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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 2:29:35 GMT
I didn't even know that was a thing. There are fox x-men fans that only like their fox verse? That's fucking insane. Yep, and I agree with you. Look at Colden and how he keeps saying everyone in the MCU is a D-Lister who didn't deserve any movies or TV shows to their name. These are people who are outright OFFENDED at the MCU's mere existence. The X-Men could be bigger. There's no reason Apocolypse couldn't have been an Infinity War level event. Fox just hasn't done what was necessary to get it there. They didn't have the vision to do it. Marvel has shown everybody what's possible. If WB wants to put out a committed awesome DC verse fine. If Fox wants to put together an awesome X-Verse fine. But you can't blame Marvel for putting together what I honestly call the greatest cinematic achievement of all time. Anybody studio who wants to step up to the plate is welcome to it, the bar has been raised. No more half assed bullshit from the X-Men or DC. |
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Post by egon1982 on Dec 6, 2017 3:23:53 GMT
Lets hope Disney doesnt turn them into kiddy comedies like Antman, Ragnarok and GotG. Feige has worked on the earlier Xfilms so atleast that gives me some hope he knows how to properly handle them considering their roots. Antman, Rangarok and GOTG are films true to their origins and only kids say kiddie. |
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Post by egon1982 on Dec 6, 2017 3:45:55 GMT
Is that all you people really care about? Marvel acquiring the rights back?? Is that the whole basis for this childish fight?? It's pathetic since you're sacrificing creative and artistic integrity for geeky fanboy dreams. Artistic intergrity? are you off your nut? the last 3 fantastic four movies i thought completely sucked and Marvel is the right home for the fantastic four and characters you know, i mean the last movie was a dumb gritty/dark attempt to make lighthearted heroes like F4 into something they are not, it did not work for the F4. I mean having Galactus as an Avengers or GOTG villain would be something you know! even F4 themselves with Avengers or Guardians of the Galaxy plus Starlord/Hepzibah and the Starjammers meeting Guardians you know. Maybe even Silver Surfer in an Avengers or Guardians film especially Doctor Doom. I can see Marvel Studios handle the Fantastic Four better than what Fox did, i mean Fox did well with Deadpool/Logan but they suck at Fantastic Four i mean face the facts. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 6:24:52 GMT
Ugh, I'd be really disappointed if this happens. Let Disney have the Fantastic Four and those characters like Doom, Galactus, and Surfer because they like Spider-Man I feel really belong there with the MCU but keep the X-Men separate. While I disagree with where they are taking the franchise at the moment I don't want everything to have the same MCU formula to them. It's nice to have the X-Men away from that. It also means I wouldn't be getting my Gambit movie that in itself is reason enough for me to be against this transaction. I love most of the MCU and for the most part love the Fox X-Men films. Just the idea that Disney and the MCU needs to control everything is a bit sickening. The only way I'd possibly get behind this if they made X-Men into a Netflix series where they can do things a little differently from the MCU movie formula. However trying to show off some of these X-Men's powers might be above the Netflix series pay grade so it might be horrible come to think of it.
