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Post by jriddle73 on Dec 11, 2017 18:12:03 GMT
This season, THE WALKING DEAD has displayed a remarkable propensity for turning what should be exciting, fast-paced, suspenseful scenarios into dreary exercises in tedium and tonight's midseason finale, "How It's Gotta Be," has just become the standout example of this. What could have been a fairly taught hour-long tale is padded out to 90 minutes. The ep is full of slow-motion photography, long, meaningless montages of various characters' faces overlain with somber music, scenes that go on and on. Got to get those extra ads in there, if the show itself has to bust a gut to accomplish it. Last week, Rick and the Garbage People returned to the Saviors' Sanctuary only to discover that the herd of zombies our heroes had previously led there was gone, along with the snipers who were supposed to repel any Savior effort to break free. A surprising cliffhanger on which to end but one tonight's ep does nothing to resolve, though the entire ep was premised on it. The issue is raised repeatedly; the only thing viewers are told is that Eugene came up with something and the herd was led away. As I've previously covered here, the sniper team has been made to appear and disappear at the writers' convenience and this continued tonight. Rick had found one of the snipers dead and being eaten by zombies. At one point, Jerry, who doesn't know this, speculates that the snipers must have taken their vehicles and escaped; Rick says he doesn't think they escaped. Since none of the communities were warned that the Saviors had broken free--even with the known casualty, there were still enough snipers to warn every community--this would seem a reasonable assumption but later in the ep, Morgan, who was part of that sniper team, turns up at the Kingdom unharmed. And without explanation. Tonight's ep begins where last week's ended. Upon discovering the zombies are gone, Rick, ever the idiot, moves in for a closer look on foot across open ground and is, of course, immediately fired upon by Saviors inside. The Garbage People retreat and aren't seen again! They just disappear from the ep. Rick is in a pickle, pinned down and with no hope of escape, but then, out of nowhere, Carol and Jerry suddenly drive up and save him. They'd gone to what was supposed to be a meeting outside the Sanctuary of the leadership of the various communities, Ezekiel having declined to go, but like Daryl and his garbage truck last week, they show up just in the nick of time and are able to magically sense Rick's predicament and affect a rescue. The Saviors are somehow free, they're going to be out looking for revenge and if one concludes this should be a real barn-burner, well, one may have the instincts of a quality dramatist but one hasn't been watching TWD this season... The rest of the article is here: cinemarchaeologist.blogspot.com/2017/12/walking-dead-102.html |
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Dec 11, 2017 19:18:06 GMT
Haha I was in and out of tonight's episode and while I was enjoying Simon's shtick I totally forgot about the fact that Negan wants the 3 leaders captured yet here's Simon just letting her go. I'm critical of the show and I missed that, imagine someone who thinks this show is great, they'd miss all sorts of poor writing/storytelling.
The ludicrous slow-mo closeups are time wasters.
Given how little time has passed this season and the huge variability we've seen of people dying after being bitten, I think Carl makes it to the end of the season at least.
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Post by jriddle73 on Dec 12, 2017 6:37:57 GMT
Haha I was in and out of tonight's episode and while I was enjoying Simon's shtick I totally forgot about the fact that Negan wants the 3 leaders captured yet here's Simon just letting her go. I'm critical of the show and I missed that, imagine someone who thinks this show is great, they'd miss all sorts of poor writing/storytelling. If they think it's great, they're already missing all that stuff, and have been for years. Simon didn't return to Hilltop with Maggie and disarm the community either, so it still has whatever weapons were stashed there. How is it that the Saviors can use magic to know Maggie and the Hilltoppers will be coming up that road--and that's the only way they could have known this--but don't use it to tell him these things? There were at least three of them, and all of them existed solely to pad out the running time. This entire season to date has lasted two days, a night and part of another. At that pace, Coral could very well last right into season 9. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Dec 12, 2017 13:11:21 GMT
I know I am in the minority, but I like Carl. He is a good character. His dynamic with Negan in the comics is very interesting and I was hoping the show would follow that same mold. He better not die.
