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Post by HirundoRustica on Jan 19, 2018 13:49:51 GMT
Lagertha's relationship with Hehmund is pretty big too. Yes. I liked that development. I can't wait to see Ivar's face when he realizes Heahmund is (oh so willingly) fighting on Lagertha's side. Heheh.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jan 24, 2018 22:01:25 GMT
Just watched episode 9 of Season 5 last night. **spoilers below if you haven’t seen it** I’ve been rather lukewarm on Bishop Heahmund thus far...but his teaming up with Lagertha makes me like him a bit more. While I do like the two of them together (and I think they have chemistry), I still can’t entirely trust JRM’s character and I certainly hope he doesn’t go backstabby on Lagertha. I liked the part where she asked him if he wanted to sin again. And no one blows out candles as sexily as Lagertha does. Screw Rollo for not siding with Lagertha (didn’t he used to have a thing for her?) and only insisting that Ivar spare Bjorn. I liked the scene near the end showing Heahmund kneeling before Lagertha and receiving the sword which was intercut with the scenes of Alfred receiving his captor as he was crowned King and Floki dropping to his knees as his Thor temple went up in flames. I liked the scenes with Judith (I’m glad she’s getting more to do – plus we got to see her non-ear! Which is a change, since it’s usually covered up with a side 'do). That was some allergic reaction Æthelwulf had to that bug. He kind of resembled the alien character played by Vincent D’Onofrio in Men in Black when he pulls his face/skin back, I thought. Of course Flokiland went to crap in no time - given the way he was running the place. He’s still doing jack all to help build the place, I see. And those poor sacrificed animals! That’s one of my least favourite aspects of this show, whenever they do that. Here’s hoping Margrethe doesn’t make it out of the next episode alive. She’s right up there as one of the worst characters this show has ever created (alongside Ragnar’s drug dealer from the first half of Season 4, Rollo’s annoying French wife and that loathsome little gnome of King Haraldson’s back in Season 1).
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Post by 5hole on Jan 25, 2018 5:10:33 GMT
Whoever directed episode 10 should have a grenade shoved up their ass. What an abortion. #Shame
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 25, 2018 16:55:39 GMT
Last night's mid-season finale was off the hook!
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Post by bluerisk on Jan 25, 2018 22:47:45 GMT
I was about half the time in fast forward...this fucking wannabe Nietzsche.
And how can you possibly root for this smirking psycho Ivar? Even Wuff Wuff and Heahmund have regrets or even defected him. The only good scenen when Ivar saw Heahmund...Nobody, really nobody love you Ivar. (except for your fan-boys).
Ivar: "Come, fight me!" - the wind? Well, how's about joining the fight?! This guys is only talk the talk, never walk the walk. Everbody else was fighting and suffering. Harald lost his brother, his love and wife, and his heir.
And - of course - no arrow can hit Ivar, but all all his men fall lies flies.
Now Rollo:
I have never understood why he sided with Harald and Ivar, when his relation were so much closer to Björn and Lagertha. And a war will also cost Frankia a lot of gold and men; how do you explain it to the emporer, the nobility, and also to the smallfolk? Explain the many, to quote the High Sparrow,* why they have to pay taxes and lose their sons for nothing at the end of the world?!
There is a reason why Frankia never went for a Scandinavian campaign. Spain is still occupied by Muslim powers which have several times tried to invade farther North.
"...when the many stpped fearing the few?"
Rollo can't do as he like, nor can any Viking leader. That's why this stupid civil war never happened, and why Frankia defended its Southern borders...
As fo history: Hirst takes the next step: after killing Sigurd, staging this civil war, introducing the Frank: he seems to have killed of Guthrum: the leader to come of the Danelaw (with Ubbe) the main antagonist of Alfred and the future king of East Anglia.
Fuck Hirst!
This show is purely fuctional now, and it is it in the worst possible way. When Lost and Battlestar Galactica also started to focus more and more onto this pseudo-religious crap (Jacob, the final fiv etc. pp.), it all knew only one direction: downhill.
