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Post by Hitman's Bodyguard on Nov 8, 2017 8:43:45 GMT
Hello scabab. You as a mod, does you know where i can change my username? Go to - Profile - Edit Profile - Personal And then change your display name. My display name is already changed. But i can't change my username. This is still hitman.
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Post by sostie on Nov 8, 2017 9:53:03 GMT
Top 5, I'll take it. Though, the list is a bit of a joke. No way Spider-Man 2 isn't even in the top 5. And Lego Batman being in the top 10 and higher than Winter Soldier? I don't think so. And it's debatable with Logan, but The Dark Knight is far better than Wonder Woman and should be number one and I think anyone can agree with that. The whole adjusted score system is completely flawed. Wonder Woman still beats both of them easily. "Easily" is a bit strong. The main reason WW is top is that it received more reviews...that is the aspect of the formula that gives it a strong adjusted score, yet is has not beaten Thor Ragnarok or SMH on Fresh score, average rating or audience score. And if WW is at 108%...108% of what?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 8, 2017 10:23:30 GMT
Wonder Woman still beats both of them easily. "Easily" is a bit strong. The main reason WW is top is that it received more reviews...that is the aspect of the formula that gives it a strong adjusted score, yet is has not beaten Thor Ragnarok or SMH on Fresh score, average rating or audience score. And if WW is at 108%...108% of what? as they state in the List the weighted Bayesian formulan is bto compensate for different review numbers and other factors to create a sound comparison basis, its like adjustment for inflation , necessary and used with business data, rot tom go through the effort with all genre Films to give a serious overview what is really best reviewed We had a Poster here who could do percentages calculations and he calculated correctly that Spider-Man will be on four before ro tom punished it. Most Impressive
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Post by sostie on Nov 8, 2017 10:40:23 GMT
"Easily" is a bit strong. The main reason WW is top is that it received more reviews...that is the aspect of the formula that gives it a strong adjusted score, yet is has not beaten Thor Ragnarok or SMH on Fresh score, average rating or audience score. And if WW is at 108%...108% of what? as they state in the List the weighted Bayesian formulan is bto compensate for different review numbers and other factors to create a sound comparison basis, its like adjustment for inflation , necessary and used with business data, rot tom go through the effort with all genre Films to give a serious overview what is really best reviewed We had a Poster here who could do percentages calculations and he calculated correctly that Spider-Man will be on four before ro tom punished it. Most Impressive Right, I'm sure it's been covered many times before, but I still can't understand how adjusted scores can go up and down (as they did in the top 10 of that list over a few weeks in the summer when I was folowing them) whilst RT score, number of reviews - total, fresh and rotten, and average rating all remained the same. What is this mystery factor that seems to vary for each film. And if it's an adjusted score I assume it's the RT fresh score adjusted. So how can 92% of all reviews be fresh, but when adjusted 108% of all reviews are fresh! How can you have 108% of the total?!!!? I'm not asking you personally to answer these. I'm just throwing it out there.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Nov 8, 2017 10:48:48 GMT
as they state in the List the weighted Bayesian formulan is bto compensate for different review numbers and other factors to create a sound comparison basis, its like adjustment for inflation , necessary and used with business data, rot tom go through the effort with all genre Films to give a serious overview what is really best reviewed We had a Poster here who could do percentages calculations and he calculated correctly that Spider-Man will be on four before ro tom punished it. Most Impressive Right, I'm sure it's been covered many times before, but I still can't understand how adjusted scores can go up and down (as they did in the top 10 of that list over a few weeks in the summer when I was folowing them) whilst RT score, number of reviews - total, fresh and rotten, and average rating all remained the same. What is this mystery factor that seems to vary for each film. And if it's an adjusted score I assume it's the RT fresh score adjusted. So how can 92% of all reviews be fresh, but when adjusted 108% of all reviews are fresh! How can you have 108% of the total?!!!? I'm not asking you personally thought o answer these. I'm just throwing it out there. I learnd statistics and test construction at university but you are wise not to ask me, I sucked at it No clue but should find it out as general education worthy
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Post by sostie on Nov 8, 2017 11:03:56 GMT
Right, I'm sure it's been covered many times before, but I still can't understand how adjusted scores can go up and down (as they did in the top 10 of that list over a few weeks in the summer when I was folowing them) whilst RT score, number of reviews - total, fresh and rotten, and average rating all remained the same. What is this mystery factor that seems to vary for each film. And if it's an adjusted score I assume it's the RT fresh score adjusted. So how can 92% of all reviews be fresh, but when adjusted 108% of all reviews are fresh! How can you have 108% of the total?!!!? I'm not asking you personally thought o answer these. I'm just throwing it out there. I learnd statistics and test construction at university but you are wise not to ask me, I sucked at it No clue but should find it out as general education worthy I don't understand it. I shall take the Trumpian stance..."FAKE NEWS"
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Post by damngumby on Nov 8, 2017 12:10:41 GMT
It’s not the same group of critics used for the true RT score. It’s explained a bit better on the 100 Top Movies page. RT uses a “discrete” group of critics for their adjusted score. Who these people are is not revealed. It’s not the full group of RT critics that we can all see ... it’s not even the “Top Critics”. A comparison between Logan and TDK scores illustrates that pretty conclusively. The observation that the adjusted score will change even when there has been no change to the true RT score indicates that any input from this small “discrete” group of critics is completely independent of the RT reviews.
