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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 7, 2017 3:10:14 GMT
MoS opened to $128 million counting the Thursday night showings, which were counted separate from the movie’s Friday-Sunday numbers for whatever reason. Well regardless, MOS didn't even make it to 700, and Ragnarok will clearly do that pretty easily.
My point here was not if JL is better or worse or anything like that, but just what the effect/perception will be.
It would be a pretty big dissapointment if JL opens to less than TR, that much is certain. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 7, 2017 3:16:54 GMT
Well regardless, MOS didn't even make it to 700, and Ragnarok will clearly do that pretty easily.
My point here was not if JL is better or worse or anything like that, but just what the effect/perception will be.
It would be a pretty big dissapointment if JL opens to less than TR, that much is certain. I agree, what if it only makes 128, so 5 million more? Is that still in the disappointing by comparison category? Or is a win a win? What about 132? |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 7, 2017 3:31:49 GMT
It would be a pretty big dissapointment if JL opens to less than TR, that much is certain. I agree, what if it only makes 128, so 5 million more? Is that still in the disappointing by comparison category? Or is a win a win? What about 132? I’d say anything above SS would be okay. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 7, 2017 3:40:42 GMT
I agree, what if it only makes 128, so 5 million more? Is that still in the disappointing by comparison category? Or is a win a win? What about 132? I’d say anything above SS would be okay. I admit I do find this all pretty fascinating because it's the most direct head to head we've seen, and the only other real comparison was the Civil War vs BVS thing.
It's going to be very interesting next week with the 2nd weekend and then of course when JL opens to see what happens.
My thought heading into these two weeks was which one dominates the conversation the next two weeks, and so far I would say it's Thor, which if you're DC, probably isn't what you want. I'm thinking marvel will hit the extra advertising button at the start of next week to maintain as much of that conversation as possible.
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Post by scabab on Nov 7, 2017 3:50:44 GMT
Suicide Squad did make practically the same amount as Batman vs Superman domestically so I don't suppose we can undermine it too much.
Seeing as I don't expect Justice League to gross as much as Batman vs Superman I don't really expect it to gross as much as Suicide Squad either.
Still around the low $300 millions wouldn't be bad. It'd neon par with 3/4 of their movies. It'd also be their fifth movie in a row to gross over $300 million domestically when adjusted for inflation.
It would only really be poor in comparison to what The Avengers did compared to its previous movies.
Supposedly the budget is $300 million so it really doesn't need to gross less than Batman vs Superman because that was considered a financial disappointment and that had a lower budget.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 4:20:24 GMT
They'll probably open about the same.
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Post by darkpast on Nov 7, 2017 4:47:17 GMT
the previews look really bad to me, i don't even know who the villain is
anything below 300m domestic would be embarrassing, WB seemed to rush this movie out
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 12:58:34 GMT
I'm curious what DC fans think about JL's opening compared to Thor, which of course opened with $121mil. Obviously if it comes up short of Thor that would be a big problem, but what if it only opens with, let's say, $125. Does that feel like a win? How about $130? How much should DC's main event beat Thor by himself, and if it's only by a few million, what does that mean?  |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 7, 2017 13:01:00 GMT
I'm curious what DC fans think about JL's opening compared to Thor, which of course opened with $121mil. Obviously if it comes up short of Thor that would be a big problem, but what if it only opens with, let's say, $125. Does that feel like a win? How about $130? How much should DC's main event beat Thor by himself, and if it's only by a few million, what does that mean? I truly doubt a teen titans movie would slaughter The Avengers. I don't know if you're joking about that or not, but come on. I think the proof of that is that they haven't made one. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 13:06:03 GMT
I am not surprised. ‘Justice League’ was never DC’s biggest selling team series regardless of it having Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman in it – heck, ‘Justice League’ is not even DC’s second biggest selling team series either. ‘Teen Titans’ is number one and a ‘Teen Titans’ movie would slaughter The Avengers and Thor. The Bat Family is DC's biggest selling entity and as soon as the solo Batman movie is a bigger hit than all the others Warner Bros will push all the irrelevant characters to the side and focus on Batman and the Bat Family. I truly doubt a teen titans movie would slaughter The Avengers. I don't know if you're joking about that or not, but come on. I think the proof of that is that they haven't made one.  |
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Post by CowherPowerForever on Nov 7, 2017 13:30:18 GMT
Ragnarok was tracking about 95 million before its opening weekend started up. It actually made 122.7 million. If Justice League does the same we are talking about an opening weekend close to 150 million. A figure most expect to be more realistic, and very good.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 7, 2017 15:01:21 GMT
I truly doubt a teen titans movie would slaughter The Avengers. I don't know if you're joking about that or not, but come on. I think the proof of that is that they haven't made one. Higher comic sales doesn't really much of anything, because the bulk of the box office isn't earned from comic readers.