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 6, 2017 12:51:08 GMT
Ugh, I'd be really disappointed if this happens. Let Disney have the Fantastic Four and those characters like Doom, Galactus, and Surfer because they like Spider-Man I feel really belong there with the MCU but keep the X-Men separate. I keep hearing this and I just don't get it. It's always the same "The X-Men don't work in a Universe where they aren't the only superbeings!" argument. That's not how racism works in real life, why does it have to be that way in comics? |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 16:55:07 GMT
Ugh, I'd be really disappointed if this happens. Let Disney have the Fantastic Four and those characters like Doom, Galactus, and Surfer because they like Spider-Man I feel really belong there with the MCU but keep the X-Men separate. I keep hearing this and I just don't get it. It's always the same "The X-Men don't work in a Universe where they aren't the only superbeings!" argument. That's not how racism works in real life, why does it have to be that way in comics? I think they can work with others,
HOWEVER, I dont' think there is any sufficient way to bring them into the current MCU.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 16:58:03 GMT
Ugh, I'd be really disappointed if this happens. Let Disney have the Fantastic Four and those characters like Doom, Galactus, and Surfer because they like Spider-Man I feel really belong there with the MCU but keep the X-Men separate. While I disagree with where they are taking the franchise at the moment I don't want everything to have the same MCU formula to them. It's nice to have the X-Men away from that. It also means I wouldn't be getting my Gambit movie that in itself is reason enough for me to be against this transaction. I love most of the MCU and for the most part love the Fox X-Men films. Just the idea that Disney and the MCU needs to control everything is a bit sickening. The only way I'd possibly get behind this if they made X-Men into a Netflix series where they can do things a little differently from the MCU movie formula. However trying to show off some of these X-Men's powers might be above the Netflix series pay grade so it might be horrible come to think of it. I've been waiting for the X-Men to get a reboot since First Class. I don't think they've ever put a whole lot of effort into continuity and I'd like to see a more thoughtful long form story developed. I have to vote for FF, etc going to the MCU and if the X-Men have to go with them, that's fine. I think I would prefer to they do keep them as their own entity when rebooting them though. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 6, 2017 17:01:24 GMT
Is that all you people really care about? Marvel acquiring the rights back?? Is that the whole basis for this childish fight?? It's pathetic since you're sacrificing creative and artistic integrity for geeky fanboy dreams. I'm sorry, are you trying to suggest that Fox has been more creative or artistic? Because they haven't. First, I 100% want the FF four properties in the MCU. If somehow somebody else got the X-Men, so be it, but I'd rather anybody else get it with the hopes they finally reboot it and do something interesting with a long form story format. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 0:39:12 GMT
Ugh, I'd be really disappointed if this happens. Let Disney have the Fantastic Four and those characters like Doom, Galactus, and Surfer because they like Spider-Man I feel really belong there with the MCU but keep the X-Men separate. I keep hearing this and I just don't get it. It's always the same "The X-Men don't work in a Universe where they aren't the only superbeings!" argument. That's not how racism works in real life, why does it have to be that way in comics? Ok first off that isn't at all what I said. I'm not saying that they wouldn't work in a universe. I simply don't want the X-Men films to be regulated to the MCU formula. They have their distinct way of making their movies and for the most part they are good. I just like having a variety in how these characters can be handled and I PREFER for them to stay separate from that same type of creative style. Not that they couldn't work but it's fresh and different than from what the MCU is doing. If they worked out some deal where they shared the characters like Sony, that I could MAYBE get behind. Let MCU cast their version of the X-Men and have Fox do the same and then we can all be happy. You can get the MCU version of the X-Men in the MCU but it also would let Fox continue to make some X-Men themed movies like Logan, Deadpool, and maybe their own X-Men team movies. That however isn't likely to happen it seems. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 0:41:12 GMT
Ugh, I'd be really disappointed if this happens. Let Disney have the Fantastic Four and those characters like Doom, Galactus, and Surfer because they like Spider-Man I feel really belong there with the MCU but keep the X-Men separate. While I disagree with where they are taking the franchise at the moment I don't want everything to have the same MCU formula to them. It's nice to have the X-Men away from that. It also means I wouldn't be getting my Gambit movie that in itself is reason enough for me to be against this transaction. I love most of the MCU and for the most part love the Fox X-Men films. Just the idea that Disney and the MCU needs to control everything is a bit sickening. The only way I'd possibly get behind this if they made X-Men into a Netflix series where they can do things a little differently from the MCU movie formula. However trying to show off some of these X-Men's powers might be above the Netflix series pay grade so it might be horrible come to think of it. I've been waiting for the X-Men to get a reboot since First Class. I don't think they've ever put a whole lot of effort into continuity and I'd like to see a more thoughtful long form story developed. I have to vote for FF, etc going to the MCU and if the X-Men have to go with them, that's fine. I think I would prefer to they do keep them as their own entity when rebooting them though. And I care about your opinion about as much as I do my toaster's. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 7, 2017 1:44:00 GMT
