and Lucy became a major celebrity in her own right.
Oh, BTW--Little Ricky DID go to Hollywood. He flew there with Lucy's mother, while the others travelled by car.
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Post by deembastille on Oct 6, 2017 16:23:19 GMT
Sns, I love you I love you I love you!
Looooceeee. You can(t) be in the chowe! Meanwhile, (and no disrespect to her) how many times did her boredom cost them a day or money? If she was allowed to perform he would have been able to keep an eye on her. Duh Ricky!
Could not agree with you more on Ricky's lack of talent. Babalooooooo! Bababarf!
IDK about Ms Ball's RL pregnancy. They could have had her hold books/have her been behind a tall chair/ talk through the kitchen service hatch? And if she really did care, she would have insisted LR join them on at least one of the trips. She could have not gone, too.
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Post by Matthew the Swordsman on Oct 25, 2017 11:08:51 GMT
By this point, we can all guess what my reply will be:
It was first shown in Sydney, Australia on Saturday 27 October 1956 on TCN-9, aired at 9:00PM. It was preceded by "Smoking Out the Nolans" (what??) and followed by "London Playhouse". TCN was the only station in Sydney at the time. However, it did not begin being shown regularly until 4 February 1957, where it aired at 8:30PM on Mondays, preceded by "Disneyland" and followed by "Whitehall Playhouse" (which was actually a retitled "Studio 57"). It aired against "Your Favorite Story" on ABN-2 and "Boston Blackie" on ATN-7.
In Melbourne, it began being shown on Monday 28 January 1957 on HSV-7, again preceded by "Disneyland" and followed by "Whitehall Playhouse", and aired against "Your Favorite Story" on ABV-2 and "Cross Current" on GTV-9.
In Canberra, television didn't arrive until 1962, and initially consisted of a single station. CTC-7 showed it on Thursdays at 7:30PM by June 1962, preceded by a Sydney-produced drama series called "Whiplash" and followed by "Laramie".
In Bendigo, TV took until 1961 to arrive. By December BCV-8 showed it at 8:00PM on Wednesdays, preceded by "Rescue 8" and followed by a feature film.
Brisbane, Adelaide, and Perth got TV in 1959, and various parts of Australia got it in the 1960s, but I don't have access to their schedules except for a few weeks. I do know that it was not shown in Wollongong during the 1960s nor 1970s.
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Post by marianne48 on Nov 5, 2017 18:49:42 GMT
Lucy was a spoiled brat of a woman. While Ricky could sometimes seem abusive in today's terms (turning his wife over on his knee and spanking her?!), I don't blame him for getting irritated at her. She disrupted his show constantly and was miserable and manipulative. Meanwhile the Ricardos were often in debt because of her compulsive spending habits. Whenever Ricky got angry and complained, she would have a tantrum like a two-year-old (complete with loud, drawn-out "WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!"s), requiring Ethel to proclaim, "You poor little thing!" Meanwhile, Ethel was the poor little thing, living with lumpy old skinflint Fred; she seldom got to dress up or do anything fun, and she always had to pretend that she wa s as old as Fred. One of the times I felt really sorry for her was in an episode in which Ricky and Fred were dressing up to take Lucy and Ethel out for the evening; Ethel was ecstatic because, as she reports to Lucy, she thinks that Fred "is taking a bath!" (So he seldom did? Eeewww). Ricky was a good-looking guy, by the way, and he sang and danced well; I always enjoyed the episodes that highlighted one of his musical performances. Desi Arnaz and Lucille Ball met on the set of the movie Too Many Girls; the movie ends with one of the most energetic musical numbers ever filmed, featuring Arnaz. Ricky Ricardo fans should really see it.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 11, 2017 23:10:20 GMT
There are a couple of things I find obnoxious about Lucy in this show.
1. She lives in a tiny apt, yet needed a maid to help her with that brat that she couldn't leave behind fast enough when they went to Europe.
2. Even though Ethel was always happy for her when something good happened, Lucy would get jealous and envious of Ethel the one or two times something good happened to Ethel.
Lucy was not a good friend.
Thoughts?
