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Post by stefancrosscoe on Oct 12, 2017 12:52:26 GMT
Although not horror, The Terminator definitely had some horror elements, being chased relentlessly by an unstoppable killer and nuclear annihilation. The first viewing was so intense, it kept coming, just when you thought it was dead! It's got it's flesh burned off...and kept coming! And those evil red robotic eyes... Yeah, those eyes are truly the stuff of nightmares. Pure evil and when some people complain that the metallic endoskeleton at the end, looks "dated" and should be re-done with todays CGI, I just shake my head in disbelief. That is exactly what makes that terrifying machine so scary and menacing, it is not meant to be "perfectly" human like, and the whole stop-motion Frankenstein walk it does, when chasing Sarah and Kyle into the factory, along with the creepy sounds and the close-ups of its red, beaming and soulless eyes, it is amazing to see how Jim and his crew made that back in 1984, when looking at all the terrible and non-frightening "attempts" which have been done with some of the sequels, and they just cannot seem to find back to the sheer terror of the first two movies, and no amount of CGI have come close of recreating the first and original T-101 model.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 12, 2017 12:56:01 GMT
I love Tarman, he seems so genuinely happy to be out and eating brains again. The Return of the Living Dead is one of my all time favorites, had it on VHS in the 80's and watched it endlessly. Another scene that I never forgot and always remember when watching other zombie movies is this one that they capture and interview. She explains that they eat brains because it eases "the pain...the pain of being dead!" Tarman was well utilized and interesting creation, as he was a funny looking zombie, that was still frightening for the characters. The half decayed and also half zombie woman was also a very effective creation, and one of the best zombies I have still seen in a zombie film. It was quite a potent sequence. I recall when seeing this for the second time at the cinema when Return was first released, this dude ran straight down the aisle and out into the foyer. It must have distressed him or made him feel sick. He got more laughs from the audience than the movie. Kind of weird how these zombies can talk, never really gave that much thought till now, usually they just shuffle along and grunt.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Oct 12, 2017 13:01:19 GMT
I love Tarman, he seems so genuinely happy to be out and eating brains again. The Return of the Living Dead is one of my all time favorites, had it on VHS in the 80's and watched it endlessly. Another scene that I never forgot and always remember when watching other zombie movies is this one that they capture and interview. She explains that they eat brains because it eases "the pain...the pain of being dead!" I wished I had seen the funny side of Tarman back when I was 8-9 years old, but the one that showed up in some of the other sequels that followed was more goofy looking thant scary, and I think I even saw him trying to succeed as an hitch-hiker in his last appearence of Return of the Living Dead saga. Agree, that old witch and her telling the surviving gang of their one goal in life, did not exactly put a boost to an already desperate situation, and it was scary back when I first saw it. Oh, I almsot forgot, another frightening figure was the corpse dressed in plastic, hanging on some meat hook in a freezer. That bastard was fast as hell, and I was jumping from my seat the moment he first decided to appear.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 12, 2017 13:09:07 GMT
stefancrosscoe , TROTLD is a classic, I didn't mind the first sequel too much, although it was odd that they recast some of the actors from the first movie in different parts. The other sequels, especially the ones made in Romania or wherever, we're not worthy of the original.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 12, 2017 13:18:08 GMT
Self explanatory really. So simple yet so horrifying. I never understood the people that didn't like that movie. I remember two teenage girls behind me at the theater were all "That's it? So stupid!" Meanwhile, I was afraid to move! For me, the structure of the story didn't work, including that the second half is clearly improvised, but not improvised very well in my opinion . . . which is connected to feeling that the acting is poor, plus I hate that style of cinematography, and the lack of music, more elaborate sets/locations, etc. doesn't help, either. Some of the improvised ideas I also found frustrating, because they were so arbitrary/not very well thought out. I don't expect realism from films (in fact, I hate when people do expect it), but I expect things in films to make some sense in the context of that film's fictional world. So these three people being such imbeciles about being lost in the woods is an example of something frustrating to me. It also doesn't help that I don't find horror films scary. I love horror films, but "scariness" isn't my attraction to them. I like the dark subject matter, the atmosphere that horror films (can) create, the macabre fantasy of them, etc. I'm rather aesthetically attracted to all of that. And I'm someone who usually sees horror "villains" more as anti-heroes. I'm really rooting for Dracula in a way. Well, Blair Witch Project doesn't create much atmosphere for me--because of the crappy cinematography, the poorly-chosen locations, the lack of music, the lack of well-designed lighting, etc., and it doesn't show us much except some people who can't act playing "lost in the woods" and trying to act scared at some stuff we either don't see or can't see very well. For people who see realism as a normative, and who read the unprofessionally-shot-on-a-video-camera shtick as "real," and for people who can be scared by films and who find the unknown scarier, I can see an attraction to the film. But those things couldn't be further afield from what I'm looking for from (horror) films.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 12, 2017 13:26:37 GMT
Terrapin StationI see what you're saying, the running in the dark and the screaming, it could be seen as bad filler. I actually watched a "documentary" on SyFy around the time of the movie's release that was far spookier than the movie itself, gave me heebie-jeebies, would rather see that again. It played with the idea that the town of Blair was real and they interviewed locals and told more back story for the witch.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Oct 12, 2017 13:44:48 GMT
Yeah, the whole "it's real" shtick didn't play for me, partially because I don't care about realism whenit comes to films, partially because I don't believe that any "supernatural" horror stuff can be real (I'm a pretty hardcore skeptic, but I enjoy fantasy), plus I know that any mass murder, serial killer, etc. stuff isn't going to be filmed and now playing in a theater near you, but also because that style of filmmaking doesn't seem real to me.
