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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 1:09:52 GMT
It's not a favourite, as it's quite possibly the worst movie ending I've ever seen. Drag Me to Hell It's hard to believe the same director who made such a hateful and evil ending could also make something with so much heart as the Spider-Man trilogy. Uh huh. And don't forget the Evil Dead trilogy. That's a mixture of dark and evil and lighthearted fun. The monsters in the movies are evil, but how how does that make the movies evil? The evil things are being killed. They are goofy violent fun, especially 2 and 3. The first one being the only actual horror movie of the three.
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Post by cryptoflovecraft on Jan 17, 2018 1:16:17 GMT
Eden Lake
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Post by James on Jan 17, 2018 1:30:22 GMT
Uh huh. And don't forget the Evil Dead trilogy. That's a mixture of dark and evil and lighthearted fun. The monsters in the movies are evil, but how how does that make the movies evil? The evil things are being killed. They are goofy violent fun, especially 2 and 3. The first one being the only actual horror movie of the three. True. I was just saying as another example of what Sam Raimi has made that would be considered happy-like. You seem quite harsh on DMTH. Do you think it sucks because the ending ruined it for you?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 1:38:31 GMT
The monsters in the movies are evil, but how how does that make the movies evil? The evil things are being killed. They are goofy violent fun, especially 2 and 3. The first one being the only actual horror movie of the three. True. I was just saying as another example of what Sam Raimi has made that would be considered happy-like. You seem quite harsh on DMTH. Do you think it sucks because the ending ruined it for you? Oh my bad. I misread your post. Yeah it sucks because of the ending. I saw it years ago though, but if I remember correctly, the rest of the movie was quite good/scary. Don't remember anything funny about it whatsoever though. Maybe that crazy grandma had some funny moments? Although that was probably more creepy than funny.
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Post by James on Jan 17, 2018 1:53:26 GMT
True. I was just saying as another example of what Sam Raimi has made that would be considered happy-like. You seem quite harsh on DMTH. Do you think it sucks because the ending ruined it for you? Oh my bad. I misread your post. Yeah it sucks because of the ending. I saw it years ago though, but if I remember correctly, the rest of the movie was quite good/scary. Don't remember anything funny about it whatsoever though. Maybe that crazy grandma had some funny moments? Although that was probably more creepy than funny. It was crazy as hell (no pun intended) but in a fun kind of way. It was more reminiscent to the first Evil Dead film because of its tone, where it isn't a comedy, but there are slight touches that can be seen as intentional dark humour.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jan 17, 2018 3:14:35 GMT
Martyrs (2008). Again. Prepare yourself. Seriously. Indeed. Inside (2007) also had a really dark ending.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jan 17, 2018 3:16:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 3:17:01 GMT
Martyrs (2008). Again. Prepare yourself. Seriously. Indeed. Inside (2007) also had a really dark ending. Inside was mental.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 17, 2018 3:42:14 GMT
Salo or the 120 Days of Sodom (1975). Prepare yourself. I am preparing myself by NOT watching it. I like chocolate too much.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 17, 2018 3:45:13 GMT
The Mist was classic Hollywood white man failure.
It HAD to end with failure.
The traditional horror story might have a comeuppance ending if a character is wicked but that ending was just life is unfair, fuck you.
And some things were ridiculous like the black lawyer refusing to look in other other room when three people asked him to, or the two young people gushing like they were in high school after they saw a guy torn in half. And why did that army recruit look like he was wearing lipstick?
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Post by Lynx on Jan 17, 2018 3:51:33 GMT
Not a "Horror".....but : "A.I" to me was a very dark ending.
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Post by theshape25 on Jan 17, 2018 8:51:10 GMT
That was the first movie to enter my mind when reading the title of this thread. Great minds I guess shape25! To be honest, HENRY:PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER is dark from start to finish. It is a deeply troubling and unsettling film that hits all too close to home, even 30 years on since it was made. I have to say that I found Otis even more disturbing than Henry. I thought NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN was terrific and played along a lot like a Western in many ways. Chigurh is a character not easily forgotten! The first time I saw HENRY:PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER I didn't make it through the film. It was too much for me to digest. I was in my early teens and my experience in horror films didn't extend much past Halloween and Friday the 13th movies. HENRY was on a whole different level. It was like watching a snuff film at times. I've always said that if Michael Myers spoke and didn't wear a mask he would be Chigurh. Woody Harrelson's character summed it up quite well when he warned Josh Brolin's character that "he wasn't going to be able to reason with him." Also Chigurh's escape scene at the beginning when the camera is focused on the police officer and you see Chigurh slowly rise in the background reminds me of the scene in Halloween when Laurie is walking from the doorway and we see The Shape slowly rise from the floor.
