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Post by darkpast on Nov 4, 2017 0:40:31 GMT
Too funny
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Post by merh on Nov 4, 2017 2:19:05 GMT
Asgardians can drink a lot. Remember in Ultron? Stan Lee's cameo? Excelsior. Hell, where you been? Thor drank Erik under the table in the first movie My spellchecker has the strongest aversion to hell. Keeps changing it behind my back. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 4, 2017 23:53:20 GMT
Yup, and they did it in hilarious fashion.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 5, 2017 13:44:54 GMT
As someone who is pretty much a borderline alcoholic I was happy to see myself represented in the film. Valkyrie is also bisexual, so bonus points for Marvel on that as well. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 5, 2017 14:47:13 GMT
As someone who is pretty much a borderline alcoholic I was happy to see myself represented in the film. Valkyrie is also bisexual, so bonus points for Marvel on that as well. I'm curious about this Valkyrie bisexual thing. Does anything in the film suggest that? |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 5, 2017 14:49:35 GMT
Drinking too much has always been used for comedy. Also, alcoholism is one of those things that is terrible yes, but is given as a crutch to people. Anybody who really wants to stop drinking can stop drinking and I've seen it many times. If an alcoholic continues to drink, it's only because they don't want to stop, not because they can't.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 5, 2017 15:11:18 GMT
Drinking too much has always been used for comedy. Also, alcoholism is one of those things that is terrible yes, but is given as a crutch to people. Anybody who really wants to stop drinking can stop drinking and I've seen it many times. If an alcoholic continues to drink, it's only because they don't want to stop, not because they can't. wow, what an incredibly obtuse and cynical deflection even for ArchStanton. Psychological and physical addictions to drugs are not like your porn, junk food or MCU addiction, Stanton, and even these can be nasty. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 5, 2017 15:20:47 GMT
Drinking too much has always been used for comedy. Also, alcoholism is one of those things that is terrible yes, but is given as a crutch to people. Anybody who really wants to stop drinking can stop drinking and I've seen it many times. If an alcoholic continues to drink, it's only because they don't want to stop, not because they can't. wow, what an incredibly obtuse and cynical deflection even for ArchStanton. Psychological and physical addictions to drugs are not like your porn, junk food or MCU addiction, Stanton, and even these can be nasty. Alcoholism isn't a physical dependency, it's a psychological one. In that way, he IS right. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 5, 2017 15:24:13 GMT
As someone who is pretty much a borderline alcoholic I was happy to see myself represented in the film. Valkyrie is also bisexual, so bonus points for Marvel on that as well. I'm curious about this Valkyrie bisexual thing. Does anything in the film suggest that? The actress confirmed it and they shot a scene in which she was in a romantic relationship with a woman, but unfortunately it was cut from the film. So Valkyrie is the films first LBGT character and as a bisexual myself it was a nice addition. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 5, 2017 15:27:19 GMT
As someone who is pretty much a borderline alcoholic I was happy to see myself represented in the film. Valkyrie is also bisexual, so bonus points for Marvel on that as well. I'm curious about this Valkyrie bisexual thing. Does anything in the film suggest that? The Valkyrie who saves her in the flashback in their battle with Hela was supposed to be her lover. Further explanation was cut out though. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 5, 2017 15:37:01 GMT
I'm curious about this Valkyrie bisexual thing. Does anything in the film suggest that? The actress confirmed it and they shot a scene in which she was in a romantic relationship with a woman, but unfortunately it was cut from the film. So Valkyrie is the films first LBGT character and as a bisexual myself it was a nice addition. That's cool and all. I'm just wondering if you would have been more impressed if they had made it clear. Like maybe just a scene where's she's clearly with another woman at a bar or something. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 5, 2017 15:37:30 GMT
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 5, 2017 15:40:21 GMT
The actress confirmed it and they shot a scene in which she was in a romantic relationship with a woman, but unfortunately it was cut from the film. So Valkyrie is the films first LBGT character and as a bisexual myself it was a nice addition. That's cool and all. I'm just wondering if you would have been more impressed if they had made it clear. Like maybe just a scene where's she's clearly with another woman at a bar or something. I would have liked that, yes. A bar scene with a woman on her lap and flirting wouldn't have hurt the film. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 5, 2017 15:41:13 GMT
Alcoholism isn't a physical dependency, it's a psychological one. In that way, he IS right. Apart from that, the psychological addiction is ALWAYS the tough part. But it still isn't a purely physical dependency the same way hardcore drugs are. There you have to deal with both physical and mental addiction. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 5, 2017 15:41:58 GMT
wow, what an incredibly obtuse and cynical deflection even for ArchStanton. Psychological and physical addictions to drugs are not like your porn, junk food or MCU addiction, Stanton, and even these can be nasty. Alcoholism isn't a physical dependency, it's a psychological one. In that way, he IS right. Thank you, and I would just point out I did say it was terrible at the start. The effects of alcoholism are nasty yes, but it's still something that can be quit easily if the person actually wants to stop.
I'll give you an example. My grandparents were the heaviest smokers I've ever known. Like 6 pack a day kind of people. They found 1 small lump on my grandfathers lung and they both quit cold turkey. Why? Because they wanted to. Anybody who tells you they can't stop smoking or can't stop drinking, simply doesn't truly deeply want to.
I'm not trying to make light of it. I'm just stating that if they haven't stopped, they haven't found the motivation to stop.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 5, 2017 15:43:04 GMT
That's cool and all. I'm just wondering if you would have been more impressed if they had made it clear. Like maybe just a scene where's she's clearly with another woman at a bar or something. I would have liked that, yes. A bar scene with a woman on her lap and flirting wouldn't have hurt the film. It would have been great actually. I wouldn't need to know anything more about it, but it and I'd have loved that. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 5, 2017 15:44:10 GMT
I'm curious about this Valkyrie bisexual thing. Does anything in the film suggest that? The Valkyrie who saves her in the flashback in their battle with Hela was supposed to be her lover. Further explanation was cut out though. And that blonde Valkyrie in the flashback was also the comic version of the character if I'm not mistaken. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 5, 2017 15:47:04 GMT
The Valkyrie who saves her in the flashback in their battle with Hela was supposed to be her lover. Further explanation was cut out though. And that blonde Valkyrie in the flashback was also the comic version of the character if I'm not mistaken. Looked like her. But the name "Valkyrie" is just a title, so there can be more than one...as shown in the film. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 5, 2017 15:52:13 GMT
And that blonde Valkyrie in the flashback was also the comic version of the character if I'm not mistaken. Looked like her. But the name "Valkyrie" is just a title, so there can be more than one...as shown in the film. Well yeah obviously, but I'm just saying that's the classic version of the character. I'm actually interested by the idea she was killed. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 5, 2017 15:54:36 GMT
Apart from that, the psychological addiction is ALWAYS the tough part. But it still isn't a purely physical dependency the same way hardcore drugs are. There you have to deal with both physical and mental addiction. Alcohol is a legal hardcore drug, you mean illegal narcotics. And even those are NOT purely physical. You can go through the withdrawal by administering substitute drugs with less severe side effects. But the bitch is even after the physical therapy the psychological dependency remains often for your entire life (once a junkie...), that is were they fall back into drug abuse. It's not like in the Hollywood movies. Many addicts say it's easier to get off narcotics than from alcohol cause of social alcohol acceptance and peer pressure- the difference unlike their peers their brain cannot control it and they become junkies by drinking (secretly) in the morning and during day already. They cannot stop it or they go through serious withdrawal hell. Thus organizations like AA and alc clinics. www.aa.org/ |
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