I've been waiting for the X-Men to get a reboot since First Class. I don't think they've ever put a whole lot of effort into continuity and I'd like to see a more thoughtful long form story developed. I have to vote for FF, etc going to the MCU and if the X-Men have to go with them, that's fine. I think I would prefer to they do keep them as their own entity when rebooting them though. And I care about your opinion about as much as I do my toaster's. Ok, well when they're rebooted in the near future, I hope you enjoy it as much as I will be. Be sure to let me know what you think. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 7, 2017 2:16:10 GMT
Ok first off that isn't at all what I said. I'm not saying that they wouldn't work in a universe. I simply don't want the X-Men films to be regulated to the MCU formula. But the XCU formula is okay? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 2:32:25 GMT
I'm starting to warm up to Disney buying Fox because we might get that Mickey Deadpool cross over we always wanted
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Post by agentblue on Dec 7, 2017 3:08:51 GMT
I'm starting to warm up to Disney buying Fox because we might get that Mickey Deadpool cross over we always wanted Oh yeah |
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Post by darkpast on Dec 7, 2017 4:11:33 GMT
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 7, 2017 4:14:19 GMT
We've reached the end of the old, the beginning of the new.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 6:49:20 GMT
Ok first off that isn't at all what I said. I'm not saying that they wouldn't work in a universe. I simply don't want the X-Men films to be regulated to the MCU formula. But the XCU formula is okay? They've made more good movies than they have bad so it's not horrible. 6 good movies, 3 bad, and 1 okay. About a 66% success rate with the dependence on how you move the 1 okay movie (which for me is a 5/10). The MCU to me has almost that exact same success rate of 68% with 11 good movies, 5 bad, and 3 okay. I just don't want all of these movies to have the same exact formula to them. Will the X-Men MCU films be good? I'm sure some of them will just the same as the Fox films have been. It's just nice to have a different take on these characters is all I'm saying. We don't need Cyclops running around giving quips in order to fit in with Tony Stark or Dr Strange and what not. Not saying that they will do that with the Cyclops character per say but it'll all still fall under that same formula that has made the MCU so successful. The biggest positive coming from this would be that they recast the X-men and it's rebooted which I want Fox to just do within the present day Deadpool universe because these younger X-Men kids that they have currently cast sucks. I more so just wish Fox would correct the ship in regards to the X-Men and go back to making good films instead of the direction it's going instead of just selling to the MCU. In my mind it's only a matter of time before the MCU starts to grow stale and they have to start thinking outside of the box and try new things. There is simply nothing wrong with liking the fact that the X-Men aren't tied to the MCU formula just the same as there is nothing wrong with wanting all of the Marvel properties to be under the Disney/Marvel company. It's just my own opinion, if you disagree with it so be it |
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Post by charzhino on Dec 7, 2017 11:17:26 GMT
All you will get with Disney Xmen is better production value, accurate costumes and structured film slates with continuity. But it will be lighthearted, camp, formulaic, low stakes, cheap villains, gloss over dramatic issues, overly reliant on comedy and the cheesy scripted action sequences with quip after quip.
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Post by formersamhmd on Dec 7, 2017 13:00:52 GMT
All you will get with Disney Xmen is better production value, accurate costumes and structured film slates with continuity. But it will be lighthearted, camp, formulaic, low stakes, cheap villains, gloss over dramatic issues, overly reliant on comedy and the cheesy scripted action sequences with quip after quip. "Low stakes" = They'll be nice to let you know about future movies ahead of time so you know they won't destroy the world and execute the entire cast. WHY anyone who is a fan of the X-Men would want that...is beyond me. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 7, 2017 13:29:14 GMT
All you will get with Disney Xmen is better production value, accurate costumes and structured film slates with continuity. But it will be lighthearted, camp, formulaic, low stakes, cheap villains, gloss over dramatic issues, overly reliant on comedy and the cheesy scripted action sequences with quip after quip. Dude, you can give it up. Nobody cares about your whining. You're just missing out. |
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