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Post by deembastille on Jun 17, 2018 1:58:37 GMT
sns... what is the point of putting these people on ignore if you are going to continue to talk to them via someone else? how is that letting go? and i highly doubt ALL FOUR of them would drop you to further their careers. i do know of drs/therapists who drop patients who are just not involved in their own therapy [or so the therapists say]. i have dropped drs who were too busy furthering their careers [one endocrinologist would constantly cancel appointments and the next appointment would be three months later!] but in terms of therapists... they would only terminate the therapy if the effort was only one sided. so if all four of these people terminated their work with you, then perhaps you were not putting the effort into the therapy. it's okay to not want to get well, but don't waste anyone else's time. I realize that you don't believe me, deem, but I assure you that it's true. They were much younger than I, and they didn't want to stay too long in the individual institutions where I sought their treatment. In other words, they were no help at all! I'm better off talking with my friends, who have all received therapy and take medication. And don't laugh; mental illness is around among many people. Thank God it isn't stigmatized any more, although you seem to think it should be! BTW, I agree with your assessment of GREEN ACRES. I hate that show; in fact, I hate all those Paul Henning "rural" sitcoms. I was mighty glad when CBS cancelled them in 1970. its not that i don't believe you, in fact i went through around 7 endocrinologists who 'left mt Sinai' because they WERE young. they were interested in pursuing their own shit. in fact, the last straw was when the last one called to reschedule an appointment and i didn't have my schedule in front of me but returned the call the next day [literally] only to hear THAT SHE WAS NO LONGER AT THAT PRACTICE! um... she was at the practice yesterday! the problem is that depression shouldn't be viewed as a mental illness. think about the words. mental. mind. illness. sick. the words mean you are sick in your mind and translate into 'you shouldn't be let out alone'. how dare you accuse me of laughing at 'mental illness' fuck you.
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Post by louise on Jun 19, 2018 18:21:36 GMT
well, for one thing I don't know how to time travel, do you? for another, I couldn't be Ricky Ricardo's wife because he didn't exist, he was a Fictional character on a to show. if I went back to the 50s he wouldn't be there. and for another thing, I don't want to live in America, real or fictional. IF I was going to marry a character from a tv show it wouldn't be Ricky. LUcy did things Ricky didn't approve of all the time, if she'd been really frightened of him she would not have endlessly defied him the way she did. she couldn't care less if he disapproved of anything she did, she was only interested in getting her own way. SHe and Ethel were always doing something crazy, neither of them cared what their husbands thought really. if Ethel had wanted to leave Fred, she could have gone back to her father, who clearly doted on her. I expect she could have got a job in her home town, where she seems to have been held in high esteem. No, I don't know how to time travel. I wish someone could develop that so we could go back to the past and change history. And there are still "Ricky Ricardo's" IRL, despite the progress women have made in the 60+ years since this show aired. Go visit a women's shelter if you don't believe me. I think Ricky was extremely patient with Lucy, considering how maddening she was. she was funny on the tv but would be a nightmare in real life. I certainly wouldn't want her for a daughter in law. she was a nutcase.
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Post by snsurone on Jul 16, 2018 15:21:35 GMT
I realize that you don't believe me, deem, but I assure you that it's true. They were much younger than I, and they didn't want to stay too long in the individual institutions where I sought their treatment. In other words, they were no help at all! I'm better off talking with my friends, who have all received therapy and take medication. And don't laugh; mental illness is around among many people. Thank God it isn't stigmatized any more, although you seem to think it should be! BTW, I agree with your assessment of GREEN ACRES. I hate that show; in fact, I hate all those Paul Henning "rural" sitcoms. I was mighty glad when CBS cancelled them in 1970. its not that i don't believe you, in fact i went through around 7 endocrinologists who 'left mt Sinai' because they WERE young. they were interested in pursuing their own shit. in fact, the last straw was when the last one called to reschedule an appointment and i didn't have my schedule in front of me but returned the call the next day [literally] only to hear THAT SHE WAS NO LONGER AT THAT PRACTICE! um... she was at the practice yesterday! the problem is that depression shouldn't be viewed as a mental illness. think about the words. mental. mind. illness. sick. the words mean you are sick in your mind and translate into 'you shouldn't be let out alone'. how dare you accuse me of laughing at 'mental illness' fuck you. Fuck YOU!!!
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Post by snsurone on Jul 16, 2018 15:39:18 GMT
One episode I really like is from Season 2.
