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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 21, 2017 3:51:34 GMT
Beh, X-Force sucked. They were always the worst excesses of 90s comics. I blame mostly Rob Liefield's artwork for that. His writing isn't any better. Remember, the artists in those days were the ones plotting the stories and the writers only did the dialogue.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 21, 2017 5:02:04 GMT
I blame mostly Rob Liefield's artwork for that. His writing isn't any better. Remember, the artists in those days were the ones plotting the stories and the writers only did the dialogue. He was the absolute worst.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 21, 2017 5:51:07 GMT
His writing isn't any better. Remember, the artists in those days were the ones plotting the stories and the writers only did the dialogue. He was the absolute worst. There are hundreds of YouTube vids and articles about how bad he is. There are also a lot of articles and vids about how he copied from other comic book artists. But really there a lot of them that do that, too.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 21, 2017 9:25:50 GMT
formersamhmd thinks X-force sucks but never read one single issue, the same way they have never read a single issue of comics. gotta love this MCU crazy fans no wonder you all sign up to the generic disney nonsense way of doing things.. the irony of x-force is that they even have less of a chance of fitting in the mcu more than x-men because they use a gritter approach and are more of a pre-emptive strike team. This new mutants is not the current version of this x-force since there is an xforce movie coming out in 2019-2020, that might be the version Liefeld's is all over and he should be, afterall he created Deadpool, Domino and Cable...maybe the 3 most important members of X-force. No, others created Deadpool, Domino and Cable. He was just the 1st to draw them. Liefeld's version is a rip-off of Deathstroke. The one in the Deadpool movie that was a big hit? That one came about after Liefeld left Marvel. Cable didn't become the son of Cyclops and Madelyne Pryor until after Liefeld left Marvel. Also, Liefeld's X-Force did suck. Liefeld sucks. Oh and "Blah blah blah, I have to make an excuse by bringing in the MCU." Claremont created Nathan Summers. Liefeld co-created Cable, Domino and Deadpool en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpoolen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_(comics)Liefeld and Fabian Nicieza created Deadpool and Domino. when you said NO, that was bs. This is about creation right? not when one writer leaves and another writer comes in and takes the character into a different direction. Liefeld was a writer and drawer. You got that all mixed up or did you just on purpose say more bs. well here is the correct thing to wash away the bs for others here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Liefeld#Art_styleen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Liefeld#Creator_creditAm not the biggest fan of Liefeld but I don't need to discredit his work at 100%. Looks like MCU fans and the discredit tactics is more than just the xmen movies huh? And please don't give me the blah, blah, blah about the MCU. it was you MCU fans that started this flame and brought mcu here in the first place, all I did was just say the truth about MCU and X-Men and why MCU has no business making X-Men movies by telling others here what makes X-Men so different and high above the rest of the marvel mcu universe. Was that a hard pill to swallow. If people think Logan destroyed all the MCU movies , oh...that X-force movie is gonna blow the rest away especially if they go the Tarantino influenced directorial style. I think I once said it here already that the X-force film would become the comic film version of Inglorious Bastards. If you were a huge comic fan before the disney MCU generic way of doing things, you should be excited like me.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 21, 2017 10:28:02 GMT
Liefeld's original version of Cable, Domino and Deadpool all sucked. They didn't become decent or memorable characters until AFTER him.
And no, the MCU fans didn't start this. XCU fans were the ones who threw the first punch.