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Post by bluerisk on Jan 25, 2018 22:51:58 GMT
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Post by HirundoRustica on Jan 28, 2018 14:49:43 GMT
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jan 31, 2018 22:31:11 GMT
Well, we got episode 10 of Season 5 (‘Moments of Vision’) here last night. **spoilers below** There was definitely ‘choppiness’ going on throughout the episode – and I don’t just mean with swords. While I appreciate that they attempted to tell this episode in a non-linear fashion for something 'different', it did lead to moments of “What? Huh? What’s going on?” at times. I did like that we got to see what each character was doing before the battle...but some of those ‘vision’ sequences were rather bizarre. They offed quite a few characters in this episode - the blonde brother, Not-Bjorn’s child, Not-Torvi – though none of these characters really mattered to me. And while I didn’t hate Astrid, I’m not going to particularly miss her either. Though I did think her and Lagertha’s final scene together was a good one. Lagertha certainly made short work of taking her out. I’m sure she will miss ‘sexytimes’ with Astrid (since, after Ragnar, there really hasn’t been a decent guy for her. It was a bit odd that all she needed before she said, "Now I can die." was a kiss from Bishop Heahmund). I was so worried for Lagertha throughout the entire episode (as I have been for most of this season thus far and will likely continue to be until she meets whatever fate Hirst has in store for her), but especially when she was holding the dying Astrid, every time she’d pause in the middle of battle, and at the end of the episode. I still don’t care about what’s going on in Flokiland. Everything he said about himself failing his new community was true, but as far as him sacrificing himself goes...I’ll believe that when I see it. This storyline has definitely felt 'detached' from the rest, and it being filled with mostly characters I don’t know/care about means it’s not particularly interesting for me. The battle scenes were quite gruesome in parts (though I still think the previous episode has it beat in the ‘gruesome injuries/deaths’ department – unless some stuff was cut from the version of episode 10 that I saw). Ivar truly is the worst – and not in a ‘good’ way. Him telling Lagertha not to be a ‘coward’ and to come fight him - when he was far away, safe, and didn’t do one bit of fighting - just showed that *he* is the actual coward. Lagertha was right in the thick of things, fighting, while he just sat back and watched, yet he has the gall to call her a ‘coward’? Shut up, Ivar. And it seems he can get around on those leg braces with no trouble at all (no longer even needing the crutch). So he really doesn’t warrant the name ‘Ivar the Boneless’, since he’s walking around like every other person now. And of course his plot armour is so strong that not a single arrow hits him despite the fact that he should’ve resembled a pincushion. Just watched the trailer of the next episode which you provided the link for, HirundoRustica – and all I can say is...Ivar has become completely ridiculous now. That crazy makeup? I think someone else put it best: he’s too ‘try-hard’ now. I know he’s got his fans (their love for him seems scarier than Ivar himself), but at this point...I think the Seer's line about how the mad might inherit the earth is looking more and more likely to proven true. Speaking of the Eyeless One...I’m surprised he didn’t toss Margrethe out on her arse as soon as she turned up. I can’t imagine how anyone stands her. She always seems to have this stupid look on her face, and I’m glad that the Seer said he didn’t ‘think’ she was mad, he knew that she was. The biggest crime of this episode is that Margrethe still lives! WHY didn’t you run her through, Torvi? She should’ve been offed many episodes ago. If she manages to outlive Lagertha...that'll be just too much. If that trailer is to be believed regarding Lagertha...I think that might be the cutting off point with this show for me. I think I’d prefer what I read somewhere else - that after what the Seer said about a son of Ragnar being the one to kill her, it winds up being Bjorn doing a mercy killing for her because she’s just become so drained like Ragnar was at the end (plus he’d rather give her a merciful death than let Ivar get a hold of her). Obviously, my main hope would be that Lagertha would just go off to live out the rest of her life somewhere else (perhaps meeting up with Þórunn so they could be awesome together)...but I doubt that’s going to happen. I think the next episode really will determine whether I continue with this show or not. It all depends on the treatment of Lagertha. Without Travis Fimmel, Katheryn Winnick is the star of this show as far as I’m concerned, and there’s really no one I give two figs about enough to continue with the show if she’s not around. While it was interesting to see Rollo at the end, it would’ve been at least somewhat of a surprise had they not included his name in the opening credits. And as for Lagertha going all Daenerys Targaryen in the hair department at the end...she certainly rocks that look (and hopefully it will silence some of those complaining about her not looking her age). This first half of Season 5 has been rather ‘hit & miss’ for me, though still not as painful as the first half of Season 4 was (Druggie Ragnar still has yet to be beaten for ‘low point’ in the series, imho). Michael Hirst had better not screw over the character of Lagertha (or Katheryn Winnick, for that matter) in the next episode. At this point, I don’t think it would be hard to bid farewell to the show if they unceremoniously off her. Both the character and actress deserve better.
