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Post by snsurone on Nov 6, 2017 16:53:08 GMT
Born John Joseph Ryan, he got his start in bit parts on film.
Who could forget him holding a knife to Gary Cooper's throat in MAN OF THE WEST?
He also played Robert Ryan's son in GOD'S LITTLE ACRE.
But apparently, his true calling was the small screen, first in STONY BURKE and then the leading role in HAWAII 5-0.
IMHO, his stardom was based more on his rugged good looks than on any actual acting ability.
He was an extreme narcissist who tended to chew the scenery to shreds.
And he had a horrible relationship with the press.
Once, he bawled out a reporter who called James MacArthur a "co-star", declaring the show had only one star--him!
Is it any wonder that all the other regulars eventually left the series?
After HAWAII 5-0 was cancelled, Lord just drifted and became a recluse, with only his wife for company (they had no children).
He refused to accept calls, and when he was asked to reprise his role of McGarrett in order to boost the sagging ratings of MAGNUM, P. I., he refused.
Jack Lord died in 1998 at age 77.
The official cause of death was heart failure, but it was rumored that he had Alzheimer's Disease; something his wife vehemently denied until her passing in 2004.
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Post by vegalyra on Nov 6, 2017 18:07:06 GMT
I recently watched Tip On a Dead Jockey, a fairly late career Robert Taylor vehicle. One of the supporting cast I just couldn't put my finger on who it was and then it snapped. "Hey, it's McGarrett!"
Jack Lord in a fairly early role, he looked real young, although I guess he would have been 36/37...
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Post by snsurone on Nov 6, 2017 18:15:17 GMT
I forgot to mention that he was also the original Felix Leiter in DR. NO.
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Post by teleadm on Nov 6, 2017 18:43:16 GMT
I had totally forgotten that he was Felix Leitner in Dr No 1962.  I've enjoyed most of the episodes I've seen of Hawaii Five-O. except those about the red scare, with chinese spies, because they today feel to make those episodes out of the normal concept of the series, and feels more to belong to James Bond's world. |
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Nov 6, 2017 21:04:07 GMT
Born John Joseph Ryan, he got his start in bit parts on film. Who could forget him holding a knife to Gary Cooper's throat in MAN OF THE WEST? He also played Robert Ryan's son in GOD'S LITTLE ACRE. But apparently, his true calling was the small screen, first in STONY BURKE and then the leading role in HAWAII 5-0. IMHO, his stardom was based more on his rugged good looks than on any actual acting ability. He was an extreme narcissist who tended to chew the scenery to shreds. And he had a horrible relationship with the press. Once, he bawled out a reporter who called James MacArthur a "co-star" declaring the show had only one star--him! Is it any wonder that all the other regulars eventually left the series? After HAWAII 5-0 was cancelled, Lord just drifted and became a hermit, with only his wife for company (they had no children). He refused to accept calls, and when he was asked to reprise his role of McGarrett in order to boost the sagging ratings of MAGUNUM, P. I., he refused. Jack Lord died in 1998 at age 77. The official cause of death was heart failure, but it was rumored that he had Alzheimer's Disease; something his wife vehemently denied until her passing in 2004. Anyone here from the old IMDb and remember when I WAS " LordOfTheBoard"?...  |
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Post by snsurone on Nov 6, 2017 21:17:02 GMT
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Post by snsurone on Nov 6, 2017 21:22:04 GMT
I confess, I've never seen the new version of HAWAII 5-0.
How does it compare to the original?
I know there has been a number of cast changes over the years, just like in the original.
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Post by outrider127 on Nov 6, 2017 22:45:39 GMT
I forgot to mention that he was also the original Felix Leiter in DR. NO. Yes, and he would have been again but he asked for too much money |
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Post by Richard Kimble on Nov 7, 2017 11:54:21 GMT
I've enjoyed most of the episodes I've seen of Hawaii Five-O. except those about the red scare, with chinese spies, because they today feel to make those episodes out of the normal concept of the series, and feels more to belong to James Bond's world. Watch the pilot and you'll see H5-0 was conceived as much as a spy series as a cop show |
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Post by Richard Kimble on Nov 7, 2017 11:57:45 GMT
I forgot to mention that he was also the original Felix Leiter in DR. NO. Yes, and he would have been again but he asked for too much money What I've read is that he wanted the role of Felix Leiter built up to be Bond's partner. AND he wanted top billing. |
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Post by Richard Kimble on Nov 7, 2017 12:07:58 GMT
And he had a horrible relationship with the press. Once, he bawled out a reporter who called James MacArthur a "co-star" declaring the show had only one star--him! There's a famous story of Lord going berserk b/c he found out that MacArthur's mother -- one Helen Hayes -- had been allowed on the set without his OK. Cooler heads prevailed and an episode was even written for HH to play Jimmy Mac's eccentric aunt. "On the set, Jack Lord is known for three things: his demands, his demands, and his demands."That's probably an old Hollywood joke, but I first heard it about Lord. He supposedly had a script girl fired because she looked at him the wrong way. The great IMDb poster Clore told a story of running into Lord in NYC's Central Park shortly before 5-0 went on the air, when he was extraordinarily rude. He allegedly got into a fistfight with Vic Morrow on the God's Little Acre Set, and Bruce Dern has said that on Stoney Burke he sometimes thought about killing Lord. Aside from his personal peccadilloes, what intrigues me about Lord is how unsympathetic he usually comes off, even in leading man roles. He is extremely cold on Hawaii Five-0. I'm kind of surprised he became so successful as a TV hero, since he was so good at playing villains. Perhaps my favorite Lord performance is in the last season Fugitive episode "Goodbye My Love", where he plots to murder his rich wife and frame Kimble for it so he can marry his mistress. He has a sleazy rattlesnake charm here, and charm is something that was mostly missing from Steve McGarrett. |
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Post by snsurone on Nov 7, 2017 15:34:29 GMT
Any wonder that he changed his surname to "Lord"?  |
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Post by telegonus on Nov 8, 2017 8:30:46 GMT
I've never been a fan of Jack Lord, or of Hawaii Five-O, but I've seen Lord give decent performances in films and on TV anthology series as well as a guest star on top rated shows of the Sixties, including Route 66 and The Untouchables. As to Lord being unsympathetic, I agree with Richard Kimble.