Logan didn't destroy anything, it just got its reception because it was Jackman's swan song and people went easy on it due to that. Without that, it's a mediocre film while MCU continues to innovate and grow.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 21, 2017 15:22:26 GMT
No, others created Deadpool, Domino and Cable. He was just the 1st to draw them. Liefeld's version is a rip-off of Deathstroke. The one in the Deadpool movie that was a big hit? That one came about after Liefeld left Marvel. Cable didn't become the son of Cyclops and Madelyne Pryor until after Liefeld left Marvel. Also, Liefeld's X-Force did suck. Liefeld sucks. Oh and "Blah blah blah, I have to make an excuse by bringing in the MCU." Claremont created Nathan Summers. Liefeld co-created Cable, Domino and Deadpool en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpoolen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_(comics)Liefeld and Fabian Nicieza created Deadpool and Domino. when you said NO, that was bs. This is about creation right? not when one writer leaves and another writer comes in and takes the character into a different direction. Liefeld was a writer and drawer. You got that all mixed up or did you just on purpose say more bs. well here is the correct thing to wash away the bs for others here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Liefeld#Art_styleen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Liefeld#Creator_creditAm not the biggest fan of Liefeld but I don't need to discredit his work at 100%. Looks like MCU fans and the discredit tactics is more than just the xmen movies huh? And please don't give me the blah, blah, blah about the MCU. it was you MCU fans that started this flame and brought mcu here in the first place, all I did was just say the truth about MCU and X-Men and why MCU has no business making X-Men movies by telling others here what makes X-Men so different and high above the rest of the marvel mcu universe. Was that a hard pill to swallow. If people think Logan destroyed all the MCU movies , oh...that X-force movie is gonna blow the rest away especially if they go the Tarantino influenced directorial style. I think I once said it here already that the X-force film would become the comic film version of Inglorious Bastards. If you were a huge comic fan before the disney MCU generic way of doing things, you should be excited like me. Fabian is famous for saying that all Liefeld did was change the 1st name of Deathstroke from Slade to Wade. Also, let's look at how Liefeld came up with the name Deadpool. Deathstroke... Deadpool. Death... Dead... What do you do in a pool? The stroke. And when I said others created those characters, what I'm saying is that others made them to what they are known to be. And their most popular form. Liefeld's version of Deadpool was a clone of Deathstroke and Spider-man (his admission). He wasn't the Merc with a Mouth yet. Cable was just an old soldier from the future when Liefeld had him. He became Nathan Summers after Liefeld left Marvel in Cable's own series. Something Liefeld had nothing to do with. Discredit his work? He stole from others! Looking through this thread, you were the first person to mention the MCU. Everyone here was talking about the trailer. You are the one that keeps bringing up the MCU. And this is the thing, why do you guys need to constantly compare X-men/DC to the MCU? Superiority complex? The MCU is the most popular franchise out of the 3. Okay. But nobody except you guys discredit the other. None of the, so-called, "MCU fans" bring up the the MCU to compare to the other movies to bring them down. Every time you guys try to say how good the X-men and DC movies are you have to say something about it being better than the MCU. Here's a test: try to say why the X-men movies are good without comparing it to the MCU. And no backhanded comments while trying not to say the letters MCU. Logan was forgotten. It was good in the months after it, but people have moved on. GotG2 still made bank and people moved on. Spider-man Homecoming still made bank and people moved on. Even Wonder Woman made bank and... No, like Logan, the DC fans are clutching that one. Logan destroyed nothing. When did I say I wasn't going to see it? I think the only major CBMs I didn't see in theaters are First Class and Suicide Squad. Glad on Suicide Squad, but First Class kinda hurt cause I didn't have the time and missed its run.
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Post by summers8 on Oct 21, 2017 16:33:16 GMT
Claremont created Nathan Summers. Liefeld co-created Cable, Domino and Deadpool en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpoolen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_(comics)Liefeld and Fabian Nicieza created Deadpool and Domino. when you said NO, that was bs. This is about creation right? not when one writer leaves and another writer comes in and takes the character into a different direction. Liefeld was a writer and drawer. You got that all mixed up or did you just on purpose say more bs. well here is the correct thing to wash away the bs for others here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Liefeld#Art_styleen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Liefeld#Creator_creditAm not the biggest fan of Liefeld but I don't need to discredit his work at 100%. Looks like MCU fans and the discredit tactics is more than just the xmen