Addressing your specific concerns: 1. Getting the maid was Ricky's idea, and Mrs. Porter (the maid) had nothing to do with Little Ricky. MRS. PORTER: "Who takes care of him?" LUCY: "Oh, I do. I take complete charge of the baby, always." And Lucy soon concluded that she just wasn't comfortable having a maid. As for Little Ricky himself, a two-or-three-year-old who doesn't carry on conversations or do much of anything is simply not a compelling character. When he became old enough to be played by an actor who could contribute to the plots and comedy, he became much more integrated into the show. Lets face it: babies and toddlers are interesting almost exclusively to their own parents (a reality an entire ILL episode explored) and don't much make for great television. How entertaining, after all, would episodes involving Lucy changing or washing Little Ricky's diapers or staying behind while Ricky was off in Hollywood or Europe have been? 2. Ethel herself was sometimes bitten by the envy or self-pity bugs: she lamented the dilapidated state of her apartment when Lucy got new furniture; she whined that she and Fred would be forgotten if Ricky became a Hollywood star; she moaned that she never went anywhere when the Ricardos were planning their European trip. There really were no characters on the show who were without obvious personality flaws, and this aspect is among those that made it so successful and enduring. Lucy's vanity, selfishness and dishonesty, Ricky's bad temper and dictatorial tendencies; Fred's penny-pinching and crankiness; Ethel's dissatisfaction with her marriage and lot in life; these were all things viewers could recognize in their own friends and loved ones and - if they were candid - themselves as well. The show's value was in exploiting those basic human failings by exaggerating and finding humor in them, thereby making them endearing. How funny or entertaining would any of those people have been without them? In this way, ILL tapped into elemental factors of human existence: in order to have any meaningful relationships, the flaws in everyone we like or love must be overlooked or accepted even when they exasperate or infuriate us, just as our own flaws are overlooked and accepted by them. And a part of that is the frequency with which they lead to the sorts of conflict - and resolution - that formed the basis of so many of the best episodes. They've endured because all those things are as resonant now as they were 60 or more years ago.
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Post by Richard Kimble on Dec 18, 2017 6:06:26 GMT
A talented and charismatic musician emigrates to the US and becomes very successful in his adopted country. He has an affair with an ambitious, highly-strung older woman. Against his better judgment, he agrees to marry her. As his career as a singer and bandleader becomes more and more successful, the marriage becomes more and more troubled, due to his wife's increasingly bizarre behavior. She resents his success and frequently interferes with his career, often micromanaging him despite her lack of experience in show business -- at one point she even causes his contract to be dropped from MGM studios. As her mental illness mounts, she actually starts to insert herself into his act as a performer, in complete disregard of her total absence of talent, so desperate is she for some sort of display of public approval.
As her frustration increases she begins to fear that he will leave her, and she plots to become pregnant in order to keep him. But after the child is born her paranoid schizophrenia only worsens, not helped by her dubious "friendship" with a woman who co-owns her apartment building, as a result of her marrying a much older man for financial security. The two often conspire together against their husbands, both for financial gain and also to feed the bandleader's wife's endless need for attention and public approval.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Dec 21, 2017 14:57:49 GMT
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Post by snsurone on May 4, 2018 20:51:59 GMT
Sns, I love you I love you I love you! Looooceeee. You can(t) be in the chowe! Meanwhile, (and no disrespect to her) how many times did her boredom cost them a day or money? If she was allowed to perform he would have been able to keep an eye on her. Duh Ricky! Could not agree with you more on Ricky's lack of talent. Babalooooooo! Bababarf! IDK about Ms Ball's RL pregnancy. They could have had her hold books/have her been behind a tall chair/ talk through the kitchen service hatch? And if she really did care, she would have insisted LR join them on at least one of the trips. She could have not gone, too. Sorry for the late reply, deem. FWIW, I love yellow roses and Godiva chocolates. ;-)
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Post by snsurone on May 4, 2018 21:02:34 GMT
A talented and charismatic musician emigrates to the US and becomes very successful in his adopted country. He has an affair with an ambitious, highly-strung older woman. Against his better judgment, he agrees to marry her. As his career as a singer and bandleader becomes more and more successful, the marriage becomes more and more troubled, due to his wife's increasingly bizarre behavior. She resents his success and frequently interferes with his career, often micromanaging him despite her lack of experience in show business -- at one point she even causes his contract to be dropped from MGM studios. As her mental illness mounts, she actually starts to insert herself into his act as a performer, in complete disregard of her total absence of talent, so desperate is she for some sort of display of public approval. As her frustration increases she begins to fear that he will leave her, and she plots to become pregnant in order to keep him. But after the child is born her paranoid schizophrenia only worsens, not helped by her dubious "friendship" with a woman who co-owns her apartment building, as a result of her marrying a much older man for financial security. The two often conspire together against their husbands, both for financial gain and also to feed the bandleader's wife's endless need for attention and public approval. "Talented" and "charismitic"? You've gotta be kidding! I remember an episode of THE GOLDEN GIRLS (one of my favorite TV shows) where Sophia comments on I LOVE LUCY: "All the time she asks, 'Ricky, why can't I be in the show? Why can't I be in the show?' " "Well, why COULDN'T be in the show?" "She was a riot at home; his act at the club stinks!" "I mean, how long can anyone watch a Cuban beating a drum?" I fully agree with Sophia. I detest the character of Ricky Ricardo, especially how he treats his wife, either as a child or as a slave.
