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Post by yezziqa on Mar 5, 2017 19:04:59 GMT
At some point I realized I had been to several graves of people of historical note. So when traveling, I began to purposely increase that number if convenient. Adding to that collection became like a hobby. My list is now over a hundred names (including some famous animals) in the US and Europe. I find a graveyard much more interesting when the tombstones are not all nearly identical. So usually the older the better. The best one I've seen is Père Lachaise in Paris. Sometimes people even eat lunch there. The Zentralfriedhof in Vienna is the largest in Europe and also has many unique graves.
Have you been to Skogskyrkogården (The Woodland cemetary)? It's a World Heritage Site and Greta Garbo is buried there.
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Post by Sulla on Mar 5, 2017 19:14:31 GMT
I love sculpture on tombs and graves also, though I didn't have that fascination some thirty years ago when I visited Germany and Austria.
The local ones I visit are mostly older, and I love the ones that resemble logs; a Midwestern USA kind of thing. There is a wonderful sculpture of an angel in a small town not far from me; I've photographed her in different lighting and angles many times. Each photo is different, though the same sculpture - that's the fascination of sculpture; one work of art viewed many ways.
I've seen those logs. Isn't that a symbol of the fraternal society, Modern Woodmen of America?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 19:20:26 GMT
I used to walk my dog in one. Visited it many, many times.
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Post by Sulla on Mar 5, 2017 19:22:33 GMT
At some point I realized I had been to several graves of people of historical note. So when traveling, I began to purposely increase that number if convenient. Adding to that collection became like a hobby. My list is now over a hundred names (including some famous animals) in the US and Europe. I find a graveyard much more interesting when the tombstones are not all nearly identical. So usually the older the better. The best one I've seen is Père Lachaise in Paris. Sometimes people even eat lunch there. The Zentralfriedhof in Vienna is the largest in Europe and also has many unique graves.
Have you been to Skogskyrkogården (The Woodland cemetary)? It's a World Heritage Site and Greta Garbo is buried there. No, unfortunately I've only been in your country for about five hours in Helsingborg. It was the Winter solstice and everyone was getting ready for Christmas. My friend and I couldn't stay outside too long because we're from Florida. The people were nice, though
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Post by alanbloor on Mar 5, 2017 19:24:40 GMT
I research my family history, so I sometimes visit graveyards to look at memorial inscriptions of distant relatives.
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Post by yezziqa on Mar 5, 2017 19:36:53 GMT
Have you been to Skogskyrkogården (The Woodland cemetary)? It's a World Heritage Site and Greta Garbo is buried there. No, unfortunately I've only been in your country for about five hours in Helsingborg. It was the Winter solstice and everyone was getting ready for Christmas. My friend and I couldn't stay outside too long because we're from Florida. The people were nice, though
So should I take that as that you are not planning a vacation to the Ice hotel in Jukkasjärvi? Helsingborg doesn't even have real winters, it gets worse the futher north you go. By Stephan Herz (User:Stephan_Herz) - Own work, CC BY 2.5, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=485147commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Icehotel-se-10.JPG
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Post by PanLeo on Mar 5, 2017 19:41:19 GMT
Only graves of fallen or dead Irish republicans or other historical figures.
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Post by Sulla on Mar 5, 2017 20:07:22 GMT
No, unfortunately I've only been in your country for about five hours in Helsingborg. It was the Winter solstice and everyone was getting ready for Christmas. My friend and I couldn't stay outside too long because we're from Florida. The people were nice, though
So should I take that as that you are not planning a vacation to the Ice hotel in Jukkasjärvi? Helsingborg doesn't even have real winters, it gets worse the futher north you go. By Stephan Herz (User:Stephan_Herz) - Own work, CC BY 2.5, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=485147commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Icehotel-se-10.JPGNow that is really cool! I would if I had the time. I'd just wear more clothes. I don't mind the cold as long as I'm properly dressed for it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2017 20:40:46 GMT
I do when I am near one.
Funny story. One night I was with my boyfriend at the time and we were driving around, it was around 2am and we stop at a cemetery. I had never been to this one before and assumed it would be closed but we found a way in. As soon as we entered I wanted to go a certain direction and he wanted to go in the other so I followed him. We were walking by the outdoor mausoleums and he took me to see his grandma. After that we were just walking around and we heard what sounded like distant voices so we were like oh crap because we thought it was the cops or security and we were going to get busted for trespassing. So we are walking around really quietly and looking around corners to try not getting caught but we never found any people. All of a sudden there was this big breeze out of nowhere and as it blew through us we heard the voices again. After the breeze left we didnt hear anymore voices. After that he wanted to leave so we were walking to leave but I still wanted to go to this far off area behind this tall hedge before we left. He didnt want to go so he stayed on the path and I told him I would be back and went exploring. I guess I was gone awhile because finally he pops up and is freaking out. I had found this really odd headstone that had no name, no date and 3 picture/designs carved into the headstone. He started freaking out even more and was like 'we have to leave' so we go. We get out to the car and he starts saying that he saw a ghost and that we are bringing something 'evil' back with us and drove us to a church at like 4am and tried to throw 'holy dirt' on me. That was my breaking point. I can only put up with so much nonsense and I am not going to let someone throw dirt on me because they are superstitious. We ended up having a big fight.
