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Post by FilmFlaneur on Dec 13, 2017 10:56:34 GMT
One can guess why - the storm about alleged sexual abuse. But there's more: here's a round-up of some of his more extreme beliefs.
1. Homosexuality should be illegal
On election day, Moore's spokesman Ted Crockett was asked whether the candidate still thought homosexuality should be outlawed. "Probably," was his answer. Previously, Mr Moore has likened it to bestiality, and called it "abhorrent, immoral, detestable, a crime against nature, and a violation of the laws of nature and of nature's God upon which this nation and our laws are predicated". His refusal to issue marriage certificates to gay couples cost him his place on the bench for a second time.
2. God's wrath is felt on Earth
Moore has suggested that the 11 September 2001 attacks against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were a sign of God's divine anger. "Sounds a little bit like the Pentagon" he remarked after reading a Bible passage about "the great slaughter when the towers will fall". He has also said that violent crimes in the US such as murder and rape are "happening because we have forgotten God".
3. 'Red and yellows' don't get along
He appeared to use pejorative racial terms for Asians and Native Americans at a rally this month."We have blacks and whites fighting, reds and yellows fighting, Democrats and Republicans fighting, men and women fighting. What's going to unite us? What's going to bring us back together? A president? A Congress? No. It's going to be God."
4. Darwin was wrong
"There's no such thing as evolution," he told the Washington Post less than a week before the election. "That we came from a snake? No I don't believe that."
5. Islam is a 'false religion'
It is also a threat to US laws, Moore claims. Over the summer he falsely alleged that Sharia law was already being enforced in parts of the states of Illinois and Indiana, offering no evidence.
6. The law comes from God
"God is the only source of our law, liberty and government," he said from the debate stage last week.
7. He thinks he's like Putin
In August he directly praised the Russian president Vladimir Putin for his gay rights stance, saying "maybe he's more akin to me than I know". The comment came after he described the US as "the focus of evil in the world" because "we promote a lot of bad things".
8. Obama might not be US-born
Trump's predecessor was disqualified to be president, Moore claimed as far back as 2008. The so-called "birther" theory, alleging that Obama was born in Kenya, was heavily promoted by Donald Trump until very late in his campaign.
9. He writes poetry
And he has occasionally been known to give live renditions. One said: "Babies piled in dumpsters, Abortion on demand/ Oh Sweet land of liberty; your house is on the sand."
10. A Ten Commandments sculpture is worth fighting for
He was dismissed from the Alabama Supreme Court after he refused a federal order to remove a massive stone statue of the Ten Commandments from inside his courthouse.
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Post by scienceisgod on Dec 13, 2017 11:52:24 GMT
You’re trying to pretend that Roy Moore lost because people didn’t like his politics?
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Dec 13, 2017 12:04:01 GMT
You’re trying to pretend that Roy Moore lost because people didn’t like his politics? I'm pretending nothing, just noting his views, that he lost - and now (after the governor races in Virginia and New Jersey in November) that some have seen this as another sign that the Trump electoral tide has turned. |
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Post by scienceisgod on Dec 13, 2017 12:22:10 GMT
You’re trying to pretend that Roy Moore lost because people didn’t like his politics? I'm pretending nothing, just noting his views, that he lost - and now (after the governor races in Virginia and New Jersey in November) that some have seen this as another sign that the Trump electoral tide has turned. ... You noted his “extreme views” as examples of why he lost. Now you’re saying it was backlash against Trump too. Roy Moore was up double digits before the pedophile thing. Virginia and New Jersey went against Trump in the election. It’s a silly narrative and it’s being pushed hard in the media for some reason. |
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Dec 13, 2017 12:29:23 GMT
I'm pretending nothing, just noting his views, that he lost - and now (after the governor races in Virginia and New Jersey in November) that some have seen this as another sign that the Trump electoral tide has turned. ... You noted his “extreme views” as examples of why he lost. Now you’re saying it was backlash against Trump too. Roy Moore was up double digits before the pedophile thing. Virginia and New Jersey went against Trump in the election. It’s a silly narrative and it’s being pushed hard in the media for some reason. There's no reason to think these didn't have an impact. (or his wife's equivalent of 'some of our best friends are Jews') But perhaps you have your own alternate reasons why he lost which you can share? Was it liberal media misrepresentation? Fake news? Moores's personality being just too cuddly?
