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Post by poelzig on Oct 21, 2017 6:39:21 GMT
The Marveltard Mods aren't interested in surrendering their power. I assume you are taling about me since scabab is not a particular MCU or Marvel fan. Stop calling me or anyone else a Marveltard. And as soon as you and the rest of the trolls do that I will get rid of the mod thing. So you have the power in this case. I have never called anyone a marveltard. I have never insulted anyone here that had not already said hateful things to me. What's wrong with just voting on this thing since most people seem to not like it?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 21, 2017 6:50:03 GMT
I don't now if the idea would wor. Let's say the sticy thread was made. Then in another thread two people are in disagreement over something as usual, now the norm here is that that will soon lead to insults being thrown at each other. So are we to expect then that these users would stop and thin "No, I won't quote your post and insult you by calling you a Marveltard or a fucing moron here. I will go over to the appropriate sticy thread first where I will then begin to insult you."? We'd have this entire thread where people can say anything that they want to to each other, racism and homophobia included which have supposedly happened before and we would believe that the bad blood that would grow between people there would never cross over into other threads? How liely is that really? The question is not if it would work (nobody can predict that), but if there is a political will to create a compromise to have a free soapbox area (general T&C apply) and a heavily moderated CMB area. As for working, of course dissent will appear in the moderated threads too - it would be absurd to assume otherwise - but in this case you can with full conviction play police and say "moved/deleted/amended/loced - tae it to the CMB soapbox, but T&C still apply there". I think posters, gadflies and bullies would accept this, and all can choose depending on preference and mood: Colden can be Colden, Denis can be Denis. Raptor can spread hate and racism etc. As before. In the end it's a political not a moderation decision Admin. It would be a very interesting and exiting experiment giving back some freedom and contentious fun.
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Post by scabab on Oct 21, 2017 6:50:32 GMT
I have never called anyone a marveltard. I have never insulted anyone here that had not already said hateful things to me. What's wrong with just voting on this thing since most people seem to not lie it? And that there explains why this place needs mods. Some person or persons said hateful things to you so you said them back in return. The thing is it never ends there, this then continues on and on and plagues other threads that have nothing at all to do with people's personal grudges. That's not happening anymore. You say that you don't like that there are mods but you clearly didn't like the hateful comments you got either. That doesn't go hand in hand does it? As a mod I will make sure nobody makes any hateful comments to you or that you will not make hateful comments to anyone else.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 21, 2017 6:52:45 GMT
Since the mods and raptor are so concerned with what's best for the board, why don't we have a poll and let us vote on whether or not we need mods. If more people decide we don't need to be censored and coddled, what with us NOT being pre teens and all, then the mods go away and raptor learns to use the ignore feature. Obviously since the mods are not doing this for petty reasons my suggestion is the only thing that maes sense. Let's find out what's really best for the majority instead of just being told what's best lie some communist regime. There's no point. The ones that don't want mods are the same people who don't lie the fact that they can't insult people freely anymore. Those who aren't causing any trouble and who aren't acting lie little ids throwing insults around over comic boo movies don't have a problem because I haven't had to touch any of their posts. It doesn't matter what users would vote for. The Admin of the site himself does not want this ind of behaviour and insult fest, that is why there are mods in the first place. Don't insult or provoe people and I'll have nothing to do with you. The majority of people on here are already able to do this just fine. That may very well be the truth in which case the poll will indicate that by having more people vote in favor of mods. if you are sincere about wanting the people who actually use these boards to have the board they want you will insist on letting us decide. John never even looks at these boards so let's not pretend he is the one who cares about people bickering. There is literally NO down side to letting the people decide if there should be mods. Unless your whole "I'm doing it for the board man" spiel is just that. If mods are the will of the people you can continue locking boards and making the boards safe for people with very thin skin. If mods are told to shove off then you have indeed done what is "best for the board" which has been your goal from the beginning, correct? It's a win win my brother.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 21, 2017 6:55:48 GMT
On a side note what's up with everyone missing the K in so many words tonight? Coincidence or something more nefarious? Maybe relating to the meteor shower?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 21, 2017 6:56:10 GMT
