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Post by Catman on Jan 19, 2018 2:41:10 GMT
Who says "look" like "Luke"? And who would say "book" like "Luke"? Are we talking about people from Eastern European countries trying to speak English or something? Maybe Beru Whitesun Lars (more commonly known as Aunt Beru)?
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jan 19, 2018 3:03:32 GMT
Take a luke at this buke. I leave it in my breakfast nuke, so I can luke at it while I kook.
Hang my coat on that huke, would you? Oh, but remove the ruke from the pocket first. I tuke it from Joe when I was playing chess with him.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 19, 2018 3:31:50 GMT
Those phonetics are all American pronounciations, though. For example, Paw-stuh, to me, sounds like "POR-stuh", and Ger-awj sounds like "GuhRORJ". "Paw-stuh" would be like some caricature of a New York accent from a Scorsese movie or something. Where are you from? Because the other guy is correct that "paw-stuh" is the standard American pronounciation, not that I don't appreciate the way I talk being made fun of. dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/pasta
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Post by deembastille on Jan 19, 2018 11:32:09 GMT
It depends on what I am doing. My favorite child book series and characters are Charlie and Lola. They are from England and I can not NOT read the short books without a British accent. It just can't *not* happen.
Same thing with st Patrick's day. I *must* spend the day speaking in a brogue. Again, it just can't *not* happen.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Jan 19, 2018 12:53:46 GMT
"Paw-stuh" would be like some caricature of a New York accent from a Scorsese movie or something. Where are you from? Because the other guy is correct that "paw-stuh" is the standard American pronounciation, not that I don't appreciate the way I talk being made fun of. dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/pasta No one says PAW stuh. And the Cambridge dictionary says nothing like PAW either. The standard pronunciation is this: It's an "ah" sound for the first "a," not an "aw" sound.
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Post by koskiewicz on Jan 19, 2018 23:04:44 GMT
"...hark, hark, I hear a fart in the dark..."
"...Molly found a seat on the trolley, by golly..."
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 19, 2018 23:11:31 GMT
No one says PAW stuh. And the Cambridge dictionary says nothing like PAW either. The standard pronunciation is this: It's an "ah" sound for the first "a," not an "aw" sound. The Cambridge link had an audio sample, not that it matters because it's roughly the same as your YouTube link. Seems this is all a misunderstanding over your ignorance of what "aw" sounds like.
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Post by deembastille on Jan 20, 2018 14:16:45 GMT
this 'pasta' argument reminds me of that scene in the movie Sybil [the one with sally field] and the guy from across the way had said how he could tell where you came from within the united states by how you pronounced w*a*t*e*r. she said waahter and he said she grew up in the mid west.
i have heard people say war-ter.
people from Rhode island say war-sh. for wash.
OREange instead of areange.
these things are regional sayings and what you are surrounded with. My parents grew up in Brooklyn but they have never ever spoken like Joe Pesci in My Cousin Vinny. I lived for the first nine years of my life on Long Island. we never adopted the lungislund way if speaking and i am glad we didn't. it hurts my ears when i hear people who have had good educations and are lawyers and doctors say i know-uh!, aw my gawd-uh!
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Post by sugarbiscuits on Jan 20, 2018 15:14:54 GMT
sugarbiscuits If you don't mind saying .. what part of the world / country are you from ? Professor Henry Higgins might have some difficulty figuring your locale out from merely reading how you say you say certain words. based on parsley = passley Boston or vicinity ?
I was born and live in the UK.
