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Post by egon1982 on Oct 7, 2017 9:04:47 GMT
It use to be the Director's cut but now it's the Final Cut.
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Post by egon1982 on Oct 21, 2017 18:11:37 GMT
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Post by ck100 on Oct 21, 2017 19:12:42 GMT
Final Cut.
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Post by alpha128 on Oct 22, 2017 15:29:29 GMT
I've seen the U.S. Theatrical Cut, the International Cut, and the Director's Cut. I have not seen the Final Cut. My favorite version is the U.S. Theatrical Cut. There, I said it. Yes, I like the voice over narration and the "happy ending". The extra violent scenes in the International Cut were not necessary, although I prefer them to the unicorn dream. I like the U.S. Theatrical Cut and the International Cut because I think it's important that Deckard is a human in the film. In those original cuts, he is one. We see Deckard, a human, collect photographs. We see Leon, a replicant, also collects photographs. Therefore the message of the movie is that the replicants are just like the humans, just like us. If you change Deckard to a replicant, then the message of the movie becomes "all replicants neurotically collect photographs". I still think that Deckard is human. He is clearly physically inferior to the replicants in the first film in every cut I've seen. He clearly lacks the replicants' resistance to extreme temperatures, and their physical strength. I was glad to see Deckard's physical inferiority carried over to the sequel. There's a scene where Deckard savagely beats on K, and K is unaffected, almost amused. And later when the two try to escape, Deckard runs through the doorway, while K runs through the wall. In conclusion, I suspect all this seven versions nonsense was a contributing factor to the box office failure of the sequel. The other big one was BR 2049's length. Three hours in the cinema is daunting enough to a general filmgoer. And to also expect them to not only watch the original film beforehand, but to potentially watch multiple cuts beforehand, was almost certainly a non-starter for a general audience.
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Post by ironjade on Oct 22, 2017 16:40:00 GMT
The original theatrical cut. The voiceover/ narration is perfectly in keeping with the noir feel of the movie and I fail to see why almost everyone else hates it. I can live with the various script/continuity errors and the upbeat ending. The only thing which really cried out for revision was the stuntwoman who looked nothing like Joanna Cassidy and was obvious even during my first viewing in 1982.
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Post by alpha128 on Oct 22, 2017 17:14:32 GMT
The voiceover/ narration is perfectly in keeping with the noir feel of the movie and I fail to see why everyone hates it. I don't hate it as I've already indicated in this thread.
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Post by ironjade on Oct 22, 2017 20:20:10 GMT
I think Deckard is human because he's clearly been in the Police Dept. for a long time, people know him and have a history with him. This wouldn't be the case if he were a replicant with a 4 year lifespan. I could accept his being a replicant if the androids were exact copies of actual human beings but this does not seem to be the case and the movie never says otherwise.
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Post by alpha128 on Oct 22, 2017 20:31:29 GMT
I think Deckard is human because he's clearly been in the Police Dept. for a long time, people know him and have a history with him. This wouldn't be the case if he were a replicant with a 4 year lifespan. Even if one argues that he is like Rachel with no set termination date, he is still clearly physically inferior to the replicants he's hunting.
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Post by egon1982 on Oct 26, 2017 8:27:44 GMT
I've seen the U.S. Theatrical Cut, the International Cut, and the Director's Cut. I have not seen the Final Cut. My favorite version is the U.S. Theatrical Cut. There, I said it. Yes, I like the voice over narration and the "happy ending". The extra violent scenes in the International Cut were not necessary, although I prefer them to the unicorn dream. I like the U.S. Theatrical Cut and the International Cut because I think it's important that Deckard is a human in the film. In those original cuts, he is one. We see Deckard, a human, collect photographs. We see Leon, a replicant, also collects photographs. Therefore the message of the movie is that the replicants are just like the humans, just like us. If you change Deckard to a replicant, then the message of the movie becomes "all replicants neurotically collect photographs". I still think that Deckard is human. He is clearly physically inferior to the replicants in the first film in every cut I've seen. He clearly lacks the replicants' resistance to extreme temperatures, and their physical strength. I was glad to see Deckard's physical inferiority carried over to the sequel. There's a scene where Deckard savagely beats on K, and K is unaffected, almost amused. And later when the two try to escape, Deckard runs through the doorway, while K runs through the wall. In conclusion, I suspect all this seven versions nonsense was a contributing factor to the box office failure of the sequel. The other big one was BR 2049's length. Three hours in the cinema is daunting enough to a general filmgoer. And to also expect them to not only watch the original film beforehand, but to potentially watch multiple cuts beforehand, was almost certainly a non-starter for a general audience. See the Final Cut, it's great and works on blu-ray very well
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Post by alpha128 on Oct 26, 2017 11:24:58 GMT
I've seen the U.S. Theatrical Cut, the International Cut, and the Director's Cut. I have not seen the Final Cut. My favorite version is the U.S. Theatrical Cut. See the Final Cut, it's great and works on blu-ray very well If I get a chance, I'll check it out. I attend a science fiction marathon every year in January, so I wouldn't be surprised if some cut of "Blade Runner" was on the schedule next year.
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Post by egon1982 on Oct 26, 2017 23:05:58 GMT
You won't be disappointed in the final cut
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Post by hi224 on Oct 26, 2017 23:50:24 GMT
Easily has to be final cut as well.
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Post by egon1982 on Oct 27, 2017 5:05:07 GMT
Easily has to be final cut as well. It looks flawless on blu-ray eh?
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Nov 2, 2017 4:22:28 GMT
The Final Cut
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 21, 2018 5:10:38 GMT
Final Cut
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Post by OldSamVimes on May 23, 2018 8:14:32 GMT
I will have to watch the 'Final Cut'.
I have the directors cut version with no narration, and I don't like it as much as the older version.
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Post by Karl Aksel on Nov 7, 2018 14:55:48 GMT
The shortest cut. One of the most boring films I ever saw. Watched it once some 20 years ago, found it to be a bore-fest beyond compare. 20 years on, I figured - "couldn't really have been that bad, could it?" Tried to watch it three times, but I just kept falling asleep.
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Post by egon1982 on Nov 9, 2018 3:01:51 GMT
The shortest cut. One of the most boring films I ever saw. Watched it once some 20 years ago, found it to be a bore-fest beyond compare. 20 years on, I figured - "couldn't really have been that bad, could it?" Tried to watch it three times, but I just kept falling asleep. Name a better futuristic sci-fi film?
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