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Post by johnspartan on Dec 31, 2017 21:51:12 GMT
Every Star Wars ad now features girls and women more prominently than boys. Most girls will abandon Star Wars by age 12 or before. Boys are life long fans. This will not change despite the marketing blitz.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 22:15:52 GMT
Agree. I wasn't on the anti-feminist bandwagon after TFA, but I am now. I was all for a little girl power injection into the saga, but not at the expense of the saga itself. Cramming this facet into the plot is what led to the maze that RJ couldn't write himself out of. He killed Snoke unceremoniously because he thought it was the only way to get the audience to believe Kylo was a real badass. Well, the audience believed that from moment one of his appearance in TFA when he stopped the blaster bolt. Then they lost that belief when he got his ass whupped by a novice nobody. What a tangled web was weaved in order to prove a girl can do a man's job (except better).
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Post by johnspartan on Dec 31, 2017 22:48:29 GMT
Agree. I wasn't on the anti-feminist bandwagon after TFA, but I am now. I was all for a little girl power injection into the saga, but not at the expense of the saga itself. Cramming this facet into the plot is what led to the maze that RJ couldn't write himself out of. He killed Snoke unceremoniously because he thought it was the only way to get the audience to believe Kylo was a real badass. Well, the audience believed that from moment one of his appearance in TFA when he stopped the blaster bolt. Then they lost that belief when he got his ass whupped by a novice nobody. What a tangled web was weaved in order to prove a girl can do a man's job (except better). I initially didn't mind as much, but I knew it would likely take obnoxious turns for the worst, eventually. That's what SJWs always do.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Dec 31, 2017 23:42:28 GMT
Every Star Wars ad now features girls and women more prominently than boys. Most girls will abandon Star Wars by age 12 or before. Boys are life long fans. This will not change despite the marketing blitz.Β While I do think they'll get some lifelong girl SW fans, it won't be nearly as much as the market potential for boys. Besides, to girls Rey is just another Disney warrior princess. And they're used to getting a new one of those every other year anyway. The Disney sheep may wind up hijacking the SW saga to the tune of making these movies a billion dollars a pop. But I can't imagine that the toy sales are good. And it's clear that they're transitioning SW to a thematically female empowerment saga. By the end of TLJ 75% to 80% of the Resistance was female. Somehow that inexplicably happened even though at the end of TFA it looked like they were 60% male. And all of the people in authoritive, decision-making positions (on good guy Resistance side) were females. And what are boys getting? Finn, who we're not sure what he is: is a he a bumbling clown, a selfish coward, a Rey worshipping sycophant, a defacto hero? Poe: a cliche, hot shot pilot. The best thing about this male character might be his confidence, but beyond that, what? And Kylo: the male Force user. A conflicted character whose clout and credibility you're just not sure about. He also looks like he could be shaping up to play Ken doll to Rey's magical warrior Barbie. So yeah, I essentially agree with you. This is all going to catch up to them eventually. They're retarding the male market for SW.
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Post by simplemoviecommenter on Jan 1, 2018 0:10:11 GMT
Disney seems to suck at marketing this to girls. And at creating decent female characters for it. At least, compared to pre-Disney Canon for Star Wars. I think we had Mara Jade, Bastila Shan, hell, even Ahsoka Tano.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jan 1, 2018 2:44:29 GMT
All I know is that the whole "hot woman that weighs about 120 pounds beating a well-trained man that's twice her size while she also verbally shames everyone in her path because they are not worthy of her inherent feminine superiority" schtick is getting very old.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jan 1, 2018 10:53:06 GMT
Females are becoming more fanatical about sci-fi and comic books but still not as often as males. I donβt mind them being targeted in advertising. Itβs better than the old days when the only chicks you could find at comic cons were fat goths lol.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 1, 2018 12:26:14 GMT
I really wish Rey was written and acted better.
Star Wars has had great female characters in it's books, comic books and even video games and with Rey it feels like Disney just didn't care about making a interesting female protagonist.
I really wanted to like Rey in episode 8, but I feel like they dropped the ball by introducing more characters like Rose that took up any good chance of character development for Rey.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Jan 1, 2018 14:47:26 GMT
I really wish Rey was written and acted better. Star Wars has had great female characters in it's books, comic books and even video games and with Rey it feels like Disney just didn't care about making a interesting female protagonist. I really wanted to like Rey in episode 8, but I feel like they dropped the ball by introducing more characters like Rose that took up any good chance of character development for Rey. If Rey had been modeled closer to, say... Ahsoka from the CW animated series she would've felt more authentic for SW. But Kathleen Kennedy and Abrams chose to model Rey after the typical Disney warrior princess template. And it's just one of the messy storytelling elements created in the last 2 episodic movies.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jan 1, 2018 17:55:53 GMT
Leia remains the saga's strongest female & she was written before all this Kathleen Kennedy my way or the highway.
Rogue One is awesome though, Daisy is excellent.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jan 1, 2018 20:20:01 GMT
I hope most of the people in this thread don't have daughters.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Jan 1, 2018 20:41:15 GMT
I hope most of the people in this thread don't have daughters. More specifically what do you mean?
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Post by simplemoviecommenter on Jan 1, 2018 21:23:50 GMT
I hope most of the people in this thread don't have daughters. You overestimate the misogyny of the people in this thread (except for John_Spartan and Power_Ranger, you're probably dead-on) and you overestimate the quality of female characters like Rey.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 2, 2018 0:15:53 GMT
I hope most of the people in this thread don't have daughters. You overestimate the misogyny of the people in this thread (except for John_Spartan and Power_Ranger, you're probably dead-on) and you overestimate the quality of female characters like Rey. Yeah I'm not sure what he's going for. Outside of the two you mentioned it's a pretty tame thread with some valid criticism and concerns about how Disney is writing it's female characters.
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Post by audiosane on Jan 2, 2018 1:16:24 GMT
Agree. I wasn't on the anti-feminist bandwagon after TFA, but I am now. I was all for a little girl power injection into the saga, but not at the expense of the saga itself. Cramming this facet into the plot is what led to the maze that RJ couldn't write himself out of. He killed Snoke unceremoniously because he thought it was the only way to get the audience to believe Kylo was a real badass. Well, the audience believed that from moment one of his appearance in TFA when he stopped the blaster bolt. Then they lost that belief when he got his ass whupped by a novice nobody. What a tangled web was weaved in order to prove a girl can do a man's job (except better). YODA: Control, control. You must learn control! KENNEDY: MaRey Sue will become more powerful than either of us. THE FORCE: Kathleen, you're breaking my heart! You're going down a path I cannot follow! KENNEDY: Quiet, girl! YODA: *sighs*
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Post by darkpast on Jan 2, 2018 1:36:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 4:29:18 GMT
I hope most of the people in this thread don't have daughters. There's a difference between anti-feminism and anti-female, bub. I for one fucking looooove females.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Jan 2, 2018 11:16:36 GMT
They will not care much.
Their target demographic focus are age groups 6-12 - boys and girls. Simply because these demographics are the easiest and profitable commercial customers. They are more accepting/gullible/easily amused and will not complain as much as grown ups do. And they will buy more toys, merchandize and other content. That is where the big profits are. Also, this way you can reboot the same story over and over again ad (nobody's) nauseam.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 2, 2018 12:04:33 GMT
The force doesn't have a gender. Such a dumb shirt!
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Post by johnspartan on Jan 2, 2018 18:20:56 GMT
The force doesn't have a gender. Such a dumb shirt! True, and it's evidence that Kathleen doesn't know anything about Star Wars or the Force.
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