SPOILER ALERT:
In this story, Ricky hired a financial consultant (played by Charles Lane) to pay their bills and manage their money. Trouble was, the only allowance he gave Lucy was five dollars, which had to last her the whole month. Even in the early '50's, it was impossible to stretch a fin that far, and anyway, Ethel took it when she won a bet with Lucy. To keep the family from starving, Mr. Hickock did set up a charge account for her at the local supermarket. Lucy then had an idea that she would do the grocery shopping for the whole apartment building, charging it to her account, and pocketing the cash her neighbors gave her. When Ethel mentioned that at the end of the month, Lucy will have to pay that grocery bill, Lucy replied, "No, I won't; Mr. Hickock will." On a pad, she wrote "Tuesday: buy Can All Pet", cat food for Mrs Trumble. Well, when Ricky saw that Lucy had her hair done and bought a new dress, when his eyes bugged out at the huge wad of cash in her purse, and when he saw her note pad, he and Fred immediately came to the conclusion that Lucy was playing the stock market, and collecting "mucho dinero", LOL. The two men checked out "Can All Pet" in the paper and saw "Canadian Allied Petroleum", which was a very cheap stock. Ricky immediately phoned Mr. Hickcock to buy him some of that stock, at when he disagreed about the purchase, Ricky fired him! Turned out that Ricky made $1000 on that stock, and he gave half of it to Lucy to spend as she pleased. Of course, she realized that most of that money will have to be used to pay the grocery bill. I admit that the final scene, where Lucy tried to summon up that "little voice", was really silly, but the rest of the episode was great.
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Post by jrdmln on Jul 28, 2018 22:02:25 GMT
I agree. She probably didn't need a maid since their apartment was so small. They only had a maid in one Episode when Lucy was overly tired from Little Ricky waking her up in the middle of the night when he was a baby. The maid got on their nerves so they let her go. They probably realized that they didn't need a maid anyways since their apartment is so small and Lucy adjusted to Little Ricky waking her up in the middle of the night. Both Lucy and Ethel got jealous of each other at times. They did act silly at times, but they always made up at the end of the Episode. No one is perfect. Everyone has their flaws. Lucy missed Little Ricky when she was in Europe. She missed the boat to Europe and had to get on the boat by helicopter because she got off the ship one more time to say good bye to him. It was better that Little Ricky stayed home with Lucy's mother when they went to Europe. Since he was so young, he wouldn't enjoy going to Europe. I could tell that Lucy loved Little Ricky. I also agree with the poster that said that Ricky could be controlling and somewhat abusive at times. I am not sure if Lucy had a good chance of being in show business, but she was a good dancer. I also agree that he did overreact about her buying a new hat at times. I also agree that his talent was limited too. I think he just wanted her to be a housewife. There nothing wrong with being a housewife if a woman chooses to be, but she shouldn't have to if she doesn't want to. I don't think any of the characters behavior should be taken too seriously. The show is suppose to be comedy where Lucy always gets into silly situations.
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Post by snsurone on Aug 1, 2018 15:58:14 GMT
jrdmin, you and I think alike on some points, especially about Ricky's treatment of Lucy. Yes, it is a comedy and we're supposed to suspend some belief, but I find it very difficult to look past some of Ricky's behavior, especially since many of Lucy's actions were meant for Ricky's benefit--say, the episode called "The Publicity Agent" where Lucy posed as the "Maharincess of Franistan" (one of the series' best).
IMO, Lucy was lucky to have such a good friend in Ethel. She was an excellent sounding board for Lucy's complaints and mostly is willing to go along with her schemes.
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Post by deembastille on Aug 1, 2018 23:45:40 GMT
jrdmin, you and I think alike on some points, especially about Ricky's treatment of Lucy. Yes, it is a comedy and we're supposed to suspend some belief, but I find it very difficult to look past some of Ricky's behavior, especially since many of Lucy's actions were meant for Ricky's benefit--say, the episode called "The Publicity Agent" where Lucy posed as the "Maharincess of Franistan" (one of the series' best). IMO, Lucy was lucky to have such a good friend in Ethel. She was an excellent sounding board for Lucy's complaints and mostly is willing to go along with her schemes. I laugh at people who question why lucy was not an equal partner in this marriage. THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS WOMEN BEING AN EQUAL PARTNER IN THE HOME IN THE FIFTIES!! no such thing! most of the men [granted, they learned from their father how to treat women] expected for his home to be a certain way, his dinner to be cooked a certain way, his slippers right where they need to be, a beer and the paper while the woman does everything in the home to make it a home. what is this 'equal partnership' crap? what planet are you from? stop bringing 2018 into this bitch, people!