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Post by louise on May 14, 2018 13:31:21 GMT
There are a couple of things I find obnoxious about Lucy in this show.
1. She lives in a tiny apt, yet needed a maid to help her with that brat that she couldn't leave behind fast enough when they went to Europe.
2. Even though Ethel was always happy for her when something good happened, Lucy would get jealous and envious of Ethel the one or two times something good happened to Ethel.
Lucy was not a good friend.
Thoughts?
I Don't remember her having a maid. she left her son with her mother while she went to Europe - he probably enjoyed himself more staying with Grandma than he would trailing around Europe. I don't remember her being jealous of Ethel particularly, but if she had always been nice she wouldn't have been very funny.
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Post by louise on May 14, 2018 13:43:34 GMT
I can't believe these posts! Lucy Ricardo was a very unhappy, insecure woman who longed for a career in show business, yet could not obtain her dreams because of her abusive, controlling, jealous douchebag of a husband! Sure, she couldn't sing, but she was a terrific dancer (as shown in several episodes), and nobody could hold a candle to her in terms of comedy. Truth be told, Ricky's "talent" was very limited; he was not a good singer, and his erotic gyrations while banging his congo drum was laughable, at best. As for Little Ricky, he was only included in the series because Lucille was pregnant wit Desi, Jr. And she definitely was not happy about leaving him behind when she joined Ricky and the Mertz' on their trip to Europe. In fact, she missed the ship because she just had to give her kid one last kiss! I rarely watch this show any more, basically because of Ricky's brutal treatment of Lucy and his overwhelming ego. I would have liked it if the Ricardo's divorced, and Lucy became a major celebrity in her own right. OH, BTW--Little Ricky DID go to Hollywood. He flew there with Lucy's mother, while the others travelled by car. I think Ricky was very patient with Lucy, all things considered. SHe was always running them into debt, nagging to have new furniture or a bigger apartment when they couldn't afford it, disrupting his act at the club etc. SHe pestered him to take her to Europe, he hardly dragged her there against her will.
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Post by louise on May 14, 2018 13:49:16 GMT
A talented and charismatic musician emigrates to the US and becomes very successful in his adopted country. He has an affair with an ambitious, highly-strung older woman. Against his better judgment, he agrees to marry her. As his career as a singer and bandleader becomes more and more successful, the marriage becomes more and more troubled, due to his wife's increasingly bizarre behavior. She resents his success and frequently interferes with his career, often micromanaging him despite her lack of experience in show business -- at one point she even causes his contract to be dropped from MGM studios. As her mental illness mounts, she actually starts to insert herself into his act as a performer, in complete disregard of her total absence of talent, so desperate is she for some sort of display of public approval. As her frustration increases she begins to fear that he will leave her, and she plots to become pregnant in order to keep him. But after the child is born her paranoid schizophrenia only worsens, not helped by her dubious "friendship" with a woman who co-owns her apartment building, as a result of her marrying a much older man for financial security. The two often conspire together against their husbands, both for financial gain and also to feed the bandleader's wife's endless need for attention and public approval. "Talented" and "charismitic"? You've gotta be kidding! I remember an episode of THE GOLDEN GIRLS (one of my favorite TV shows) where Sophis comments on I LOVE LUCY: "All the time she asks, 'Ricky, why can't I be in the show? Why can'i I be in the show?' " "Well, why COULDN'T be in the show?" "She was a riot at home; his act at the club stinks!" "I mean, how long can anyone watch a Cuban beating a drum?" I fully agree with Sophia. I detest the character of Ricky Ricardo, especially how he treats his wife, either as a child or as a slave. Because it was supposed to be funny. If Ricky had just let Lucy be in the show, that would have ruined half the episodes. Ricky never treated Lucy like a slave. He treated her like a child when she behaved childishly.