The question is not if it would wor (nobody can predict that), but if there is a political will to create a compromise to have a free soapbox area (general T&C apply) and a heavily moderated CMB area. As for woring, of course dissent will appear in the moderated threads too - it would be absurd to assume otherwise - but in this case you can with full conviction play police and say "moved/deleted/amended/loced - tae it to the CMB soapbox, but T&C still apply there". I thin posters, gadflies and bullies would accept this and can choose depending on preference and mood: Colden can be Colden, Denis can be Denis. Raptor can spread hate and racism etc. As before. In the end it's a political , not a moderation decision Admin . It would be a very interesting and exiting experiment giving bac some freedom and contentious fun. Thans for bringing the Admin in. scabab and Wakanda don't have the political will to do this. They lie their gay mod-powers too much. I think they cannot decide that, but will of course be important council. While I do not condone Panthers's ample use of the s-word (that should be uttered in the soapbox only) he at least seems to be inclined to reason. Remember the old teaching: Everybody is afraid to lose their power. But here we need to consider the common good and compensate for over-moderation - the latter is is fine IF there is an viable alternative.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 6:57:21 GMT
There's no point. The ones that don't want mods are the same people who don't lie the fact that they can't insult people freely anymore. Those who aren't causing any trouble and who aren't acting lie little ids throwing insults around over comic boo movies don't have a problem because I haven't had to touch any of their posts. It doesn't matter what users would vote for. The Admin of the site himself does not want this ind of behaviour and insult fest, that is why there are mods in the first place. Don't insult or provoe people and I'll have nothing to do with you. The majority of people on here are already able to do this just fine. That may very well be the truth in which case the poll will indicate that by having more people vote in favor of mods. if you are sincere about wanting the people who actually use these boards to have the board they want you will insist on letting us decide. John never even loos at these boards so let's not pretend he is the one who cares about people bicering. There is literally NO down side to letting the people decide if there should be mods. Unless your whole "I'm doing it for the board man" spiel is just that. If mods are the will of the people you can continue locing boards and maing the boards safe for people with very thin sin. If mods are told to shove off then you have indeed done what is "best for the board" which has been your goal from the beginning, correct? It's a win win my brother. He's only in it for the power. He doesn't care what the board wants.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 21, 2017 6:58:45 GMT
Where are all the "Ques" tonight? The letter K is missing.
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Post by scabab on Oct 21, 2017 7:00:13 GMT
I don't now if the idea would wor. Let's say the sticy thread was made. Then in another thread two people are in disagreement over something as usual, now the norm here is that that will soon lead to insults being thrown at each other. So are we to expect then that these users would stop and thin "No, I won't quote your post and insult you by calling you a Marveltard or a fucing moron here. I will go over to the appropriate sticy thread first where I will then begin to insult you."? We'd have this entire thread where people can say anything that they want to to each other, racism and homophobia included which have supposedly happened before and we would believe that the bad blood that would grow between people there would never cross over into other threads? How liely is that really? The question is not if it would wor (nobody can predict that), but if there is a political will to create a compromise to have a free soapbox area (general T&C apply) and a heavily moderated CMB area. As for woring, of course dissent will appear in the moderated threads too - it would be absurd to assume otherwise - but in this case you can with full conviction play police and say "moved/deleted/amended/loced - tae it to the CMB soapbox, but T&C still apply there". I thin posters, gadflies and bullies would accept this and can choose depending on preference and mood: Colden can be Colden, Denis can be Denis. Raptor can spread hate and racism etc. As before In the end it's a political , not a moderation decision Admin . It would be a very interesting and exiting experiment giving bac some freedom and contentious fun. There is no compromise when it comes to insulting others and bringing them down or making the hateful comments that only breed more hateful comments. Outside of that you guys have all the freedom you could want. You can have any discussion and any opinion and take whatever side you want in this Marvel vs DC "war". If you got your sticky thread it wouldn't be enough, it would never be enough. You would never stick to the rule of only insulting people in that one thread. The idea of even having a thread where people are allowed to freely insult people and treat each other like shit is baffling to begin with, that is not fun.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 21, 2017 7:06:45 GMT
That may very well be the truth in which case the poll will indicate that by having more people vote in favor of mods. if you are sincere about wanting the people who actually use these boards to have the board they want you will insist on letting us decide. John never even loos at these boards so let's not pretend he is the one who cares about people bicering. There is literally NO down side to letting the people decide if there should be mods. Unless your whole "I'm doing it for the board man" spiel is just that. If mods are the will of the people you can continue locing boards and maing the boards safe for people with very thin sin. If mods are told to shove off then you have indeed done what is "best for the board" which has been your goal from the beginning, correct? It's a win win my brother. He's only in it for the power. He doesn't care what the board wants. Dennis you are usually very perceptive but scabab has told us over and over and over that he only is taking this responsibility because he truly wants these boards to be a place where everyone enjoys themselves. Surely he hasn't been lying to us.
