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Post by egon1982 on Oct 16, 2017 6:58:53 GMT
Normally when you think of vampires, you think of an undead fanged creature that burns in the sunlight, sleeps in coffins, dresses up in a cape and seducing everyone with cheesy euro accents. That's where your wrong, there are many kinds of vampires in world legends as some that don't burn in the sunlight, some that can be goblin or ghost-like, some that can be insane people, some that need no sharp teeth or fangs, some with regular teeth that are sharp as razor blades, some from outer space, some that can change to different animals and all that.
Your speaking to an expert in vampire mythology and here are movies that break the vampire mould to challenge the vampire stereotypes you normally see on film.
My picks.
Lifeforce (1985): Vampires from space! the aliens in this movie are of an extraterrestrial ancient race of vampires whom are the origin of vampire, zombie and succubus lore when they visited before. These vampires require no fangs nor they drink blood, instead they suck out your lifeforce out. They can take other forms including bat-like creature form and energy mist plus similar to Asian vampire legends especially Japanese vampires in terms of soul-suckers. Can be killed two inches below the heart.
The Hunger (1983): These are of Egyptian breed and they don't require fangs nor burn in the sunlight but are daywalkers and cast reflections in mirrors. They use a dagger to stab people's necks then suck blood but can grow old then die if not given enough blood to satisfy their thirst.
Martin (1978): A psychopathic teen boy believes he is 83 years old and a vampire as he goes out at night to stalk, drug and kill people as he slits their wrists and necks for blood.
Near Dark (1987): Traditional based but no need for fangs but regular sharp as blades normal teeth yet can still roast like a son of a bitch in the sunlight yet withstand bullets as they spit them out. They paint their windows all black to avoid sunlight.
Rabid (1978): Biological vampire from David Cronenberg as it has a hot chick who gets in an accident and being an experiment for a new sex organ under her pits that sucks blood from victims as it requires blood and turns them into vampiric rabid zombie-like creatures.
Captain Kronos: Vampire Hunter (1972): These vampires wear dark clothes/hoods as they suck youth instead of blood as these vampires can be killed in different ways. Even in the film the main title's heros who has an assistant tells us there are different species of vampires.
The Dark Crystal (1982): The Skeckis are creatures who feed off the essence of living creatures instead of blood like Podlings and they also feed on energy.
Killer Klowns from Outer Space (1988): These Klowns are alien creatues who are also vampiric in some way as they suck blood from people with a straw.
Def By Temptation (1990): The temptress is a woman who is part succubus/part vampire as it drains blood and energy off from men and can teleport itself even in TVs.
Cronos (1993): An ancient bug-like device can transform anyone who uses it into a person who thirsts for blood.
Sleepwalkers (1992): Cat-like demonic beings who said to be origin of vampire lore including to Dracula himself. These can withstand sunlight and feed on both blood and youth of virgins but can only be killed by cats.
The Keep (1983): Molesar himself is considered to be the origin of vampire lore eons ago and he is a golem-like creature who can suck energy/youth out of people instead of their blood and can even restore old people of their youth back. It can be killed with a sword to the chest in the energy center.
Thirst (2009): Another biological vampire as the priest goes under an experiment to make him warty but the only cure is drinking blood to get rid of his warts. He even jumps up high and can cook in the sunlight.
Not of this Earth (1957 and 1988): Intergalactic vampires who need no fangs, no capes etc. but wears sunglasses to cover their eyes but when taken off they suck th energy off living humans then drain their blood with a device.
Immortality (aka Wisdom of Crocodiles) (1998): No need for fangs or burning in sunlight, this vampire is a realistic one who uses a knife to piece his victims and drain of blood.
Habit (1995): Another realistic vampire just like Martin and Wisdom of Crocodiles and features a guy who can get drunk on blood.
Mr. Vampire (1985): Energy sucking Chinese vampires who don't just suck blood but you energy as they are psychic vampires.
Lair of the White Worm (1988): Snake-like vampiric creatures who can withstand sunlight and they also hate holy things, these can be considered vampire lore birth from the creatures in this movie.
Planet of the Vampires (1965): More space vampires as they feed blood and energy off victims, they even sleep under rocks like vampires do in coffins.