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Post by sugarbiscuits on Jan 20, 2018 15:16:26 GMT
@ Terrapin Station Do you say look and luke to rhyme? Some do, some don't. If you say the two o's in look then it does rhyme with luke. Good food and hood should rhyme but I think for most they don't. I do say root boot loot and soot to rhyme but for me foot doesn't. I think some Scottish say foot to rhyme with loot root boot. Some people change the letter r to the letter h. I do that with some words. Who says "look" like "Luke"? And who would say "book" like "Luke"? Are we talking about people from Eastern European countries trying to speak English or something? I think some from North West England say look and Luke to rhyme.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jan 20, 2018 15:20:06 GMT
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Post by sugarbiscuits on Jan 20, 2018 15:22:18 GMT
this 'pasta' argument reminds me of that scene in the movie Sybil [the one with sally field] and the guy from across the way had said how he could tell where you came from within the united states by how you pronounced w*a*t*e*r. she said waahter and he said she grew up in the mid west. i have heard people say war-ter. people from Rhode island say war-sh. for wash. OREange instead of areange. these things are regional sayings and what you are surrounded with. My parents grew up in Brooklyn but they have never ever spoken like Joe Pesci in My Cousin Vinny. I lived for the first nine years of my life on Long Island. we never adopted the lungislund way if speaking and i am glad we didn't. it hurts my ears when i hear people who have had good educations and are lawyers and doctors say i know-uh!, aw my gawd-uh! I say wash as wosh to rhyme with tosh. I say water as wore tuh. I have heard some say water to rhyme with latter. Also heard some water to rhyme with Walter. I say orange as or-ringe.
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Post by sugarbiscuits on Jan 20, 2018 15:22:55 GMT
I read there are more accents per square mile in England than in any other nation.
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Post by deembastille on Jan 20, 2018 15:36:53 GMT
why can't the English teach their children how to speak?
i would really LOVE to teach this in US schools. This actually isn't within the curriculum.
not for nothing but what is it with some black people being unable to say the YOU sound with the U letter. ambYOUlance, ridicYOUlous. not being racist at all but i have yet to come across anyone else who can't say YOU when a word with the letter U is within the word. this is one thing and i don't mind it with lay people but i have a hard time when some educators apparently can't speak appropriately.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 15:41:43 GMT
this 'pasta' argument reminds me of that scene in the movie Sybil [the one with sally field] and the guy from across the way had said how he could tell where you came from within the united states by how you pronounced w*a*t*e*r. she said waahter and he said she grew up in the mid west. i have heard people say war-ter. people from Rhode island say war-sh. for wash. OREange instead of areange. these things are regional sayings and what you are surrounded with. My parents grew up in Brooklyn but they have never ever spoken like Joe Pesci in My Cousin Vinny. I lived for the first nine years of my life on Long Island. we never adopted the lungislund way if speaking and i am glad we didn't. it hurts my ears when i hear people who have had good educations and are lawyers and doctors say i know-uh!, aw my gawd-uh! 'ORErange instead of arerange' Never in my life noticed it pronounced as arerange.
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Post by sugarbiscuits on Jan 20, 2018 15:42:17 GMT
why can't the English teach their children how to speak? i would really LOVE to teach this in US schools. This actually isn't within the curriculum. not for nothing but what is it with some black people being unable to say the YOU sound with the U letter. ambYOUlance, ridicYOUlous. not being racist at all but i have yet to come across anyone else who can't say YOU when a word with the letter U is within the word. this is one thing and i don't mind it with lay people but i have a hard time when some educators apparently can't speak appropriately. It doesn't make sense why was is said as woz.
I said as sed to rhyme with bed and led. I say groove, prove and move to rhyme but the final two should rhyme with grove. I saw what to rhyme with cot and rot, but it should rhyme with chat. wash and cash should rhyme. watch and catch should as well. I say nation as Nay shun. I say Iron as I un. I'm sure there are many more examples. English seems to have many differences in spelling and pronunciation.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jan 20, 2018 19:23:31 GMT
When it comes right down to it ... bottom line... how you say it matters less than what you say and concentrating on the Right or Wrongness rather than merely delighting in the differences is a waste of time and sucks the fun out of it all. (imo !)
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 20, 2018 19:27:28 GMT
BATouttaheck…except if you’re doing a James Mason impression. Everyone just believes you if you speak with a James Mason impression. “Apologies, my dear. One of the cast members is urinating on my leg—something Garbo didn’t do even at her moodiest.”
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jan 20, 2018 19:30:03 GMT
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 20, 2018 19:33:17 GMT
BATouttaheckAnd it’s worth $1.49 (or whatever price we have it as now) just to hear it! That poor comatose equine…
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