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Post by geode on Mar 5, 2017 22:27:55 GMT
I realized that precious few shows have been discussed on this board so far and started pondering some that could be mentioned. I found this list of 60 shows and it appears that they include shows not so popular in their day that now have a loyal following on DVD, Youtube, Netflix, etc. 60 cult Tv shows
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Post by vrkalak on Mar 6, 2017 2:03:22 GMT
I realized that precious few shows have been discussed on this board so far and started pondering some that could be mentioned. I found this list of 60 shows and it appears that they include shows not so popular in their day that now have a loyal following on DVD, Youtube, Netflix, etc. 60 cult Tv showsBad list, no Wild Wild West.
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Post by geode on Mar 6, 2017 4:25:46 GMT
I realized that precious few shows have been discussed on this board so far and started pondering some that could be mentioned. I found this list of 60 shows and it appears that they include shows not so popular in their day that now have a loyal following on DVD, Youtube, Netflix, etc. 60 cult Tv showsBad list, no Wild Wild West. In my opinion The Wild, Wild West was too successful in its time to really be a cult show, but I know definitions about this are not precise and that is why I started the thread. I think too many shows have been included in this list, not too few. For instance Maverick and Perry Mason were very popular in their first broadcast and quite mainstream.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 22:54:40 GMT
Bad list, no Wild Wild West. In my opinion The Wild, Wild West was too successful in its time to really be a cult show, but I know definitions about this are not precise and that is why I started the thread. I think too many shows have been included in this list, not too few. For instance Maverick and Perry Mason were very popular in their first broadcast and quite mainstream. Definitely. Married With Children had a cult following but it was not an unsuccessful show. There's a difference between something that is a "cult classic" and something that has a cult following. I would call a cult show something that gained a larger following and level of appreciation after it was already gone. Like Invader Zim or Freaks and Geeks or Jack of All Trades or Firefly (which is listed). I think the rules for defining a TV show as "cult" should be as follows: 1) It should have been relatively obscure in its own time; 2) It should have a small but highly devoted fan-base; 3) It should be more popular after the fact than when it aired. That's just my opinion on it.
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Post by geode on Mar 6, 2017 23:40:54 GMT
In my opinion The Wild, Wild West was too successful in its time to really be a cult show, but I know definitions about this are not precise and that is why I started the thread. I think too many shows have been included in this list, not too few. For instance Maverick and Perry Mason were very popular in their first broadcast and quite mainstream. Definitely. Married With Children had a cult following but it was not an unsuccessful show. There's a difference between something that is a "cult classic" and something that has a cult following. I would call a cult show something that gained a larger following and level of appreciation after it was already gone. Like Invader Zim or Freaks and Geeks or Jack of All Trades or Firefly (which is listed). I think the rules for defining a TV show as "cult" should be as follows: 1) It should have been relatively obscure in its own time; 2) It should have a small but highly devoted fan-base; 3) It should be more popular after the fact than when it aired. That's just my opinion on it. I think I agree with you on every point you make. Not really much need to add more.
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Post by telegonus on Mar 12, 2017 8:49:33 GMT
I more or less agree with those definitions of what defines a cult TV show, though I think the length of its run is or ought to be a factor as well. Examples: two Blake Edwards series from late Fifties-early Sixties, Peter Gunn and Mr. Lucky, rather similar shows in many respects, and both far more sophisticated than most of what was being offered in prime time back then. However, and this is a biggie, Peter Gunn was a solid hit even as it only lasted three seasons (I think of three seasons as sort of the cut off point for what constitutes a hit). Also, Henry Mancini's pulsating theme for the show became an instant classic. To be fair to the other show, it too featured a great score and it also had a following, and it still does. I find it more magical and playful than the more (shall we say) emphatic Gunn score, but that's another matter. My point: Peter Gunn is classic TV, Mr. Lucky, cult. At the time it probably didn't seem that way, as Lucky had a following and was well known, but over time it's become sort of semi-forgotten.