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Post by awhina on Mar 5, 2017 23:27:21 GMT
Not as a rule, no. My family are all over the place in different cities and countries. The dead have all moved on, anyway. I have a friend who visits gravesyards for genealogical reasons.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Mar 6, 2017 14:14:14 GMT
I love sculpture on tombs and graves also, though I didn't have that fascination some thirty years ago when I visited Germany and Austria.
The local ones I visit are mostly older, and I love the ones that resemble logs; a Midwestern USA kind of thing. There is a wonderful sculpture of an angel in a small town not far from me; I've photographed her in different lighting and angles many times. Each photo is different, though the same sculpture - that's the fascination of sculpture; one work of art viewed many ways.
I've seen those logs. Isn't that a symbol of the fraternal society, Modern Woodmen of America? I don't know - looks like I will be Googling and revisiting! Thanks for the info!
Edit: You were right! I learned something new today. Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia about the founding of this fraternal order, with a few bolded points of interest. The founder went on to found another fraternal order, Woodsmen of the World, in 1890.
"Modern Woodmen of America was founded by Joseph Cullen Root on January 5, 1883, in Lyons, Iowa.[2] He had operated a number of businesses, including a mercantile establishment, a grain elevator and two flour mills, sold insurance and real estate, taught bookkeeping classes, managed a lecture bureau, and practiced law.[3] Root was a member of several fraternal societies throughout the years. He wanted to create an organization that would protect families following the death of a breadwinner.[3]
During a Sunday sermon, Root heard the pastor tell a parable about pioneer woodmen clearing away forests to build homes, communities and security for their families. He adopted the term "woodmen" for his organization. To complete the name, he added "modern" to reflect the need to stay current and change with the times, and "of America" to symbolize patriotism.[4]
Originally, Modern Woodmen had a unique set of membership restrictions and criteria. Religiously, the group was quite open, accepting "Jew and Gentile, the Catholic and Protestant, the agnostic and the atheist." However, until the mid-1900s, membership was restricted to white males between the ages of 18-45 from the 12 "healthiest" states -- Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, the Dakotas, Nebraska and Kansas. Residents of large cities were also disqualified from membership, as were those employed in certain professions, such as railway workers, underground miners, gunpowder factory employees, liqueur wholesalers and manufacturers, saloon keepers, "aeronauts," sailors on the lakes and seas, and professional baseball players.[5]" ...
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Post by Sulla on Mar 6, 2017 17:26:20 GMT
I've seen those logs. Isn't that a symbol of the fraternal society, Modern Woodmen of America? I don't know - looks like I will be Googling and revisiting! Thanks for the info!
Edit: You were right! I learned something new today. Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia about the founding of this fraternal order, with a few bolded points of interest. The founder went on to found another fraternal order, Woodsmen of the World, in 1890.
"Modern Woodmen of America was founded by Joseph Cullen Root on January 5, 1883, in Lyons, Iowa.[2] He had operated a number of businesses, including a mercantile establishment, a grain elevator and two flour mills, sold insurance and real estate, taught bookkeeping classes, managed a lecture bureau, and practiced law.[3] Root was a member of several fraternal societies throughout the years. He wanted to create an organization that would protect families following the death of a breadwinner.[3]
During a Sunday sermon, Root heard the pastor tell a parable about pioneer woodmen clearing away forests to build homes, communities and security for their families. He adopted the term "woodmen" for his organization. To complete the name, he added "modern" to reflect the need to stay current and change with the times, and "of America" to symbolize patriotism.[4]
Originally, Modern Woodmen had a unique set of membership restrictions and criteria. Religiously, the group was quite open, accepting "Jew and Gentile, the Catholic and Protestant, the agnostic and the atheist." However, until the mid-1900s, membership was restricted to white males between the ages of 18-45 from the 12 "healthiest" states -- Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, the Dakotas, Nebraska and Kansas. Residents of large cities were also disqualified from membership, as were those employed in certain professions, such as railway workers, underground miners, gunpowder factory employees, liqueur wholesalers and manufacturers, saloon keepers, "aeronauts," sailors on the lakes and seas, and professional baseball players.[5]" ...
I can't remember who told me that. They must have a fairly large membership because I've seen those logs in quite a few cemeteries.
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Post by phludowin on Mar 6, 2017 18:05:57 GMT
Graveyards are quiet, and often green. I once lived in a place where the graveyard was the closest green area, so I sometimes took a walk there.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Mar 6, 2017 18:23:58 GMT
Sure. Gotta visit Dad now and again.
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