Last Man on Earth/Omega Man/I Am Legend: All three adaptations of Richard Matheson's I Am Legend! features biological vampires who find sunlight is harmful to skin but doesn't roast them but no need for fangs but do feed on blood
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Oct 16, 2017 8:16:41 GMT
Nice list. All I can think of to add is.....
"Queen of Blood" (1966): I first saw it on TV in the 70's under the title "Planet of Blood." A much-overlooked film IMO. No fangs, but she hypnotizes the victim with her eyes and then chews open the wrist to drink the blood. A remake might be a problem. Where are we going to find another Florence Marley? I think Angelina Jolie might be able to do it.
"Daughter of Darkness" (1990): The vampires here are traditionally based in Eastern Europe, but instead of fangs they have a tongue that splits in half and sucks the blood.
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 16, 2017 19:36:29 GMT
egon1982 said: Aye; in many ways, couldn't Max Schreck's Count Orlok count in Nosferatu? He's fairly close to the traditional Eastern European depiction of a vampire (absolutely no romance about these creatures!), but he's quite different to the "conventional" vampire that arose because of Mr. Lugosi. By the by, you may be able to help me; I wrote a piece on a favorite author of mine, John Dickson Carr, here, and I was rather confused about a reference he made in one of his books. Indeed, he emphasizes differentiating this type of creature from that to which Montague Summers refers here: Now, I've read Summers and several other folkloric guides on the subject, but I was unable to find any kind of tradition in Western Europe for the former type, more mystical and less physical. Indeed, Summers goes out of his way to say Do you know of this sort of vampire in folklore? (I'm asking because of your "...goblin or ghost-like..." reference.) It would definitely help my article. Thanks!
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Post by egon1982 on Oct 16, 2017 22:04:06 GMT
egon1982 said: Aye; in many ways, couldn't Max Schreck's Count Orlok count in Nosferatu? He's fairly close to the traditional Eastern European depiction of a vampire (absolutely no romance about these creatures!), but he's quite different to the "conventional" vampire that arose because of Mr. Lugosi. By the by, you may be able to help me; I wrote a piece on a favorite author of mine, John Dickson Carr, here, and I was rather confused about a reference he made in one of his books. Indeed, he emphasizes differentiating this type of creature from that to which Montague Summers refers here: Now, I've read Summers and several other folkloric guides on the subject, but I was unable to find any kind of tradition in Western Europe for the former type, more mystical and less physical. Indeed, Summers goes out of his way to say Do you know of this sort of vampire in folklore? (I'm asking because of your "...goblin or ghost-like..." reference.) It would definitely help my article. Thanks! Well for Australian vampires they resemble Goblins and some Asian vampires are soul-suckers like the Japanese kind.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Oct 16, 2017 22:10:22 GMT
Not a movie, but the tv-series 'Buck Rogers in the 25th Century' had an unconventional vampire episode.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 16, 2017 22:29:43 GMT
Let's not forget the rarely seen Y/A subspecies. Rarely seen not because they're endangered but because they're unpopular and lame.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Oct 16, 2017 22:30:45 GMT
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Oct 16, 2017 22:35:51 GMT
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Post by alpha128 on Oct 17, 2017 2:21:50 GMT
Blade II featured "Reapers", a mutation immune to all vampire weaknesses with the exception of bright light, who kill humans and turn any vampires they feed on into more Reapers.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Oct 17, 2017 5:30:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 11:24:44 GMT
Only Lovers Left Alive (2013)
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Post by egon1982 on Oct 17, 2017 20:27:09 GMT
Blade II featured "Reapers", a mutation immune to all vampire weaknesses with the exception of bright light, who kill humans and turn any vampires they feed on into more Reapers. thanks for reminding me
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Post by alpha128 on Oct 17, 2017 21:54:35 GMT
Blade II featured "Reapers", a mutation immune to all vampire weaknesses with the exception of bright light, who kill humans and turn any vampires they feed on into more Reapers. thanks for reminding me You're welcome. By the way, Lifeforce is one of my all time favorite movies.
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Post by egon1982 on Oct 18, 2017 2:12:25 GMT
You're welcome. By the way, Lifeforce is one of my all time favorite movies. One of my fave vampire films too and you think it has a unique original fresh concept on how vampires/succubi/zombie lore come from aliens and how victims became the base for zombie lores? Vampirella comics did that as well back in 1968 on Drakulon planet where alien vampires were the origin of our Earth vampire myths/legends. And you seen The Hunger, Near Dark, Thirst (2009), The Keep, Martin etc.?