GIGO
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Post by DSDSquared on Nov 8, 2017 13:34:11 GMT
The Dark Knight The Winter Soldier Avengers Iron Man Days of Future's Past
Best CBMs ever made hands down. My top five at least. No way Wonder Woman or Thor 3 are better than any of these.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 8, 2017 14:11:16 GMT
Top 5, I'll take it. Though, the list is a bit of a joke. No way Spider-Man 2 isn't even in the top 5. And Lego Batman being in the top 10 and higher than Winter Soldier? I don't think so. And it's debatable with Logan, but The Dark Knight is far better than Wonder Woman and should be number one and I think anyone can agree with that. The whole adjusted score system is completely flawed. So Thor: Ragnarok isn't #1 and Wonder Woman is still #1? formersamhmd has been saying for a couple of months that Wonder Woman wouldn't last through the year at #1 because Thor: Ragnarok would be ranked higher. SMH and Thor: Ragnarok are supposedly 2 of MCUs highest-rated movies and yet Wonder Woman still beats both of them easily. Ragnarok's only been out for a few weeks, so we need to wait. Plus, WW's going to get another artificial booster thanks to the Weinstein scandal making it more politically correct to embrace movies about strong women.
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Post by miike80 on Nov 8, 2017 14:49:56 GMT
No day without" artificial boosters, ashamed of comics or bankrupt grounded approach"
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 8, 2017 14:55:38 GMT
No day without" artificial boosters, ashamed of comics or bankrupt grounded approach" At least DC is finally learning its lesson. All we can do is wait.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 8, 2017 15:00:45 GMT
The Dark Knight The Winter Soldier Avengers Iron Man Days of Future's Past Best CBMs ever made hands down. My top five at least. No way Wonder Woman or Thor 3 are better than any of these. This is a serious question that I have asked multiple times both here and on IMDB and never gotten a real answer so I am not trying to be argumentative. I am not a big fan of The Dark Knight but I understand why many people think it is good. However, Days of Future Past I don't understand. To me it was just ok. So please; What was so great about Days of Future Past?
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 8, 2017 15:02:32 GMT
I learnd statistics and test construction at university but you are wise not to ask me, I sucked at it No clue but should find it out as general education worthy I don't understand it. I shall take the Trumpian stance..."FAKE NEWS" Of course, if you go by that list, you have to admit that all of the MCU movies are in the top 50 and none of the other DCEU movies are.
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Post by sostie on Nov 8, 2017 15:06:49 GMT
I don't understand it. I shall take the Trumpian stance..."FAKE NEWS" Of course, if you go by that list, you have to admit that all of the MCU movies are in the top 50 and none of the other DCEU movies are. A point, when he quotes Wonder Woman's status on the list, I have made numerous times to DC-Fan...who conveniently ignores it
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Post by DSDSquared on Nov 8, 2017 18:16:03 GMT
The Dark Knight The Winter Soldier Avengers Iron Man Days of Future's Past Best CBMs ever made hands down. My top five at least. No way Wonder Woman or Thor 3 are better than any of these. This is a serious question that I have asked multiple times both here and on IMDB and never gotten a real answer so I am not trying to be argumentative. I am not a big fan of The Dark Knight but I understand why many people think it is good. However, Days of Future Past I don't understand. To me it was just ok. So please; What was so great about Days of Future Past? I just thought it was VERY well done. I was not the biggest fan of First Class. It was good, but not great IMO, but I loved the cast. DOFP was able to combine both casts and make it all make sense. The acting from most of the cast was fantastic and the movie was non-stop action and drama. I was blown away by it, but that's just me.
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Post by summers8 on Nov 8, 2017 18:26:49 GMT
Maybe all you extreme MCU and DC fans will stop your superficial obsession with Rotten Tomatoes once and for all. No one has ever used rt as actual proof that one film is better than the other only dumb people do that.
Do I think Batman Begins, TDK, X2, Spiderman 2 and DOFP are stronger films than WW? yes. I do. But I don't need rt to back me up. bottom line is W.W was a very good film and did a lot for female comic book movies.it was a film that DC needed badly and that is what matters.