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Post by HirundoRustica on Jul 23, 2018 14:14:47 GMT
Finally there's a return date for Season 5B, it'll be back November 28th.
New trailer:
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jul 23, 2018 22:57:35 GMT
Finally there's a return date for Season 5B, it'll be back November 28th.
New trailer:
Thanks for the video, Hirundo...though it still doesn't put me at ease regarding Lagertha and whether she survives or not. I don't want her to go! She's still rocking the grey hair, though, I see. If this is indeed her last season on the show, I hope she gets plenty of screentime and goes out swinging/fighting at least...and hopefully gives Ivar an arse-kicking in the process. Speaking of...Ivar still looks like a clown. And the scariest thing about him remains those 'fans' of his who see him as the 'good guy'/'hero'. The budget seems to have increased quite a bit, as there was one shot from the trailer in particular that looked like it was from a movie. I hope what Katheryn Winnick says in this 2018 Comic Con panel at 46:58 means Lagertha will be sticking around. It's far too long to wait for the second half of Season 5!
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 1, 2018 15:14:58 GMT
Counting the days until November 28th. I love this show.
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Post by bluerisk on Aug 1, 2018 16:38:56 GMT
Counting the days until November 28th. I love this show.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 20, 2018 17:35:51 GMT
Counting the days until November 28th. I love this show. Do you watch The Last Kingdom? It's a much better interpretation of history, from the Anglo-Saxon perspective. I enjoyed the first two seasons of Vikings but the quality has gone downhill with each season after that. It's completely off the rails now, and as you said earlier it has virtually nothing to do with actual history at this point. TLK isn't perfect with its history either, but it at least tries to use history as a template and the first two seasons have historical easter eggs thrown in as well. Season 3 just debuted on Netflix yesterday. I'm still going to watch Vikings, but this will probably be the last season for me. I don't know who decided Ivar was an interesting character, but I certainly don't concur. Characters switch allegiances constantly and for no reason other than the writers didn't know what else to do. Lagertha must be in her 50s by now and hasn't aged a day. Nothing makes sense on this show anymore. I think peak Vikings (probably season 2) is probably better than any single season of The Last Kingdom in terms of pure quality entertainment, but the last few seasons of Vikings have descended into chaos as the writers throw stuff against a wall and see what sticks. I'm much more excited about TLK than Vikings. Edit: I just saw another of your previous posts where you mention TLK. Anyway let this post serve as an advertisement to Vikings fans for TLK. If you like Vikings, I think you'll enjoy The Last Kingdom quite a bit as well.