And I know that Virginia and NJ went against Trump. That would be, er, why I mentioned them...
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Post by rizdek on Dec 13, 2017 12:48:02 GMT
One can guess why - the storm about alleged sexual abuse. But there's more: here's a round-up of some of his more extreme beliefs.
1. Homosexuality should be illegal
On election day, Moore's spokesman Ted Crockett was asked whether the candidate still thought homosexuality should be outlawed. "Probably," was his answer. Previously, Mr Moore has likened it to bestiality, and called it "abhorrent, immoral, detestable, a crime against nature, and a violation of the laws of nature and of nature's God upon which this nation and our laws are predicated". His refusal to issue marriage certificates to gay couples cost him his place on the bench for a second time.
2. God's wrath is felt on Earth
Moore has suggested that the 11 September 2001 attacks against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were a sign of God's divine anger. "Sounds a little bit like the Pentagon" he remarked after reading a Bible passage about "the great slaughter when the towers will fall". He has also said that violent crimes in the US such as murder and rape are "happening because we have forgotten God".
3. 'Red and yellows' don't get along
He appeared to use pejorative racial terms for Asians and Native Americans at a rally this month."We have blacks and whites fighting, reds and yellows fighting, Democrats and Republicans fighting, men and women fighting. What's going to unite us? What's going to bring us back together? A president? A Congress? No. It's going to be God."
4. Darwin was wrong
"There's no such thing as evolution," he told the Washington Post less than a week before the election. "That we came from a snake? No I don't believe that."
5. Islam is a 'false religion'
It is also a threat to US laws, Moore claims. Over the summer he falsely alleged that Sharia law was already being enforced in parts of the states of Illinois and Indiana, offering no evidence.
6. The law comes from God
"God is the only source of our law, liberty and government," he said from the debate stage last week.
7. He thinks he's like Putin
In August he directly praised the Russian president Vladimir Putin for his gay rights stance, saying "maybe he's more akin to me than I know". The comment came after he described the US as "the focus of evil in the world" because "we promote a lot of bad things".
8. Obama might not be US-born
Trump's predecessor was disqualified to be president, Moore claimed as far back as 2008. The so-called "birther" theory, alleging that Obama was born in Kenya, was heavily promoted by Donald Trump until very late in his campaign.
9. He writes poetry
And he has occasionally been known to give live renditions. One said: "Babies piled in dumpsters, Abortion on demand/ Oh Sweet land of liberty; your house is on the sand."
10. A Ten Commandments sculpture is worth fighting for
He was dismissed from the Alabama Supreme Court after he refused a federal order to remove a massive stone statue of the Ten Commandments from inside his courthouse.
Whatever the reason(s), it made my day. NOT so much that a Republican candidate lost, but that he was Bannon's pick. I hope this is a loud signal to other states where Bannon is trying to sway their elections. The state needs to retain control of who they run for Senate, not some outsider who may or may not have that state's best interest at heart. |
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Post by THawk on Dec 13, 2017 13:52:45 GMT
Fantastic news and thank God for black people who voted against the brainwashed swamp dwellers...
but not everything you listed here is 100% wrong. If you're trying to present this as some kind of "atheist" victory, you are aware that Jones is a committed Christian as well, right?