It's much the same with westerns, with (like it or not) Bat Masterson classic, The Rebel, to the extent that it has a following, cult. Sci-Fi and fantasy: Twilight Zone, classic, Way Out, cult. One Step Beyond is somewhere in-between. I consider it cult even as it ran, officially, three seasons, (actually two and a half). It was somewhat "disreputable" in its day for some reason, and not well regarded like the TZ. I can't quite put my finger on why. For some reason I don't regard the two season horror anthology Thriller as cult, as it's always had a following, has done well in reruns, and seems to attract all kinds of people. Okay, so I'm inconsistent. Sometimes things just happen that way.The Outer Limits I'd call borderline, for while it ran for less than two full seasons it's been in reruns constantly since its first run, and that's fifty years! Also, many people involved with the show have major reputations; and it's viewed by many as a sort of black and white dry run for Star Trek in being "thinking man's sci-fi"; and many of the same creative people were involved with both TOL and ST. In my book, both are classic.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 17, 2017 0:25:48 GMT
A television series that has a devoted fanbase and often adheres and/or caters to a certain genre or even mashes them up. I don't think the size of the fanbase matters anymore but the degree of their devotion is what counts more often these days.
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Post by telegonus on Mar 17, 2017 7:09:14 GMT
I realized that precious few shows have been discussed on this board so far and started pondering some that could be mentioned. I found this list of 60 shows and it appears that they include shows not so popular in their day that now have a loyal following on DVD, Youtube, Netflix, etc. 60 cult Tv showsMaybe one way to define what makes a TV show a cult classic is to list shows that are not cult classics, especially if they're well known and well remembered but don't seem to have legs. Almost all the spy, secret agent and foreign intrigue type shows from the Sixties, the American ones, even if they were hits, have not survived at the cult level, though some may disagree: The Man From UNCLE, I Spy and Mission: Impossible come to mind. The highly popular secret agent spoof, Get Smart does not IMHO hold up well. They run it on MeTV, so maybe some people still like it. The Fugitive knockoff, Run For Your Life, had a healthy three year run, and I remember it as a good show, but it's not cult. I don't think I've ever seen it in reruns. For some reason the excellent The Defenders series, filmed in New York, and about a father and son lawyer team, had a healthy four year run, seems not to have a cult following. Two more shows like that, and even more popular, the two "young doctor" shows, Dr. Kildare and Ben Casey. Yet Gilligan's Island, The Addams Family and The Munsters are cult classics.
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Post by geode on Mar 27, 2017 3:13:06 GMT
I realized that precious few shows have been discussed on this board so far and started pondering some that could be mentioned. I found this list of 60 shows and it appears that they include shows not so popular in their day that now have a loyal following on DVD, Youtube, Netflix, etc. 60 cult Tv showsMaybe one way to define what makes a TV show a cult classic is to list shows that are not cult classics, especially if they're well known and well remembered but don't seem to have legs. Almost all the spy, secret agent and foreign intrigue type shows from the Sixties, the American ones, even if they were hits, have not survived at the cult level, though some may disagree: The Man From UNCLE, I Spy and Mission: Impossible come to mind. The highly popular secret agent spoof, Get Smart does not IMHO hold up well. They run it on MeTV, so maybe some people still like it. The Fugitive knockoff, Run For Your Life, had a healthy three year run, and I remember it as a good show, but it's not cult. I don't think I've ever seen it in reruns. For some reason the excellent The Defenders series, filmed in New York, and about a father and son lawyer team, had a healthy four year run, seems not to have a cult following. Two more shows like that, and even more popular, the two "young doctor" shows, Dr. Kildare and Ben Casey. Yet Gilligan's Island, The Addams Family and The Munsters are cult classics. Perhaps comedy shows are more likely to turn into cult classics?
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Post by telegonus on Mar 27, 2017 4:05:48 GMT
You have a point there, my friend. Also, comedy, laughing at life, and at a particular time in one's life, and remembering that laughter, is a lot more fun than remembering the pain, the issues one had to ponder, what one had to g through then to get to the now.