I'm not saying it can't earn more than JL, but you said it would slaughter the Avengers, and I'll bet anything you like on that one.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 7, 2017 22:23:30 GMT
I'm curious what DC fans think about JL's opening compared to Thor, which of course opened with $121mil. Obviously if it comes up short of Thor that would be a big problem, but what if it only opens with, let's say, $125. Does that feel like a win? How about $130? How much should DC's main event beat Thor by himself, and if it's only by a few million, what does that mean? I don't think it really matters all that much. As long as it's over 100, they at least won't have to be embarrassed about it. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 7, 2017 22:26:23 GMT
I'm curious what DC fans think about JL's opening compared to Thor, which of course opened with $121mil. Obviously if it comes up short of Thor that would be a big problem, but what if it only opens with, let's say, $125. Does that feel like a win? How about $130? How much should DC's main event beat Thor by himself, and if it's only by a few million, what does that mean? I don't think it really matters all that much. As long as it's over 100, they at least won't have to be embarrassed about it. I don't think 100 changes anything that 99 doesn't. If that's all it makes it would still be the smallest opening weekend of any comic film of the year, so I'd have to say that's just as embarrassing. But it's going to do that low. I would say if it doesn't beat Thor, that's just as bad, and even if it only gets to 125 or something, that's really underwhelming when their core property isn't any more valuable than Thor. Wouldn't you say? |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 7, 2017 22:34:42 GMT
Honestly, if it makes less than Batman v Superman opening weekend it's a negative.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 7, 2017 22:36:55 GMT
that's really underwhelming when their core property isn't any more valuable than Thor. Wouldn't you say? It is what it is, at this point. I think most ( objective ) people realize that DCEU has pretty much dropped the ball so far. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 7, 2017 23:38:25 GMT
that's really underwhelming when their core property isn't any more valuable than Thor. Wouldn't you say? It is what it is, at this point. I think most ( objective ) people realize that DCEU has pretty much dropped the ball so far. Yeah ok, that's fair. I'm not really here to make a big deal out of it. I just sort of find it fascinating.
I don't know if you ever watched wrestling, but it reminds me of the WWF/WCW days where WCW was very much inferior but sort of gained recognition by buying up guys who really should have been retired and lived off their brands. I'm not saying that's what DC is doing, but the analogy is more that WCW never did anything with their talent. They just kind of kept them around, and I really feel like DC just feels like they don't have to try, and that people will just keep showing up for their characters regardless. But I have to say, you can get away with that for a minute, but eventually you just do long term damage to your brand. Once you've had a whole decade of kids grow up with Marvel as their brand, that really starts to add up. It's kind of the reason Nintendo isn't the top brand in video games anymore. I mean nothing was bigger than Nintendo in the 90's and it wasn't close. Blockbuster failed to transition to the future. What happened to Sears? Big brands can fall. I know sometimes they seem immortal, but they aren't.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 9:39:56 GMT
130 i would consider a loss. Im a huge dc fan too. If that happens ill cut open the veins of both of my wrists
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 8, 2017 13:01:05 GMT
130 i would consider a loss. Im a huge dc fan too. If that happens ill cut open the veins of both of my wrists I would consider it a loss too, but easy on the vein opening. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 8, 2017 15:05:26 GMT
130 i would consider a loss. Im a huge dc fan too. If that happens ill cut open the veins of both of my wrists It's just a movie. |
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