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Post by bluerisk on Nov 20, 2018 18:14:45 GMT
Do you watch The Last Kingdom? It's a much better interpretation of history, from the Anglo-Saxon perspective. I enjoyed the first two seasons of Vikings but the quality has gone downhill with each season after that. It's completely off the rails now, and as you said earlier it has virtually nothing to do with actual history at this point. TLK isn't perfect with its history either, but it at least tries to use history as a template and the first two seasons have historical easter eggs thrown in as well. Season 3 just debuted on Netflix yesterday. I'm still going to watch Vikings, but this will probably be the last season for me. I don't know who decided Ivar was an interesting character, but I certainly don't concur. Characters switch allegiances constantly and for no reason other than the writers didn't know what else to do. Lagertha must be in her 50s by now and hasn't aged a day. Nothing makes sense on this show anymore. I think peak Vikings (probably season 2) is probably better than any single season of The Last Kingdom in terms of pure quality entertainment, but the last few seasons of Vikings have descended into chaos as the writers throw stuff against a wall and see what sticks. I'm much more excited about TLK than Vikings. Edit: I just saw another of your previous posts where you mention TLK. Anyway let this post serve as an advertisement to Vikings fans for TLK. If you like Vikings, I think you'll enjoy The Last Kingdom quite a bit as well. I do, and I like it better than Vikings. And I intend to watch the first episode (season 3) this week. I wished I could pair it with "The Expanse" like last time. If I also despise Ivar the Useless? Absolutely! I had my fair share of rants in the comment section of many,many Viking clips on Youtube. I hate him with passion - all his damn plot armour. This one is a total remainer of the the camp Lagertha/Björn. If they kill them off - and they killed Guthrum!!! - I'm out. PS: I also hardly cared for Ragnar and Egbert before the died. And what did they do to Floki...why always this religious bullshit => Lost, Battelstar Galactica... PS: I also got the first two season on blu-ray...now Netflix. Awesome that they picked it up...but they tend to keep it available online only.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 20, 2018 18:35:15 GMT
Do you watch The Last Kingdom? It's a much better interpretation of history, from the Anglo-Saxon perspective. I enjoyed the first two seasons of Vikings but the quality has gone downhill with each season after that. It's completely off the rails now, and as you said earlier it has virtually nothing to do with actual history at this point. TLK isn't perfect with its history either, but it at least tries to use history as a template and the first two seasons have historical easter eggs thrown in as well. Season 3 just debuted on Netflix yesterday. I'm still going to watch Vikings, but this will probably be the last season for me. I don't know who decided Ivar was an interesting character, but I certainly don't concur. Characters switch allegiances constantly and for no reason other than the writers didn't know what else to do. Lagertha must be in her 50s by now and hasn't aged a day. Nothing makes sense on this show anymore. I think peak Vikings (probably season 2) is probably better than any single season of The Last Kingdom in terms of pure quality entertainment, but the last few seasons of Vikings have descended into chaos as the writers throw stuff against a wall and see what sticks. I'm much more excited about TLK than Vikings. Edit: I just saw another of your previous posts where you mention TLK. Anyway let this post serve as an advertisement to Vikings fans for TLK. If you like Vikings, I think you'll enjoy The Last Kingdom quite a bit as well. I do, and I like it better than Vikings. And I intend to watch the first episode (season 3) this week. I wished I could pair it with "The Expanse" like last time. If I also despise Ivar the Useless? Absolutely! I had my fair share of rants in the comment section of many,many Viking clips on Youtube. I hate him with passion - all his damn plot armour. This one is a total remainer of the the camp Lagertha/Björn. If they kill them off - and they killed Guthrum!!! - I'm out. PS: I also hardly cared for Ragnar and Egbert before the died. And what did they do to Floki...why always this religious bullshit => Lost, Battelstar Galactica... PS: I also got the first two season on blu-ray...now Netflix. Awesome that they picked it up...but they tend to keep it available online only. Yeah that's the downside of Netflix, they tend to keep their content to themselves. And as much as I like TLK, I don't want it to keep going forever if they venture too far from actual history. I like fantasy like Game of Thrones of course, but I'd prefer at least one show to focus on history, which is just as fascinating as anything you'll find in the world of Ice and Fire. This show sounds great www.imdb.com/title/tt8146868/ , but the commercial I saw made me question its production value. I'll have to check it out sometime. Anyway I expect the twist at the end of this Vikings season to be Bjorn showing up in a panzer.