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Oct 18, 2017 3:24:00 GMT
Let the Right One In (2008) A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night (2014)
Both are great films to boot.
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Post by egon1982 on Oct 18, 2017 9:33:09 GMT
Let the Right One In (2008) A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night (2014) Both are great films to boot. Those too have unconventional vampires
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Post by alpha128 on Oct 18, 2017 11:44:41 GMT
And you seen The Hunger, Near Dark, Thirst (2009), The Keep, Martin etc.? As for the other films you mentioned... The Hunger (1983): I have seen this once. I didn't think much of it. The Dark Crystal (1982): I have seen this more than once. The last time was eleven years ago at a Science Fiction Marathon I attend. A pretty good film IMO. Killer Klowns from Outer Space (1988): They showed this at the Marathon three years ago. I slept through most of it, but was awake for the end. Based on what I did see, I don't think I missed much. Cronos (1993): They showed this one at the Marathon too. Pretty good debut film by Guillermo del Toro, who went on to make Blade II. The print they showed at the Marathon was partly in English, and partly in Spanish with English subtitles. Sleepwalkers (1992): I've seen this but wasn't impressed. The Keep (1983): I've seen this only once and would like to see it again. Not of this Earth (1957 and 1988): I have seen the remake but not the original. Lair of the White Worm (1988): I have seen this one and liked it. Planet of the Vampires (1965): I saw this at the Marathon too. Good atmosphere and supposedly influential to Alien (1979). Last Man on Earth/Omega Man/I Am Legend: I own the first two on DVD. I haven't seen "I Am Legend", but I did watch both endings on Youtube. I wasn't impressed with either. I have not seen: Martin (1978), Near Dark (1987), Rabid (1978), Captain Kronos: Vampire Hunter (1972), Def By Temptation (1990), Thirst (2009), Immortality (aka Wisdom of Crocodiles) (1998), Habit (1995), or Mr. Vampire (1985).
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Post by egon1982 on Oct 18, 2017 17:37:11 GMT
And you seen The Hunger, Near Dark, Thirst (2009), The Keep, Martin etc.? As for the other films you mentioned... The Hunger (1983): I have seen this once. I didn't think much of it. The Dark Crystal (1982): I have seen this more than once. The last time was eleven years ago at a Science Fiction Marathon I attend. A pretty good film IMO. Killer Klowns from Outer Space (1988): They showed this at the Marathon three years ago. I slept through most of it, but was awake for the end. Based on what I did see, I don't think I missed much. Cronos (1993): They showed this one at the Marathon too. Pretty good debut film by Guillermo del Toro, who went on to make Blade II. The print they showed at the Marathon was partly in English, and partly in Spanish with English subtitles. Sleepwalkers (1992): I've seen this but wasn't impressed. The Keep (1983): I've seen this only once and would like to see it again. Not of this Earth (1957 and 1988): I have seen the remake but not the original. Lair of the White Worm (1988): I have seen this one and liked it. Planet of the Vampires (1965): I saw this at the Marathon too. Good atmosphere and supposedly influential to Alien (1979). Last Man on Earth/Omega Man/I Am Legend: I own the first two on DVD. I haven't seen "I Am Legend", but I did watch both endings on Youtube. I wasn't impressed with either. I have not seen: Martin (1978), Near Dark (1987), Rabid (1978), Captain Kronos: Vampire Hunter (1972), Def By Temptation (1990), Thirst (2009), Immortality (aka Wisdom of Crocodiles) (1998), Habit (1995), or Mr. Vampire (1985). But do you agree that Lifeforce with Vampirella had unique takes on vampire lore by having aliens as the evolution/origin of vampire legends is quite an original idea Alpha?
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Oct 18, 2017 20:10:44 GMT
The vorvon in Buck Rogers was pretty damn creepy.
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Post by alpha128 on Oct 18, 2017 22:50:39 GMT
But do you agree that Lifeforce with Vampirella had unique takes on vampire lore by having aliens as the evolution/origin of vampire legends is quite an original idea Alpha? Indeed I do! Interestingly, the cut of Lifeforce that was released in the U.S. had a number of the references to vampires cut from the movie. These are in the original cut which was released in Europe. The vampires also speak in the European version - there lines were removed from the American version.
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