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Post by simest on Jan 17, 2018 9:42:46 GMT
Great minds I guess shape25! To be honest, HENRY:PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER is dark from start to finish. It is a deeply troubling and unsettling film that hits all too close to home, even 30 years on since it was made. I have to say that I found Otis even more disturbing than Henry. I thought NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN was terrific and played along a lot like a Western in many ways. Chigurh is a character not easily forgotten! The first time I saw HENRY:PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER I didn't make it through the film. It was too much for me to digest. I was in my early teens and my experience in horror films didn't extend much past Halloween and Friday the 13th movies. HENRY was on a whole different level. It was like watching a snuff film at times. I've always said that if Michael Myers spoke and didn't wear a mask he would be Chigurh. Woody Harrelson's character summed it up quite well when he warned Josh Brolin's character that "he wasn't going to be able to reason with him." Also Chigurh's escape scene at the beginning when the camera is focused on the police officer and you see Chigurh slowly rise in the background reminds me of the scene in Halloween when Laurie is walking from the doorway and we see The Shape slowly rise from the floor. I'm so glad I was around 20 by the time the film was released. With the barely watchable family attack and Otis' incestuous designs (and eventual rape) on Becky, I would never, ever have wanted to see it sooner. Very much like a snuff movie as you say and fiercely audience-confrontational. Like yourself, the comparatively harmless slashers and supernatural horrors, typical of the genre were no preparation for HENRY. In fact, I'd say only LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT came anywhere near to the sort of grim humanity HENRY would later showcase - albeit far more crudely shot and produced in the early Craven effort. That foreground-background shot from NO COUNTRY is indeed very reminiscent of Myers revival in HALLOWEEN - not just in the angles and staging but the unhurried manner in which Chergurh very calmly and soundlessly approaches and looms closer to his prey. Very good spot.
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Post by theshape25 on Jan 17, 2018 19:07:28 GMT
The first time I saw HENRY:PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER I didn't make it through the film. It was too much for me to digest. I was in my early teens and my experience in horror films didn't extend much past Halloween and Friday the 13th movies. HENRY was on a whole different level. It was like watching a snuff film at times. I've always said that if Michael Myers spoke and didn't wear a mask he would be Chigurh. Woody Harrelson's character summed it up quite well when he warned Josh Brolin's character that "he wasn't going to be able to reason with him." Also Chigurh's escape scene at the beginning when the camera is focused on the police officer and you see Chigurh slowly rise in the background reminds me of the scene in Halloween when Laurie is walking from the doorway and we see The Shape slowly rise from the floor. I'm so glad I was around 20 by the time the film was released. With the barely watchable family attack and Otis' incestuous designs (and eventual rape) on Becky, I would never, ever have wanted to see it sooner. Very much like a snuff movie as you say and fiercely audience-confrontational. Like yourself, the comparatively harmless slashers and supernatural horrors, typical of the genre were no preparation for HENRY. In fact, I'd say only LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT came anywhere near to the sort of grim humanity HENRY would later showcase - albeit far more crudely shot and produced in the early Craven effort. That foreground-background shot from NO COUNTRY is indeed very reminiscent of Myers revival in HALLOWEEN - not just in the angles and staging but the unhurried manner in which Chergurh very calmly and soundlessly approaches and looms closer to his prey. Very good spot. Audience confrontational. I like that description, because I don't want to come across like I'm saying that Halloween is a fluff piece. The evil that is Michael Myers and the acts that he carried out are truly disturbing, but Carpenter and the subtle style that he employs is less abrasive on the viewer. John McNaughton doesn't let us off the hook the way Carpenter does. HENRY is much more in your face. I wish I knew what I was about to watch. I probably would have held off. I did revist the film in my 20's and watched the entire thing. It was just as shocking as I remembered, but I was more prepared mentally for it. Yes, the home invasion scene was tough to watch and Otis' attack on his sister is disgusting. When Henry defends her you almost root for him. Then we are quickly reminded how demented he is when he ultimately kills her.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 23:35:17 GMT
Terrific. One of my favorite movies - and one of the few films that I can watch over and over. Great musical score too. Makes you feel like you got punched in the gut in the end. That movie had one of the stupidest endings ever. It made no sense. The situation was not dire enough for them all to unanimously decide for the guy to do what he did. And all without using any words? You're telling me there wouldn't be any discussion or at least one person not wanting that? It was so unrealistic and forced and purely made for shock value. I still loved it though. It was a good old kick in the nuts ending.
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Post by gbone on Jan 18, 2018 0:45:05 GMT
This one disturbed me for awhile.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 19, 2018 3:48:35 GMT
No mention yet of Night of the Living Dead? The ultimate dark ending.
Agree with The Mist and Invasion of the Body Snatchers 78. The whole Final Destination series also has dark endings, but the fifth one's was especially vicious. The original Black Christmas's was creepy, too.
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Post by geralmar on Jan 20, 2018 6:55:23 GMT
The Witchmaker (1969) The Brotherhood of Satan (1971) Messiah of Evil (1973) The House of Seven Corpses (1974) The Dark (2005) Dark Water (Japanese, 2002)
Just about every zombie movie.
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Post by Vegas on Jan 20, 2018 15:44:44 GMT
Do you consider "Home Invasion" movies as horror?
Kidnapped is one of the most dark endings a movie has ever had.
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Post by James on Jan 20, 2018 23:28:10 GMT
I should also bring up Requiem for a Dream's ending, as even though it isn't a horror film, that ending is just so tragic and the one where the characters lose heavily.
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