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Post by geode on Mar 27, 2017 15:38:26 GMT
You have a point there, my friend. Also, comedy, laughing at life, and at a particular time in one's life, and remembering that laughter, is a lot more fun than remembering the pain, the issues one had to ponder, what one had to g through then to get to the now. To be honest it hurt a bit when I watched the last episode of Run For Your Life when they did not show a cure for Paul Bryan's illness leaving him presumably still running. It was far more satisfying to see Richard Kimble stop running in The Fugitive and it is too bad that they did not follow the lead in that series to solve the problem besetting the lead character.
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Post by koskiewicz on Mar 27, 2017 16:30:32 GMT
In no order:
Max Headroom
Yancy Derringer
Man with a Camera
Dial 999
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Post by geode on Mar 29, 2017 19:32:52 GMT
In no order: Max Headroom Yancy Derringer Man with a Camera Dial 999 In all honesty I have to admit that I only remember the first two on your list, and the second one only vaguely. The last two I had to look up and it appears that very few people remember them. They must have a very, very small cult following. I might term them more "forgotten" than "cult"...
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Post by koskiewicz on Mar 29, 2017 22:19:13 GMT
...that "Man with a Camera" starred Charles Bronson before he became a "star" should speak for itself. "Dial 999" was a Brit show that predated many of the police shows we see on today's TV...
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Post by geode on Mar 30, 2017 2:22:42 GMT
...that "Man with a Camera" starred Charles Bronson before he became a "star" should speak for itself. "Dial 999" was a Brit show that predated many of the police shows we see on today's TV... I don't agree that simply having somebody that would become a star in it makes something a cult show, it would actually have to have a significant and dedicated set of followers. If the number of people rating it at IMDb is any indication, it lacks this as only 129 people have registered a vote and only five left any comments. Dial 999 has only 14 votes and no comments whatsoever. There were quite a few police shows that predated this one, so I doubt that this one really influenced such shows that followed. Even if it did does this make it a cult show?
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Post by koskiewicz on Mar 30, 2017 22:28:29 GMT
...amateur and professional film photographers are definite cult type fans of Man With A Camera with Charles Bronson. Dial 999 is admittedly more obscure...
Another short lived series was Chicago Code...I've looked for this on DVD to no avail...
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Post by mszanadu on Apr 5, 2017 20:20:32 GMT
I realized that precious few shows have been discussed on this board so far and started pondering some that could be mentioned. I found this list of 60 shows and it appears that they include shows not so popular in their day that now have a loyal following on DVD, Youtube, Netflix, etc. 60 cult Tv showsA most interesting list here geode . Thanks so much for sharing this and for your subject post as well . I also came across this list too . The Best Cult TV Shows of All Time It seemed a bit complete but of course this page could be ( but don't know for sure exactly ) all a matter of personal opinion too - IMPO . There is also another page on this that will check to see if there are more of ones I know or own on DVD . It certainly appears to be quite an extensive list - just checked it out . Here also is a page called " Art and Pop Culture " and it's definition of Cult TV Shows . Cult Television Page
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Post by telegonus on Apr 7, 2017 8:50:35 GMT
I have fond memories of Yancy Derringer and Dial 999.
Another obscure and maybe borderline cult show I enjoyed: Captain Gallant Of The Foreign Legion.
Not sure about the cult status of Circus Boy and Tales Of The Texas Rangers. They were favorites of mine and I always wished they'd hung around longer in syndication, or did where I grew up.
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Post by maya55555 on May 19, 2017 3:03:23 GMT
Anyone for "RAWHIDE"?
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Post by telegonus on May 19, 2017 7:43:39 GMT
Rawhide ran for something like seven seasons, was in the top ten or twenty most popular shows for much of its run. I'd say classic. What surprises me about Rawhide is that it's never been that big a deal in reruns despite Clint Eastwood's superstar status. Strange.
Another one like that: M Squad, which starred movie bad guy Lee Marvin, his starring career in feature films a few years down the road, in a popular three season series that never became cult. Unlike Rawhide, which is sort of rambling, borderline epic, M Quad is lean and mean. Still not cult, though.
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