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Post by louise on Aug 2, 2018 15:59:54 GMT
jrdmin, you and I think alike on some points, especially about Ricky's treatment of Lucy. Yes, it is a comedy and we're supposed to suspend some belief, but I find it very difficult to look past some of Ricky's behavior, especially since many of Lucy's actions were meant for Ricky's benefit--say, the episode called "The Publicity Agent" where Lucy posed as the "Maharincess of Franistan" (one of the series' best). IMO, Lucy was lucky to have such a good friend in Ethel. She was an excellent sounding board for Lucy's complaints and mostly is willing to go along with her schemes. I laugh at people who question why lucy was not an equal partner in this marriage. THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS WOMEN BEING AN EQUAL PARTNER IN THE HOME IN THE FIFTIES!! no such thing! most of the men [granted, they learned from their father how to treat women] expected for his home to be a certain way, his dinner to be cooked a certain way, his slippers right where they need to be, a beer and the paper while the woman does everything in the home to make it a home. what is this 'equal partnership' crap? what planet are you from? stop bringing 2018 into this bitch, people! LUcy and Ricky had quite a good marriage on the whoLe I think. they seemed fond of each other Despite the various disasters that Lucy mostly created. AS for the woman being expected to get the dinner etc, that hardly seems unreasonable if she is at home and the man is out at work. My father for instance worked very long hours running his own small business, so my mother naturally looked after the house, cooked the dinner etc. AS she didn't have a job, she had plenty of time for it, and to pursue her own interests as well. I have never really understood why being at home is nowadays viewed as a fate worse than death. as Alice Thomas Ellis wrote,thinking of her 1940s childhood: "When I was a child I used to feel sorry for the men who had to go off to work every day dressed in their stifling work clothes while the women and children could go for a picnic if they wanted to."
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Post by deembastille on Aug 2, 2018 16:47:06 GMT
I laugh at people who question why lucy was not an equal partner in this marriage. THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS WOMEN BEING AN EQUAL PARTNER IN THE HOME IN THE FIFTIES!! no such thing! most of the men [granted, they learned from their father how to treat women] expected for his home to be a certain way, his dinner to be cooked a certain way, his slippers right where they need to be, a beer and the paper while the woman does everything in the home to make it a home. what is this 'equal partnership' crap? what planet are you from? stop bringing 2018 into this bitch, people! LUcy and Ricky had quite a good marriage on the whoLe I think. they seemed fond of each other Despite the various disasters that Lucy mostly created. AS for the woman being expected to get the dinner etc, that hardly seems unreasonable if she is at home and the man is out at work. My father for instance worked very long hours running his own small business, so my mother naturally looked after the house, cooked the dinner etc. AS she didn't have a job, she had plenty of time for it, and to pursue her own interests as well. I have never really understood why being at home is nowadays viewed as a fate worse than death. as Alice Thomas Ellis wrote,thinking of her 1940s childhood: "When I was a child I used to feel sorry for the men who had to go off to work every day dressed in their stifling work clothes while the women and children could go for a picnic if they wanted to." I know what you mean. Some people on here are insisting they were in an equal partnership. Since when do you give 5dollars a week 'allowance' to an equal partner? And that's supposed to cover grocery shopping as well? Being a stay at home parent/housewife/husband is not considered a fate worse than death but losing your home is. That's the trigger now. Most people can't afford a single income family. My point is that back then, mostly, the men didn't do much in terms of helping out with the house or kids. PS if staying at home was a fate worse than death I guarantee you there would not be many able bodies on public assistance.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 4, 2018 18:02:20 GMT
oddest part of this thread is seeing these two "ladies" throwing F-BOMBS at each other in a thread about I LOVE LUCY !
bizarre ! Hair pulling and slapping contest next ?
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Post by snsurone on Oct 3, 2018 15:55:24 GMT
There's one thing that puzzles me, though.
The apartment was in Ethel's name, and she mortgaged it in order to pay for her and Lucy to travel to Europe with Ricky and Fred--without Fred's knowledge (he went into a catatonic state when Ethel told him). Now, this was the 1950's. How could Ethel have taken out a mortgage without Fred's authorization? Even though she owned the building, she would still need her husband's signature on any legal document. It wasn't until the mid-'70's that a woman could take out a loan or mortgage or purchase an insurance policy without the permission of the "lord and master".
Yeah, yeah--it's TV and you're supposed to suspend disbelief, but...
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Post by Gubbio on Oct 3, 2018 16:42:43 GMT
My dear, snsurone, I see you still have "issues." ____ ____ Gubbio, did you honesty expect my attitude regarding Ricky Ricardo to change just because IMDb ended the old format and started a new one? That's not being realistic, don't you think? What's REALLY unrealistic is YOU remaining so LIVID over a 70-year old SITCOM involving FICTITIOUS people. I can see why Ricky bothers you, but Lucy was no saint either: Scheming, conniving, manipulative, childish, petulant, jealous, self-centered -- and that's just a few adjectives. Maybe they deserved one another.....