movies huh? And please don't give me the blah, blah, blah about the MCU. it was you MCU fans that started this flame and brought mcu here in the first place, all I did was just say the truth about MCU and X-Men and why MCU has no business making X-Men movies by telling others here what makes X-Men so different and high above the rest of the marvel mcu universe. Was that a hard pill to swallow. If people think Logan destroyed all the MCU movies , oh...that X-force movie is gonna blow the rest away especially if they go the Tarantino influenced directorial style. I think I once said it here already that the X-force film would become the comic film version of Inglorious Bastards. If you were a huge comic fan before the disney MCU generic way of doing things, you should be excited like me. Fabian is famous for saying that all Liefeld did was change the 1st name of Deathstroke from Slade to Wade. Also, let's look at how Liefeld came up with the name Deadpool. Deathstroke... Deadpool. Death... Dead... What do you do in a pool? The stroke. And when I said others created those characters, what I'm saying is that others made them to what they are known to be. And their most popular form. Liefeld's version of Deadpool was a clone of Deathstroke and Spider-man (his admission). He wasn't the Merc with a Mouth yet. Cable was just an old soldier from the future when Liefeld had him. He became Nathan Summers after Liefeld left Marvel in Cable's own series. Something Liefeld had nothing to do with. Discredit his work? He stole from others! Looking through this thread, you were the first person to mention the MCU. Everyone here was talking about the trailer. You are the one that keeps bringing up the MCU. And this is the thing, why do you guys need to constantly compare X-men/DC to the MCU? Superiority complex? The MCU is the most popular franchise out of the 3. Okay. But nobody except you guys discredit the other. None of the, so-called, "MCU fans" bring up the the MCU to compare to the other movies to bring them down. Every time you guys try to say how good the X-men and DC movies are you have to say something about it being better than the MCU. Here's a test: try to say why the X-men movies are good without comparing it to the MCU. And no backhanded comments while trying not to say the letters MCU. Logan was forgotten. It was good in the months after it, but people have moved on. GotG2 still made bank and people moved on. Spider-man Homecoming still made bank and people moved on. Even Wonder Woman made bank and... No, like Logan, the DC fans are clutching that one. Logan destroyed nothing. When did I say I wasn't going to see it? I think the only major CBMs I didn't see in theaters are First Class and Suicide Squad. Glad on Suicide Squad, but First Class kinda hurt cause I didn't have the time and missed its run. And deadpool is still not deathstroke both characters are separate owned by marvel and dc. Rob created deadpool from deathstroke , he admitted it. so I won't say it is stealing. Next time , don’t say 1 on purpose when you mean 11. Do that in school, you fail and repeat a year. Shall I make it simpler, I have too, since mcu fans love simple and grade school type of teaching? Liefeld birthed these characters, other people raised them. They are not the same and don’t mean the same thing at all. Get it now? Everyone is talking of the trailer including MCU fans and we know how MCU fans approach everything not MCU especially X-Men because they still think xmen can join the mcu.. I don’t play games, I rather just get to the point. As you can see it was only when i replied to you i brought up mcu, i don’t bring up mcu when i talk to others, I only bring up mcu when mcu fans come to xmen boards because they are here for the MCU. Yep, Logan was forgotten but you ‘loved it’’. we remember the things we love always. MCU fans are so transparent,please you know you hate Logan with a passion, who are you trying to deceive you or me. We don't forget great movies that transcend their genre, GOTG and Homecoming are the movies that have been forgotten because it was just another mcu generic formulaic movie(s) in the long list of other mcu generic formulaic movies. Please don’t mention logan in the same category as Homecoming and GOTG 2. its too much of a disrespect to Logan, comic book fans, the genre and hard working people that think deeper than what a stereotypical comic film should be.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 21, 2017 17:00:25 GMT
Fabian is famous for saying that all Liefeld did was change the 1st name of Deathstroke from Slade to Wade. Also, let's look at how Liefeld came up with the name Deadpool. Deathstroke... Deadpool. Death... Dead... What do you do in a pool? The stroke. And when I said others created those characters, what I'm saying is that others made them to what they are known to be. And their most popular form. Liefeld's version of Deadpool was a clone of Deathstroke and Spider-man (his admission). He wasn't the Merc with a Mouth yet. Cable was just an old soldier from the future when Liefeld had him. He became Nathan Summers after Liefeld left Marvel in Cable's own series. Something Liefeld had nothing to do with. Discredit his work? He stole from others! Looking through this thread, you were the first person to mention the MCU. Everyone here was talking about the trailer. You are the one that keeps bringing up the MCU. And this is