Yet there was a kind of pushy macho chutzpah to the guy that impresses me, and when he was well cast those qualities could make him interesting to watch, the way a ticking time bomb can be interesting to watch. When in overdrive Lord could look like he was ready to kill a dozen people.
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Post by snsurone on Nov 8, 2017 13:12:27 GMT
And he had a horrible relationship with the press. Once, he bawled out a reporter who called James MacArthur a "co-star" declaring the show had only one star--him! There's a famous story of Lord going berserk b/c he found out that MacArthur's mother -- one Helen Hayes -- had been allowed on the set without his OK. Cooler heads prevailed and an episode was even written for HH to play Jimmy Mac's eccentric aunt. "On the set, Jack Lord is known for three things: his demands, his demands, and his demands."That's probably an old Hollywood joke, but I first heard it about Lord. He supposedly had a script girl fired because she looked at him the wrong way. The great IMDb poster Clore told a story of running into Lord in NYC's Central Park shortly before 5-0 went on the air, when he was extraordinarily rude. He allegedly got into a fistfight with Vic Morrow on the God's Little Acre Set, and Bruce Dern has said that on Stoney Burke he sometimes thought about killing Lord. Aside from his personal peccadilloes, what intrigues me about Lord is how unsympathetic he usually comes off, even in leading man roles. He is extremely cold on Hawaii Five-0. I'm kind of surprised he became so successful as a TV hero, since he was so good at playing villains. Perhaps my favorite Lord performance is in the last season Fugitive episode "Goodbye My Love", where he plots to murder his rich wife and frame Kimble for it so he can marry his mistress. He has a sleazy rattlesnake charm here, and charm is something that was mostly missing from Steve McGarrett. I agree, but you have to remember that other TV cops also came across as "cold". I don't think Jack Webb ever smiled once on DRAGNET. And Raymond Burr also seemed rather aloof on IRONSIDE, athough Burr was a far better actor than Lord. It's only in the last couple of decades that TV cops and detectives were allowed to be "human" and fallible, something of which Jack Lord was incapable. |
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Post by Richard Kimble on Nov 8, 2017 13:33:43 GMT
Raymond Burr also seemed rather aloof on IRONSIDE, athough Burr was a far better actor than Lord. Personally I think Lord was a much better actor than Burr, who I always found rather superficial and unemotional, especially in the eyes. Watch his Fugitive episode, "Goodbye My Love" (I rewatched it yesterday after mentioning it here). He shows quite a range of emotion -- certainly more than R Burr ever showed. If you want to see Lord at his best check it out. |
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Post by snsurone on Nov 8, 2017 20:54:44 GMT
I respectfully disagree, Dr. Kimble.
I find Raymond Burr a mesmerizing actor, with his hypnotic eyes and deep, mellifluous voice.
Moreover, he could convey more with just a facial expression than Jack Lord could with pages of dialogue.
Re that episode of THE FUGITIVE: I think you miss my point.
I said that TV COPS were depicted as cold and taciturn for many years.
You said that Lord played a villain in that episode, and in those days, villains were often more colorful than heroes.
Same with many detective movies.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Nov 10, 2017 5:20:19 GMT
Jack Lord reminds me of (or makes me think of) Robert Stack. Must be the glasses. I wonder what he would've been like in Airplane instead of RS??
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Post by snsurone on Nov 10, 2017 17:14:05 GMT
I agree that Robert Stack was kinda wooden as an actor, but, to his everlasting credit, he was not the megalomaniac that Jack Lord was.
BTW, I remember seeing a promo for WRITTEN ON THE WIND on TV many years ago.
There was no audible dialogue in this promo where Stack was berating his wife, played by Lauren Bacall, of infidelity with his best friend.
It looked like he was saying, "You bitch!"
Much later, when I actually saw that scene, he said, "You, and Mitch!"
I wonder if anyone else thought the same thing.
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Post by teleadm on Nov 10, 2017 18:42:08 GMT
"book 'em Danno" I certainly didn't know he was such an unpleasant person.
Richard Boone was the first actor to be offered the role, though he liked the idea of a detective in Hawaii, but he decleined, but his suggestion of making everything in Hawaii won through, unlike Magnum and other Hawaiian set tv series Hawaii Five-O was totally made in Hawaii.
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Post by Richard Kimble on Nov 11, 2017 11:06:55 GMT
"book 'em Danno" I certainly didn't know he was such an unpleasant person. Richard Boone was the first actor to be offered the role, though he liked the idea of a detective in Hawaii, but he decleined Boone made his own Hawaii-set project called Kona Coast, where he played a hard-nosed narc. But it didn't sell. I believe you are incorrect about Magnum. IIRC one of the reasons it was created in the first place was in order to use the studios and infrastructure CBS had built in Hawaii for 5-0. |
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