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 3, 2018 17:31:25 GMT
There's one thing that puzzles me, though. There's a hell of a lot more than ONE THING that puzzles you !
Get a sense of humor and spare us the constant bitching about what you obviously do not understand ! The Ricardos are a FICTIONAL COMEDY FAMILY and I Love Lucy is not a documentary. Speaking of puzzling … Why you even bother watching comedy programs is beyond comprehension as humor goes right over your head.
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Post by snsurone on Oct 4, 2018 0:47:13 GMT
Gubbio, did you honesty expect my attitude regarding Ricky Ricardo to change just because IMDb ended the old format and started a new one? That's not being realistic, don't you think? What's REALLY unrealistic is YOU remaining so LIVID over a 70-year old SITCOM involving FICTITIOUS people. I can see why Ricky bothers you, but Lucy was no saint either: Scheming, conniving, manipulative, childish, petulant, jealous, self-centered -- and that's just a few adjectives. Maybe they deserved one another..... Ah, gubbio-- it seems our opinions haven't changed a whit since this new IMDb format came into existence. I'm the first to admit that Lucy was far from a saint, but the real reason she was so scheming, conniving, manipulative, etc. was because of Ricky's archaic belief in women's roles and his often brutal treatment of her. And, no--IMHO, she deserved better than that Cuban dictator! Maybe she would have made it in show business or maybe she wouldn't. But Ricky would never even give her a chance! One of my favorite episodes is "Lucy Meets Bob Hope", where ol' ski-nose berates Ricky sharply for his constant stepping on Lucy's aspirations, even to the point of declaring that if Lucy wasn't in the number, neither is he! And the sketch "Nobody Loves an Ump" was a great success, even with Lucy's cleated shoes becoming stuck onto the floor tiles, LOL. No, I'll never like the character of Ricky Ricardo. IMO, all he really had in his favor was good looks--and even that faded as time passed and he gained weight and his hair turned gray.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 4, 2018 1:41:35 GMT
That last post ^^^^ is rather like reading the rantings of a Flat Earther or a Kubrick Moon Landing Fanatic... Pointless to try to explain where the errors in "thinking" are and best to just watch and laugh and try to stay out of the glare off of the tin-foil hat!
"New Format", "brutal treatment", "Cuban dictator", Bob Hope himself (apparently scriptless) leaping to Lucy's defense against the odious Ricky …. as sns would undoubtedly say "OY!"
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Post by BATouttaheck on Oct 11, 2018 3:23:45 GMT
I have been listening to Lucille Ball's Radio program My Favorite Husband.,
The stories are not all that different from those on I Love Lucy. She is constantly scheming to get something that her husband says she cannot have. No Fred and Ethel and no Cuban accent but the Lucy spirit and chicanery are all there !
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Post by snsurone on Feb 18, 2019 11:51:53 GMT
For some reason, Hallmark Channel seems to have cancelled ILL. It ran from 5:00-8:00 ET. Its been replaced by those goofy Hallmark movies, complete with ZILLIONS of commercials!
Now, please don't blame me! :-)
EDIT: I stand corrected. ILL is back on Hallmark. I had forgotten that yesterday was a federal holiday. It's one of those that only means a day off from school and work, plus retail outlets holding big sales.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Feb 18, 2019 16:19:20 GMT
For some reason, Hallmark Channel seems to have cancelled ILL. It ran from 5:00-8:00 ET. Its been replaced by those goofy Hallmark movies, complete with ZILLIONS of commercials! Why the cancellation of I Love Lucy should bother you is a mystery.... all you do is complain about it. AT LEAST YOU WILL STILL HAVE SOMETHING TO COME TO IMDB AND BITCH ABOUT since you also hate the Hallmark "movies" !
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Post by snsurone on Aug 11, 2019 12:38:11 GMT
ILL is no longer on Hallmark. For some reason, the network dropped the show from its morning lineup, replacing it with a mediocrity called THE MIDDLE, starring Patricia Heaton (formerly from EVERYONE LOVES RAYMOND).
Is it possible that others were sick of Ricky's despotism and complained to Hallmark? We may never know for sure.
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Post by bess1971s on Sept 16, 2019 18:43:32 GMT
Lucy was back on this morning. I daresay Hallmark must have been getting a lot of flak from the fans. I accept Lucy for what it was. A sitcom that was pretty funny but like all shows, it had a few flaws.
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