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Post by snsurone on May 18, 2018 15:59:48 GMT
"Talented" and "charismitic"? You've gotta be kidding! I remember an episode of THE GOLDEN GIRLS (one of my favorite TV shows) where Sophis comments on I LOVE LUCY: "All the time she asks, 'Ricky, why can't I be in the show? Why can'i I be in the show?' " "Well, why COULDN'T be in the show?" "She was a riot at home; his act at the club stinks!" "I mean, how long can anyone watch a Cuban beating a drum?" I fully agree with Sophia. I detest the character of Ricky Ricardo, especially how he treats his wife, either as a child or as a slave. Because it was supposed to be funny. If Ricky had just let Lucy be in the show, that would have ruined half the episodes. Ricky never treated Lucy like a slave. He treated her like a child when she behaved childishly. Oh, really?? I can clearly remember an early episode where Ricky outlined his demands to Lucy: "I want you to clean the house for ME, bring ME my slippers, cook for ME, and be the mother of MY children." What a self-centered, narcissistic bastard!
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Post by BATouttaheck on May 18, 2018 19:55:54 GMT
louise said: Because it was supposed to be funny. If Ricky had just let Lucy be in the show, that would have ruined half the episodes.
EXACTLY ! and the other half of the episodes were Lucy nagging and begging for something and then plotting how to get what she wanted one way or another. Classic Comedy Gold. !
as an aside : Folks either have a functioning sense of humor or they don't. It's ultimately pointless trying to explain why something is funny when someone is dead set against seeing simple situational humor.
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Post by louise on May 26, 2018 21:09:03 GMT
Because it was supposed to be funny. If Ricky had just let Lucy be in the show, that would have ruined half the episodes. Ricky never treated Lucy like a slave. He treated her like a child when she behaved childishly. Oh, really?? I can clearly remember an early episode where Ricky outlined his demands to Lucy: "I want you to clean the house for ME, bring ME my slippers, cook for ME, and be the mother of MY children." What a self-centered, narcissistic bastard! oh yes, it's pretty disgusting s man wanting his wife to cook, clean and have children. ALl disgusting degrading activities far beneath any woman. RIcky should be shot for expecting his wife to demean herself like that, He is a vile and evil person. having children indeed! revolting. he could hardly make a more obscene suggestion. THe lowest of the low.
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Post by deembastille on May 26, 2018 23:42:11 GMT
"Talented" and "charismitic"? You've gotta be kidding! I remember an episode of THE GOLDEN GIRLS (one of my favorite TV shows) where Sophis comments on I LOVE LUCY: "All the time she asks, 'Ricky, why can't I be in the show? Why can'i I be in the show?' " "Well, why COULDN'T be in the show?" "She was a riot at home; his act at the club stinks!" "I mean, how long can anyone watch a Cuban beating a drum?" I fully agree with Sophia. I detest the character of Ricky Ricardo, especially how he treats his wife, either as a child or as a slave. Because it was supposed to be funny. If Ricky had just let Lucy be in the show, that would have ruined half the episodes. Ricky never treated Lucy like a slave. He treated her like a child when she behaved childishly. i think by slave they meant 'maid'. like his job was to bring home the bacon, her job was to fry it up sort of thing. all the women do is lay about all day. bs. things just kind of got done. he didn't recognize the amount of effort it took to keep the house and cook the dinner and bake the cake and create the radish roses...
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Post by snsurone on May 28, 2018 0:39:41 GMT
oh yes, it's pretty disgusting s man wanting his wife to cook, clean and have children. ALl disgusting degrading activities far beneath any woman. RIcky should be shot for expecting his wife to demean herself like that, He is a vile and evil person. having children indeed! revolting. he could hardly make a more obscene suggestion. THe lowest of the low. Louise, why don't you time-travel back to the 1950's and become Ricky's wife/maid/sex slave? And face his terrible temper when you do the slightest thing that he doesn't approve and have him flapping his gums in Spanish at you? Why don't you live in terror of him day after day, fearing he'd kill you if you bought a new hat? That's what I like about Ethel; she wasn't afraid of her husband and put him in his place whenever the situation warranted it. I often wished that she would finally leave him, but then, she had no marketable skills to survive on her own (she had a beautiful singing voice, but at her advanced age, her chances of employment in music was slim to none), and you know that skinflint Fred would never pay alimony, even if he was sent to jail.
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