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Post by formersamhmd on Nov 8, 2017 18:27:32 GMT
Maybe all you extreme MCU and DC fans will stop your superficial obsession with Rotten Tomatoes once and for all. Why? It's not like XCU fans are any better.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 8, 2017 18:46:55 GMT
Top 5, I'll take it. Though, the list is a bit of a joke. No way Spider-Man 2 isn't even in the top 5. And Lego Batman being in the top 10 and higher than Winter Soldier? I don't think so. And it's debatable with Logan, but The Dark Knight is far better than Wonder Woman and should be number one and I think anyone can agree with that. The whole adjusted score system is completely flawed. This is the top ten list from the article, as is: 10- lego batman movie 9- Incredibles 8- civil war 7- iron man 6- avengers 5- Thor Raganarok 4- spiderman homecoming 3- dark knight 2- logan 1- wonder woman
There are some I agree with and some I disagree with. Just for arguments sake, lets stick with the 10 on this list and rearrange them. IMO:
10- lego batman movie (shouldn't even be in top 20) 9- Incredibles (shouldn't even be in top 10) 8- Thor Raganarok (shouldn't even be in top 10) 7- spiderman homecoming (shouldn't even be in top 10)
...and then... 6- civil war 5- logan
4- avengers 3- iron man 2- wonder woman
1- dark knight
If this is a list of the best then where is Superman the Movie (1978)? Where is Batman (1989)? Where is Spiderman (2002), and Spiderman 2 (2004)? Where is X2:X-Men United (2003)? Where is Captain America: Winter Soldier (2014)? Where is X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014)? ALL of those movies are better than 7-10 on this list.
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Post by DSDSquared on Nov 8, 2017 19:20:31 GMT
Top 5, I'll take it. Though, the list is a bit of a joke. No way Spider-Man 2 isn't even in the top 5. And Lego Batman being in the top 10 and higher than Winter Soldier? I don't think so. And it's debatable with Logan, but The Dark Knight is far better than Wonder Woman and should be number one and I think anyone can agree with that. The whole adjusted score system is completely flawed. This is the top ten list from the article, as is: 10- lego batman movie 9- Incredibles 8- civil war 7- iron man 6- avengers 5- Thor Raganarok 4- spiderman homecoming 3- dark knight 2- logan 1- wonder woman
There are some I agree with and some I disagree with. Just for arguments sake, lets stick with the 10 on this list and rearrange them. IMO:
10- lego batman movie (shouldn't even be in top 20) 9- Incredibles (shouldn't even be in top 10) 8- Thor Raganarok (shouldn't even be in top 10) 7- spiderman homecoming (shouldn't even be in top 10)
...and then... 6- civil war 5- logan
4- avengers 3- iron man 2- wonder woman
1- dark knight
If this is a list of the best then where is Superman the Movie (1978)? Where is Batman (1989)? Where is Spiderman (2002), and Spiderman 2 (2004)? Where is X2:X-Men United (2003)? Where is Captain America: Winter Soldier (2014)? Where is X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014)? ALL of those movies are better than 7-10 on this list.
Civil War has to be the most overrated of all the MCU movies. I like it a lot, but on no planet is it better than The Winter Soldier.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 8, 2017 20:17:53 GMT
This is the top ten list from the article, as is: 10- lego batman movie 9- Incredibles 8- civil war 7- iron man 6- avengers 5- Thor Raganarok 4- spiderman homecoming 3- dark knight 2- logan 1- wonder woman
There are some I agree with and some I disagree with. Just for arguments sake, lets stick with the 10 on this list and rearrange them. IMO:
10- lego batman movie (shouldn't even be in top 20) 9- Incredibles (shouldn't even be in top 10) 8- Thor Raganarok (shouldn't even be in top 10) 7- spiderman homecoming (shouldn't even be in top 10)
...and then... 6- civil war 5- logan
4- avengers 3- iron man 2- wonder woman
1- dark knight
If this is a list of the best then where is Superman the Movie (1978)? Where is Batman (1989)? Where is Spiderman (2002), and Spiderman 2 (2004)? Where is X2:X-Men United (2003)? Where is Captain America: Winter Soldier (2014)? Where is X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014)? ALL of those movies are better than 7-10 on this list.
Civil War has to be the most overrated of all the MCU movies. I like it a lot, but on no planet is it better than The Winter Soldier. For me Civil War takes the story that Winter Solider set up and takes it to the next level, making it bigger, by including all the Avengers and even finding a clever way of introducing Spiderman. Don't get me wrong, I also like Winter Soldier. For me its the movie where Marvel grew into truly mature super hero movies. And the casting coup of Robert Redford was a nice touch.
But in your opinion, what makes Winter Soldier better than Civil War?
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