the thing, why do you guys need to constantly compare X-men/DC to the MCU? Superiority complex? The MCU is the most popular franchise out of the 3. Okay. But nobody except you guys discredit the other. None of the, so-called, "MCU fans" bring up the the MCU to compare to the other movies to bring them down. Every time you guys try to say how good the X-men and DC movies are you have to say something about it being better than the MCU. Here's a test: try to say why the X-men movies are good without comparing it to the MCU. And no backhanded comments while trying not to say the letters MCU. Logan was forgotten. It was good in the months after it, but people have moved on. GotG2 still made bank and people moved on. Spider-man Homecoming still made bank and people moved on. Even Wonder Woman made bank and... No, like Logan, the DC fans are clutching that one. Logan destroyed nothing. When did I say I wasn't going to see it? I think the only major CBMs I didn't see in theaters are First Class and Suicide Squad. Glad on Suicide Squad, but First Class kinda hurt cause I didn't have the time and missed its run. And deadpool is still not deathstroke both characters are separate owned by marvel and dc. Rob created deadpool from deathstroke , he admitted it. so I won't say it is stealing. Next time , don’t say 1 on purpose when you mean 11. Do that in school, you fail and repeat a year. Shall I make it simpler, I have too, since mcu fans love simple and grade school type of teaching? Liefeld birthed these characters, other people raised them. They are not the same and don’t mean the same thing at all. Get it now? Everyone is talking of the trailer including MCU fans and we know how MCU fans approach everything not MCU especially X-Men because they still think xmen can join the mcu.. I don’t play games, I rather just get to the point. As you can see it was only when i replied to you i brought up mcu, i don’t bring up mcu when i talk to others, I only bring up mcu when mcu fans come to xmen boards because they are here for the MCU. Yep, Logan was forgotten but you ‘loved it’’. we remember the things we love always. MCU fans are so transparent,please you know you hate Logan with a passion, who are you trying to deceive you or me. We don't forget great movies that transcend their genre, GOTG and Homecoming are the movies that have been forgotten because it was just another mcu generic formulaic movie(s) in the long list of other mcu generic formulaic movies. Please don’t mention logan in the same category as Homecoming and GOTG 2. its too much of a disrespect to Logan, comic book fans, the genre and hard working people that think deeper than what a stereotypical comic film should be. It is stealing, just someone admitting to it. Deadpool's personality is closer to a rip-off of the Mask anyways.
Liefeld made garbage, and it was others who turned from garbage into something halfway decent.
Logan was overrated. GOTG and SMH are both great films that did wonders for how D-Listers can be made gold and how Spidey can be made authentic after over a decade of only getting it partway right. The MCU continues to define CBMs.
Logan only had Jackman's Swan Song going for it. Without that it can't compare to those films.
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Post by ThatGuy on Oct 21, 2017 17:56:05 GMT
Fabian is famous for saying that all Liefeld did was change the 1st name of Deathstroke from Slade to Wade. Also, let's look at how Liefeld came up with the name Deadpool. Deathstroke... Deadpool. Death... Dead... What do you do in a pool? The stroke. And when I said others created those characters, what I'm saying is that others made them to what they are known to be. And their most popular form. Liefeld's version of Deadpool was a clone of Deathstroke and Spider-man (his admission). He wasn't the Merc with a Mouth yet. Cable was just an old soldier from the future when Liefeld had him. He became Nathan Summers after Liefeld left Marvel in Cable's own series. Something Liefeld had nothing to do with. Discredit his work? He stole from others! Looking through this thread, you were the first person to mention the MCU. Everyone here was talking about the trailer. You are the one that keeps bringing up the MCU. And this is the thing, why do you guys need to constantly compare X-men/DC to the MCU? Superiority complex? The MCU is the most popular franchise out of the 3. Okay. But nobody except you guys discredit the other. None of the, so-called, "MCU fans" bring up the the MCU to compare to the other movies to bring them down. Every time you guys try to say how good the X-men and DC movies are you have to say something about it being better than the MCU. Here's a test: try to say why the X-men movies are good without comparing it to the MCU. And no backhanded comments while trying not to say the letters MCU. Logan was forgotten. It was good in the months after it, but people have moved on. GotG2 still made bank and people moved on. Spider-man Homecoming still made bank and people moved on. Even Wonder Woman made bank and... No, like Logan, the DC fans are clutching that one. Logan destroyed nothing. When did I say I wasn't going to see it? I think the only major CBMs I didn't see in theaters are First Class and Suicide Squad. Glad on Suicide Squad, but First Class kinda hurt cause I didn't have the time and missed its run. And deadpool is still not deathstroke both characters