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Post by faustus5 on Dec 13, 2017 13:56:35 GMT
but not everything you listed here is 100% wrong. Correct. He does write poetry. |
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Post by mikef6 on Dec 13, 2017 15:01:03 GMT
In a way, I agree with the ones who protest that Roy Whore did not lose because of his extremist positions. All of those extreme political views have now become mainstream Republican. If you vote conservative, this is what you get - laws that control women's sex lives and family planning, population control based on fundamentalist Christianity, denial of science and education also based on fundamentalist Christianity, religion based laws controlling who people can fall in love with and marry. Some very striking ironies here: a) the Small Government Party promoting federal laws and rules that regulate all sorts of aspects of other people's lives and b) the lying fear mongering about Sharia Law while promoting a Christian Sharia themselves. If you vote Republican at any level of government, this is the sort of thing you buy into.
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Post by mikef6 on Dec 13, 2017 15:02:27 GMT
One message to everyone who still supports Roy Whore and will not concede to Jones' victory:
You lost - get over it!
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Post by politicidal on Dec 13, 2017 16:38:16 GMT
In Moore's defense, this is the first time that racial tensions between the reds and yellows has been brought to my attention.  |
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Dec 13, 2017 17:43:18 GMT
Good.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Dec 13, 2017 17:47:45 GMT
I actually saw a flood of this on social media from Alabama voters. Even some of the more hard core Trumpers didn't like that.  I missed that entirely. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 17:57:09 GMT
The country is just a little bit saner today.
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Post by thefleetsin on Dec 13, 2017 21:13:57 GMT
trump got his ass back-handed to him again. this time when a notoriously red state threw him back a fellow pussy grabber in a glorious display of: 'bend over you are now our biatches'.
roy moore was last seen being ridden out of the state by his horse sassy.
LOLOL
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Post by shadrack on Dec 13, 2017 23:30:22 GMT
The country is just a little bit saner today. Not by much. Moore only lost by 1.5% (~ 20K votes). I suspect he would have won by a comfortable margin had there not been allegations of sexual misconduct. IMO, the problem isn't people like Moore and Trump -- the problem is the people who who vote for them. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Dec 14, 2017 1:24:08 GMT
In a way, I agree with the ones who protest that Roy Whore did not lose because of his extremist positions. All of those extreme political views have now become mainstream Republican. If you vote conservative, this is what you get - laws that control women's sex lives and family planning, population control based on fundamentalist Christianity, denial of science and education also based on fundamentalist Christianity, religion based laws controlling who people can fall in love with and marry. Some very striking ironies here: a) the Small Government Party promoting federal laws and rules that regulate all sorts of aspects of other people's lives and b) the lying fear mongering about Sharia Law while promoting a Christian Sharia themselves. If you vote Republican at any level of government, this is the sort of thing you buy into.Barring some libertarians. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 3:41:41 GMT
On the one hand, Alabama proved that where republicans are concerned, there actually is a bottom of the barrel below which some of them will not go. Not all, not even most - but some.
On the other hand, they also demonstrated that the bottom of their barrel is a hell of a long way down. Seriously? 51 - 49? For a child molester?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 14:48:03 GMT
On the one hand, Alabama proved that where republicans are concerned, there actually is a bottom of the barrel below which some of them will not go. Not all, not even most - but some. On the other hand, they also demonstrated that the bottom of their barrel is a hell of a long way down. Seriously? 51 - 49? For a child molester? One lady in Gadsden being interviewed screamed into the camera that she was "VOTING ROY MOORE!!!" then went on about Christian values. Subsequently she was asked about the validity of Moore's accusers she exclaimed she didn't believe any of them, ending with "There's no evidence, I only believe what I can see!"  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 14:53:28 GMT
On the one hand, Alabama proved that where republicans are concerned, there actually is a bottom of the barrel below which some of them will not go. Not all, not even most - but some. On the other hand, they also demonstrated that the bottom of their barrel is a hell of a long way down. Seriously? 51 - 49? For a child molester? One lady in Gadsden being interviewed screamed into the camera that she was "VOTING ROY MOORE!!!" then went on about Christian values. Subsequently she was asked about the validity of Moore's accusers she exclaimed she didn't believe any of them, ending with "There's no evidence, I only believe what I can see!" But I bet she was completely convinced that Obama was born in Kenya. |
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