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Post by Morgana on Dec 12, 2017 18:39:30 GMT
This season, THE WALKING DEAD has displayed a remarkable propensity for turning what should be exciting, fast-paced, suspenseful scenarios into dreary exercises in tedium and tonight's midseason finale, "How It's Gotta Be," has just become the standout example of this. What could have been a fairly taught hour-long tale is padded out to 90 minutes. The ep is full of slow-motion photography, long, meaningless montages of various characters' faces overlain with somber music, scenes that go on and on. Got to get those extra ads in there, if the show itself has to bust a gut to accomplish it. Last week, Rick and the Garbage People returned to the Saviors' Sanctuary only to discover that the herd of zombies our heroes had previously led there was gone, along with the snipers who were supposed to repel any Savior effort to break free. A surprising cliffhanger on which to end but one tonight's ep does nothing to resolve, though the entire ep was premised on it. The issue is raised repeatedly; the only thing viewers are told is that Eugene came up with something and the herd was led away. As I've previously covered here, the sniper team has been made to appear and disappear at the writers' convenience and this continued tonight. Rick had found one of the snipers dead and being eaten by zombies. At one point, Jerry, who doesn't know this, speculates that the snipers must have taken their vehicles and escaped; Rick says he doesn't think they escaped. Since none of the communities were warned that the Saviors had broken free--even with the known casualty, there were still enough snipers to warn every community--this would seem a reasonable assumption but later in the ep, Morgan, who was part of that sniper team, turns up at the Kingdom unharmed. And without explanation. Tonight's ep begins where last week's ended. Upon discovering the zombies are gone, Rick, ever the idiot, moves in for a closer look on foot across open ground and is, of course, immediately fired upon by Saviors inside. The Garbage People retreat and aren't seen again! They just disappear from the ep. Rick is in a pickle, pinned down and with no hope of escape, but then, out of nowhere, Carol and Jerry suddenly drive up and save him. They'd gone to what was supposed to be a meeting outside the Sanctuary of the leadership of the various communities, Ezekiel having declined to go, but like Daryl and his garbage truck last week, they show up just in the nick of time and are able to magically sense Rick's predicament and affect a rescue. The Saviors are somehow free, they're going to be out looking for revenge and if one concludes this should be a real barn-burner, well, one may have the instincts of a quality dramatist but one hasn't been watching TWD this season... The rest of the article is here: cinemarchaeologist.blogspot.com/2017/12/walking-dead-102.htmlAs usual, your commentary on the latest episode is spot on. They should have re-named this season 'The Boring Dead', because that's what it has become. Oh, and the speeches! Let's not forget them! No one can do anything without giving a speech, getting into a car requires a speech, moving from point A to point B requires a speech, you can't kill, or even hurt someone without first giving a speech. At this point in the show, I don't really care who dies; at one time I was a big fan of Darryl's, but now I don't care if he or any of the others, die. Rick, Michonne, Daryl, Carl - all of them. If the writer's somehow get Carl out of dying, I'll be so P.O.'d. |
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Post by geezer on Dec 14, 2017 23:35:08 GMT
I agree...the highlight of the episode was Rick asking Negan, "Don't you ever shut up?".
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Post by yamahatriple on Dec 15, 2017 4:37:44 GMT
I know I am in the minority, but I like Carl. He is a good character. His dynamic with Negan in the comics is very interesting and I was hoping the show would follow that same mold. He better not die. Its confirmed, Carl has been fired. Not lieing to you. He was bitten. Hes pissed irl. Just bought a house thinking he’d have three more years |
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Post by geezer on Dec 16, 2017 15:47:05 GMT
I know I am in the minority, but I like Carl. He is a good character. His dynamic with Negan in the comics is very interesting and I was hoping the show would follow that same mold. He better not die. Its confirmed, Carl has been fired. Not lieing to you. He was bitten. Hes pissed irl. Just bought a house thinking he’d have three more years Do you have a link you can post for this info? I believe they are jerking us around again, just like "Dumpster-gate", and the season 6 cliff hanger. It would seem unlikely they would try that shit again, but this IS TWD after all. |
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Post by geezer on Dec 16, 2017 15:57:43 GMT
I know I am in the minority, but I like Carl. He is a good character. His dynamic with Negan in the comics is very interesting and I was hoping the show would follow that same mold. He better not die. I like Coral, too. We've watched him grow up and I wanted to see him as a bearded "Rick Junior" one day. I am still skeptical that they would stray that far from the comic, it doesn't seem likely. Still....this may be the only way to deal with the age differences between Chandler Riggs and Comic Carl. He is still just a kid in the comics now, right? EDIT: Maybe the "Helicopter People" have an experimental cure that can save him?