are separate owned by marvel and dc. Rob created deadpool from deathstroke , he admitted it. so I won't say it is stealing. Next time , don’t say 1 on purpose when you mean 11. Do that in school, you fail and repeat a year. Shall I make it simpler, I have too, since mcu fans love simple and grade school type of teaching? Liefeld birthed these characters, other people raised them. They are not the same and don’t mean the same thing at all. Get it now? Everyone is talking of the trailer including MCU fans and we know how MCU fans approach everything not MCU especially X-Men because they still think xmen can join the mcu.. I don’t play games, I rather just get to the point. As you can see it was only when i replied to you i brought up mcu, i don’t bring up mcu when i talk to others, I only bring up mcu when mcu fans come to xmen boards because they are here for the MCU. Yep, Logan was forgotten but you ‘loved it’’. we remember the things we love always. MCU fans are so transparent,please you know you hate Logan with a passion, who are you trying to deceive you or me. We don't forget great movies that transcend their genre, GOTG and Homecoming are the movies that have been forgotten because it was just another mcu generic formulaic movie(s) in the long list of other mcu generic formulaic movies. Please don’t mention logan in the same category as Homecoming and GOTG 2. its too much of a disrespect to Logan, comic book fans, the genre and hard working people that think deeper than what a stereotypical comic film should be. What Liefeld did was kidnap some kids and changed their names. Passing them off as his own. And so if I go and rob a bank and then admit to robbing the bank, I didn't steal from the bank? "Next time , don’t say 1 on purpose when you mean 11. Do that in school, you fail and repeat a year." No clue what this even means. I'm trying to find where I said 1. And that's only in your head. No one thinks of the MCU when it comes to other stuff unless it is brought up. Paranoid much, kid? And it's funny how I said 4 movies that has come about and is forgotten, half of which are MCU and a 3rd that is DC. Now if I said how DoFP and Apocalypse will also be forgotten that would be different. Wouldn't it? There are lots of movies that I liked that I have forgotten about. Yes, you are real paranoid. Looking at this post your hate is what is showing.
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Post by formersamhmd on Oct 21, 2017 18:48:19 GMT
And deadpool is still not deathstroke both characters are separate owned by marvel and dc. Rob created deadpool from deathstroke , he admitted it. so I won't say it is stealing. Next time , don’t say 1 on purpose when you mean 11. Do that in school, you fail and repeat a year. Shall I make it simpler, I have too, since mcu fans love simple and grade school type of teaching? Liefeld birthed these characters, other people raised them. They are not the same and don’t mean the same thing at all. Get it now? Everyone is talking of the trailer including MCU fans and we know how MCU fans approach everything not MCU especially X-Men because they still think xmen can join the mcu.. I don’t play games, I rather just get to the point. As you can see it was only when i replied to you i brought up mcu, i don’t bring up mcu when i talk to others, I only bring up mcu when mcu fans come to xmen boards because they are here for the MCU. Yep, Logan was forgotten but you ‘loved it’’. we remember the things we love always. MCU fans are so transparent,please you know you hate Logan with a passion, who are you trying to deceive you or me. We don't forget great movies that transcend their genre, GOTG and Homecoming are the movies that have been forgotten because it was just another mcu generic formulaic movie(s) in the long list of other mcu generic formulaic movies. Please don’t mention logan in the same category as Homecoming and GOTG 2. its too much of a disrespect to Logan, comic book fans, the genre and hard working people that think deeper than what a stereotypical comic film should be. What Liefeld did was kidnap some kids and changed their names. Passing them off as his own. And so if I go and rob a bank and then admit to robbing the bank, I didn't steal from the bank? "Next time , don’t say 1 on purpose when you mean 11. Do that in school, you fail and repeat a year." No clue what this even means. I'm trying to find where I said 1. And that's only in your head. No one thinks of the MCU when it comes to other stuff unless it is brought up. Paranoid much, kid? And it's funny how I said 4 movies that has come about and is forgotten, half of which are MCU and a 3rd that is DC. Now if I said how DoFP and Apocalypse will also be forgotten that would be different. Wouldn't it? There are lots of movies that I liked that I have forgotten about. Yes, you are real paranoid. Looking at this post your hate is what is showing. Since he's blocked me, suppose you can copy and paste stuff I post just so he has to see it?
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Post by lukelovesfilm34 on Nov 3, 2017 6:50:01 GMT
I don't care what you people say. I'm intrigued. B-movie?? Really? What makes a B-movie in your mind? A horror movie by default?? That's ignorant. This is a really cool new tone for a superhero movie. It doesn't have quirky sitcom-esque comedy. It's set apart. I like that.
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