Instead it seems highly affected and too often (not just with Blair Witch) poorly acted to me. That whole camera style in general, which unfortunately has been done in tens and tens of other films, comes across as very artificial and gimmicky to me, because directors go out of their way to exaggerate it, so that it would only seem "real" if we were talking about a situation where an epileptic with no conception of how a camera works/what it's supposed to do is shooting the footage. It's really not that difficult to hold a camera relatively steady. Playing along with pretending that the style is more "real" feels to me like going along with some smarmy salesman, telemarketer or conman trying to sell you a load of bs. I'd rather have artifice that embraces that it's artifice and that thus shows us highly imaginative, fantastical things in a way that's highly stylized visually etc.
So I'm not a fan of that subgenre in general, although there have been a handful of films in that style that I've liked a lot, despite the fact that they were done in that style. For some reason it's worked a bit better for me with films with a SciFi angle. I liked Super 8 a lot, as well as Chronicle and Project Almanac.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 12, 2017 14:19:01 GMT
Toasted CheeseIt really was a morbid little movie, beneath the humor. The ending should have prevented any sequels at all, and yet...
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 12, 2017 15:54:40 GMT
[/quote]They showed us this cartoon of The Legend of Sleepy Hollow in the 6th grade, I was afraid to walk home, not yet exposed to much horror, in fact, I avoided it as much as possible until I was 12 or 13.
Yeah, that short was one of the things that made me gravitate toward horror films and horror stories. It's extremely atmospheric, and engaging, and although it's smaller and cheaper than the Disney animated features, it is beautifully stylized. I also, later read the original story as a young kid. It was probably the first piece of sort of quality 'grown up literature I ever read, and I have always loved this material since.
I see that the other photo you used is from the TV show, which I have not really seen. I gave up after two episodes because it just seemed so dumb. But the Tim Burton movie is, to me, just about the greatest old fashioned horror movie ever made. It's such a great throwback. It's Burton at his stylish best, and the Danny Elfman score is about as amazing as the lush Emanuelle Lubezki cinematography. It very much evokes the style and feeling of the Disney version at times too.
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Post by novastar6 on Oct 12, 2017 16:36:26 GMT
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Post by Marv on Oct 12, 2017 19:08:35 GMT
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Post by Marv on Oct 12, 2017 19:11:56 GMT
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Post by kingkoopa on Oct 13, 2017 3:07:40 GMT
I can't put my finger on why, but this performance makes my skin crawl to this day.
Runner up has to be Chucky in "Child's Play 2" when he threatens to cut Andy's legs off. Brad Dourif has the gift of a horrifying voice, but something about this line still gives me chills.
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Post by novastar6 on Oct 13, 2017 4:53:07 GMT
I can't put my finger on why, but this performance makes my skin crawl to this day. Runner up has to be Chucky in "Child's Play 2" when he threatens to cut Andy's legs off. Brad Dourif has the gift of a horrifying voice, but something about this line still gives me chills. Oh yes, Zelda. Don't ever watch that movie at Halloween, and then carve a pumpkin, you'll notice a distinct resemblance to the stringy pumpkin innards clinging to the pumpkin wall, and her spine.
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 15, 2017 18:33:18 GMT
Lebowskidoo 🦞 et al. OK, a few: [MILD SPOILERS] I wanted the "cupboard under the stairs" image from Ghostwatch but couldn't find it online, so I'll make do with this: Ghostwatch is one great little movie (if you can call it a movie--telefilm? "Mockumentary"? TV event?). I think it succeeds at what the makers of The Blair Witch Project tried and failed to do (that evocative final image notwithstanding). Here's Pipes for you--now that I think of it, Ghostwatch becomes even more intriguing on repeated viewings; I particularly love the fact that Mr. Volk and Miss Manning don't tell you everything about this scenario, letting your mind play even more tricks about what the reason is for the haunting... Marvellous stuff. There's never been a US release, VHS or DVD, unfortunately. The only jump scare in The Haunting, one that gets me every time, and not even involving a ghost. Great stuff. While I'm usually the biggest supporter for not showing the ghost, The Uninvited ('44) has this very creepy and skin-crawling little revenant. Perhaps not a horror film, but utterly terrifying. I can add a few more, perhaps, as I remember them, but I suppose from these you can deduce my prejudices regarding horror films (i.e., not many "slashers" or anything of that ilk!)...
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Post by mszanadu on Oct 16, 2017 22:30:35 GMT
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Post by rateater on Oct 16, 2017 23:23:13 GMT
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Post by gbone on Oct 17, 2017 1:04:50 GMT
Lake Mungo. 2008. If you’ve seen it you know the scene. Girl comes face to face with her future corpse. A slow far away phone camera footage slowly gets closer and closer.
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Post by mszanadu on Oct 17, 2017 1:18:45 GMT
That's most definitely a " WHOA Moment Scene " there rateater . Which film is this scene from ?
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Post by mszanadu on Oct 17, 2017 1:27:54 GMT
Unless (like me) you obviously have been living in a cave and have no idea what movie it's from It's from this film Bat Outtaheck and if you have not seen it at all I do recommend it too . The Blair Witch Project (1999)
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