Yes, it's dumb, but I can imagine these writers actually doing something like that. Maybe Oceanside has a cure no one knows about? Seafood?...'cause like they live by the ocean??
Maybe walker bites are like jellyfish stings and can be cured by peeing on the wound??
EDIT 2: Now Team Rick, Hilltop, Alexandria, the Kingdom, and Oceanside must pull together for a group pissing on Carl!
Even the Filthy Garbage People return to contribute. Not because they want to help Carl. They just are weird and strange and seem like they would be into something like that! |
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Post by yamahatriple on Dec 17, 2017 0:03:34 GMT
Its confirmed, Carl has been fired. Not lieing to you. He was bitten. Hes pissed irl. Just bought a house thinking he’d have three more years Do you have a link you can post for this info? I believe they are jerking us around again, just like "Dumpster-gate", and the season 6 cliff hanger. It would seem unlikely they would try that shit again, but this IS TWD after all. It’s somewhere. You can find it. It’s true, not another Glenn dumpster trick, which btw I was on to that one. I slow mo’d the dvr where Glenn went down and I saw how they showed him slide under the dumpster. The carl storyline is true. Carl’s real father went on record calling out Scott gimple saying he’s a liar and that he never trusted him since the beginning of the series and that chandler did trust him the whole time when he told him he would be on the show till the end. There’s no way chandlers father would call out the writers like that if it were not true. He pretty much called gimple a piece of Shit for allowing chandler to buy a house and then fire his son. |
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Post by geezer on Dec 17, 2017 22:00:49 GMT
Do you have a link you can post for this info? I believe they are jerking us around again, just like "Dumpster-gate", and the season 6 cliff hanger. It would seem unlikely they would try that shit again, but this IS TWD after all. It’s somewhere. You can find it. It’s true, not another Glenn dumpster trick, which btw I was on to that one. I slow mo’d the dvr where Glenn went down and I saw how they showed him slide under the dumpster. The carl storyline is true. Carl’s real father went on record calling out Scott gimple saying he’s a liar and that he never trusted him since the beginning of the series and that chandler did trust him the whole time when he told him he would be on the show till the end. There’s no way chandlers father would call out the writers like that if it were not true. He pretty much called gimple a piece of Shit for allowing chandler to buy a house and then fire his son. Well, regardless, Chandler should still be making enough money to pay for a house. He should have been able to buy it out-right with cash. This just doesn't seem right, UNLESS they are planning to end the series soon. Carl was Rick's "anchor", and I just don't see him going on without Carl. If all this IS true, it's just further proof that Gimple is destroying the show. |
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Post by yamahatriple on Dec 18, 2017 1:25:28 GMT
It’s somewhere. You can find it. It’s true, not another Glenn dumpster trick, which btw I was on to that one. I slow mo’d the dvr where Glenn went down and I saw how they showed him slide under the dumpster. The carl storyline is true. Carl’s real father went on record calling out Scott gimple saying he’s a liar and that he never trusted him since the beginning of the series and that chandler did trust him the whole time when he told him he would be on the show till the end. There’s no way chandlers father would call out the writers like that if it were not true. He pretty much called gimple a piece of Shit for allowing chandler to buy a house and then fire his son. Well, regardless, Chandler should still be making enough money to pay for a house. He should have been able to buy it out-right with cash. This just doesn't seem right, UNLESS they are planning to end the series soon. Carl was Rick's "anchor", and I just don't see him going on without Carl. If all this IS true, it's just further proof that Gimple is destroying the show. That is def true. Gimple is a pimple of the future of TWD |
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