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Post by Admin on Oct 21, 2017 7:09:52 GMT
Two quick points:
1. The mob does not rule this forum. There are mods here because I want them here.
2. There will be no "CBM Soapbox" in which racism, homophobia, etc will be tolerated. The ToS applies to every area of this forum. There are no "anything goes" boards here, nor will there ever be. If you guys can't act like the adults you claim to be, then you will be treated like children.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 21, 2017 7:10:20 GMT
The question is not if it would wor (nobody can predict that), but if there is a political will to create a compromise to have a free soapbox area (general T&C apply) and a heavily moderated CMB area. As for woring, of course dissent will appear in the moderated threads too - it would be absurd to assume otherwise - but in this case you can with full conviction play police and say "moved/deleted/amended/loced - tae it to the CMB soapbox, but T&C still apply there". I thin posters, gadflies and bullies would accept this and can choose depending on preference and mood: Colden can be Colden, Denis can be Denis. Raptor can spread hate and racism etc. As before In the end it's a political , not a moderation decision Admin . It would be a very interesting and exiting experiment giving bac some freedom and contentious fun. There is no compromise when it comes to insulting others and bringing them down or making the hateful comments that only breed more hateful comments. Outside of that you guys have all the freedom you could want. You can have any discussion and any opinion and take whatever side you want in this Marvel vs DC "war". If you got your sticky thread it wouldn't be enough, it would never be enough. You would never stick to the rule of only insulting people in that one thread. The idea of even having a thread where people are allowed to freely insult people and treat each other like shit is baffling to begin with, that is not fun.ok you now leave the area of reasonable debate and uttering false dilemmas and absolutes here. The idea is to have the moderated boards you guys can police at your heart's desire. And then there is a soapbox or normal area still governed by the rule of the general Terms & Condition that apply to the rest of the board. It is not a hard to comprehend concept.
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Post by scabab on Oct 21, 2017 7:15:13 GMT
That may very well be the truth in which case the poll will indicate that by having more people vote in favor of mods. if you are sincere about wanting the people who actually use these boards to have the board they want you will insist on letting us decide. John never even looks at these boards so let's not pretend he is the one who cares about people bickering. There is literally NO down side to letting the people decide if there should be mods. Unless your whole "I'm doing it for the board man" spiel is just that. If mods are the will of the people you can continue locking boards and making the boards safe for people with very thin skin. If mods are told to shove off then you have indeed done what is "best for the board" which has been your goal from the beginning, correct? It's a win win my brother. We tried this, we went without mods since February, it clearly didn't work. You yourself said that another user here made fun of your deceased mother for no reason. That got you so angry that you made a personal threat to this user to come to your house.....this on a "non serious" Marvel superhero board. This bad blood then continues on for months and derails thread after thread because of back and forth arguments and insults. I am only a mod because of things like that to begin with and I will make sure these things do not happen again.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Oct 21, 2017 7:18:13 GMT
Two quick points: 1. The mob does not rule this forum. There are mods here because I want them here. 2. There will be no "CBM Soapbox" in which racism, homophobia, etc will be tolerated. The ToS applies to every area of this forum. There are no "anything goes" boards here, nor will there ever be. If you guys can't act like the adults you claim to be, then you will be treated like children. That is the idea. Nobody advocates a board of racism and hate - people like that must be banned like in the past. But this does not exclude that there is a soapbox-concept-like or normal area where more freedom is granted.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 21, 2017 7:34:13 GMT
Two quick points: 1. The mob does not rule this forum. There are mods here because I want them here. 2. There will be no "CBM Soapbox" in which racism, homophobia, etc will be tolerated. The ToS applies to every area of this forum. There are no "anything goes" boards here, nor will there ever be. If you guys can't act like the adults you claim to be, then you will be treated like children. It's your site or forum so you can and should run it the way you want. The fact so many people are looking for an option to some posters being catered to at the expense of the rest of the boards would seem to indicate the mods here are perhaps being a bit overzealous but why would the people who use the boards more often than some mods do know what they prefer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 7:44:37 GMT
I assume you are taling about me since scabab is not a particular MCU or Marvel fan. Stop calling me or anyone else a Marveltard. And as soon as you and the rest of the trolls do that I will get rid of the mod thing. So you have the power in this case. I have never called anyone a marveltard. I have never insulted anyone here that had not already said hateful things to me. What's wrong with just voting on this thing since most people seem to not like it? I was specifically responding to Dennis Reynolds. No-one else. It must be clear to you that my style of modding is to talk sense to people and not wildly change posts or threads. And as for mods being here, that was Admins suggestions and desire. He controls these boards. If you dont like it talk to him to change his mind, accept the fact there are mods or leave.