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Post by bluerisk on Nov 20, 2018 19:56:45 GMT
I do, and I like it better than Vikings. And I intend to watch the first episode (season 3) this week. I wished I could pair it with "The Expanse" like last time. If I also despise Ivar the Useless? Absolutely! I had my fair share of rants in the comment section of many,many Viking clips on Youtube. I hate him with passion - all his damn plot armour. This one is a total remainer of the the camp Lagertha/Björn. If they kill them off - and they killed Guthrum!!! - I'm out. PS: I also hardly cared for Ragnar and Egbert before the died. And what did they do to Floki...why always this religious bullshit => Lost, Battelstar Galactica... PS: I also got the first two season on blu-ray...now Netflix. Awesome that they picked it up...but they tend to keep it available online only. Yeah that's the downside of Netflix, they tend to keep their content to themselves. And as much as I like TLK, I don't want it to keep going forever if they venture too far from actual history. I like fantasy like Game of Thrones of course, but I'd prefer at least one show to focus on history, which is just as fascinating as anything you'll find in the world of Ice and Fire. This show sounds great www.imdb.com/title/tt8146868/ , but the commercial I saw made me question its production value. I'll have to check it out sometime. Anyway I expect the twist at the end of this Vikings season to be Bjorn showing up in a panzer. Absolutely. "Rome" is a perfect example, even "I, Claudius" albeit it has a completely different tone, more theater than a TV show but also impressive and taking over from Rome in concern of the time period.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 28, 2018 21:57:09 GMT
Do you watch The Last Kingdom? It's a much better interpretation of history, from the Anglo-Saxon perspective. I enjoyed the first two seasons of Vikings but the quality has gone downhill with each season after that. It's completely off the rails now, and as you said earlier it has virtually nothing to do with actual history at this point. TLK isn't perfect with its history either, but it at least tries to use history as a template and the first two seasons have historical easter eggs thrown in as well. Season 3 just debuted on Netflix yesterday. I'm still going to watch Vikings, but this will probably be the last season for me. I don't know who decided Ivar was an interesting character, but I certainly don't concur. Characters switch allegiances constantly and for no reason other than the writers didn't know what else to do. Lagertha must be in her 50s by now and hasn't aged a day. Nothing makes sense on this show anymore. I think peak Vikings (probably season 2) is probably better than any single season of The Last Kingdom in terms of pure quality entertainment, but the last few seasons of Vikings have descended into chaos as the writers throw stuff against a wall and see what sticks. I'm much more excited about TLK than Vikings. Edit: I just saw another of your previous posts where you mention TLK. Anyway let this post serve as an advertisement to Vikings fans for TLK. If you like Vikings, I think you'll enjoy The Last Kingdom quite a bit as well. I have not seen the Last Kingdom. Maybe someday.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Nov 29, 2018 12:52:33 GMT
Do you watch The Last Kingdom? It's a much better interpretation of history, from the Anglo-Saxon perspective. I enjoyed the first two seasons of Vikings but the quality has gone downhill with each season after that. It's completely off the rails now, and as you said earlier it has virtually nothing to do with actual history at this point. TLK isn't perfect with its history either, but it at least tries to use history as a template and the first two seasons have historical easter eggs thrown in as well. Season 3 just debuted on Netflix yesterday. I'm still going to watch Vikings, but this will probably be the last season for me. I don't know who decided Ivar was an interesting character, but I certainly don't concur. Characters switch allegiances constantly and for no reason other than the writers didn't know what else to do. Lagertha must be in her 50s by now and hasn't aged a day. Nothing makes sense on this show anymore. I think peak Vikings (probably season 2) is probably better than any single season of The Last Kingdom in terms of pure quality entertainment, but the last few seasons of Vikings have descended into chaos as the writers throw stuff against a wall and see what sticks. I'm much more excited about TLK than Vikings. Edit: I just saw another of your previous posts where you mention TLK. Anyway let this post serve as an advertisement to Vikings fans for TLK. If you like Vikings, I think you'll enjoy The Last Kingdom quite a bit as well. I have not seen the Last Kingdom. Maybe someday. I highly recommend it to Vikings fans. It's not as 'out there' as Vikings but it's a fun watch whether you're a stickler for history or not.
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Post by HirundoRustica on Dec 1, 2018 15:03:17 GMT
I just found out there's only five eps in season 5B (I thought there would be at least 10, like there was last season). Why oh why did we have to wait a year for only five episodes? Anyways, here's the promo for episode 12:
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 1, 2018 22:23:39 GMT
Are you sure? IMDB says 10 eps in 5B.
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