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Post by Admin on Oct 21, 2017 8:08:11 GMT
Two quick points: 1. The mob does not rule this forum. There are mods here because I want them here. 2. There will be no "CBM Soapbox" in which racism, homophobia, etc will be tolerated. The ToS applies to every area of this forum. There are no "anything goes" boards here, nor will there ever be. If you guys can't act like the adults you claim to be, then you will be treated like children. It's your site or forum so you can and should run it the way you want. The fact so many people are looking for an option to some posters being catered to at the expense of the rest of the boards would seem to indicate the mods here are perhaps being a bit overzealous but why would the people who use the boards more often than some mods do know what they prefer. I don't think the mods of these two (sorry, three) boards are asking too much. They're basically just trying to enforce a simple "don't be a dick" rule. Seems to me that if everyone here would adhere to that rule, nobody would even know they were here. Don't want the grease? Don't be a squeaky wheel. It's not rocket surgery.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 21, 2017 9:01:34 GMT
It's your site or forum so you can and should run it the way you want. The fact so many people are looking for an option to some posters being catered to at the expense of the rest of the boards would seem to indicate the mods here are perhaps being a bit overzealous but why would the people who use the boards more often than some mods do know what they prefer. I don't think the mods of these two (sorry, three) boards are asking too much. They're basically just trying to enforce a simple "don't be a dick" rule. Seems to me that if everyone here would adhere to that rule, nobody would even know they were here. Don't want the grease? Don't be a squeaky wheel. It's not rocket surgery. Like I said you can and will run the site as you please. If I had put in the effort and time you did I would as well. In the long run it doesn't matter if there are just as many dissatisfied people as there were pre mods or even more dissatisfied people. If we want to use this forum we will keep our opinions to ourselves, ignore even blatant hypocrisy and pretend a dozen separate threads about Thor having a high RT score is stimulating discussion. I would prefer since all those threads are exactly the same and even have the same handful of guys commenting they be merged but I won't hold my breath.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 11:34:00 GMT
Since the mods and raptor are so concerned with what's best for the board, why don't we have a poll and let us vote on whether or not we need mods. If more people decide we don't need to be censored and coddled, what with us NOT being pre teens and all, then the mods go away and raptor learns to use the ignore feature. Obviously since the mods are not doing this for petty reasons my suggestion is the only thing that maes sense. Let's find out what's really best for the majority instead of just being told what's best lie some communist regime. There's no point. The ones that don't want mods are the same people who don't lie the fact that they can't insult people freely anymore. Those who aren't causing any trouble and who aren't acting lie little ids throwing insults around over comic boo movies don't have a problem because I haven't had to touch any of their posts. I don't insult people and I don't think the boards are better off with mods.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 11:40:50 GMT
On a side note what's up with everyone missing the K in so many words tonight? Coincidence or something more nefarious? Maybe relating to the meteor shower? Lol I was about to make a similar post. Scabab and Tristan both have faulty "K's." I wonder if this is merely a coincidence?
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