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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 28, 2018 20:13:02 GMT
No wonder it took MCU over a decade to have the first female and black led movies - what DCEU successfully managed within 4 films. That was due to Ike Perlmutter And Ike Perlmutter was in charge of MCU so that's MCU's failure. the DCEU owes the MCU everything since without it there'd be no DCEU movies. Actually, MCU owes everything to DC since without Superman: The Movie, there would be no MCU. And deep down, you know that (even MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has admitted that) and that really bothers you and that's why you keep trying to re-write history and come up with your lame "artificial boosters" excuses. LOL!!! |
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 28, 2018 20:14:31 GMT
watch the movie, the black lead (Deadshot) shared the lead with a White Woman (Harley) and white man (Flagg). If by complex you mean "Incompetent and nonsensical". All she had going for her was being played by Viola Davis. It's a good movie, but it didn't present its intended message as well as it wanted to. The movie is good except for Jor-El's silly "Space God" stuff and then when they get to Metropolis and we meet Luthor it devolves into full-on Camp. Not to mention that silly ending. Continue to endure and endeavor. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Jan 28, 2018 20:15:44 GMT
Obstructive, due to being a Majority Shareholder. Nah, there's be CBM movies without that film. Just like comic superheroes would exist without Superman in general. He's expendable. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 28, 2018 20:20:29 GMT
It's because DC is too busy trying to be different from the MCU while at the same time trying to imitate their shared universe concept and get the same success.
If DC just concentrated on doing their own thing, stopped trying to copy and differentiate themselves from the MCU, stopped trying to copy Nolan's TDK, then they'd be successful.
That's what happened with WW. It was the first DCEU movie that didn't feel like it was trying to copy anything or trying too hard to differentiate itself. It just tried to be a good superhero movie and it worked.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Jan 28, 2018 21:00:15 GMT
No it's not troll. You are only here to provoke. Dude, there is nobody using these boards who doesn't know what's going on. All replies are fully complicit.  That avatar though.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 11:03:50 GMT
Obstructive, due to being a Majority Shareholder. Nah, there's be CBM movies without that film. Just like comic superheroes would exist without Superman in general. He's expendable.
The comic book movies of the past two decades owe a lot to the success of the Mask, the Crow, Men in Black and Blade and even Darkman in the 90s. ‘The Crow’ showed that dark superhero movies could be popular and successful and lead to ‘Blade’ getting a chance on screen and 'Men In Black' was technically Marvel's first big hit on the big screen. 
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Post by sostie on Feb 1, 2018 11:25:16 GMT
I think the credit given to DC for many of those shows and films is a little overstated. Yes they are based on their properties, but they had very little, if any creative involvement, in the TV shows and films. Superman was a success and a benchmark but DC wasn't really involved in the development/production.
DC only really got involved to a point where they could get some credit for what was on screen from after 1990 when they were bought by Time Warner (though the first DC Entertainment production was Steel in 1997).
The same can be said for Marvel (though their ownership of their properties was a real shambles) and Marvel themselves were not really involved in any production to any real extent until Blade in 1998.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 11:38:11 GMT
I think the credit given to DC for many of those shows and films is a little overstated. Yes they are based on their properties, but they had very little, if any creative involvement, in the TV shows and films. Superman was a success and a benchmark but DC wasn't really involved in the development/production. DC only really got involved to a point where they could get some credit for what was on screen from after 1990 when they were bought by Time Warner (though the first DC Entertainment production was Steel in 1997). The same can be said for Marvel (though their ownership of their properties was a real shambles) and Marvel themselves were not really involved in any production to any real extent until Blade in 1998.  |
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Post by sostie on Feb 1, 2018 11:59:20 GMT
I think the credit given to DC for many of those shows and films is a little overstated. Yes they are based on their properties, but they had very little, if any creative involvement, in the TV shows and films. Superman was a success and a benchmark but DC wasn't really involved in the development/production. DC only really got involved to a point where they could get some credit for what was on screen from after 1990 when they were bought by Time Warner (though the first DC Entertainment production was Steel in 1997). The same can be said for Marvel (though their ownership of their properties was a real shambles) and Marvel themselves were not really involved in any production to any real extent until Blade in 1998. I wouldn't deny the the influence or importance of any of those pioneers, or of the likes of Lee, Kirby etc who progressed comics and increased their popularity. But when talking about these publishers "making movies" we can only really talk about the films made under their guidance from the 90's. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Feb 1, 2018 15:18:37 GMT
No it's not troll. You are only here to provoke. Well, he does speak the truth. I am not even sure how it can be argued at this point. |
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Post by DSDSquared on Feb 1, 2018 15:21:01 GMT
All I'm asking for is some movies that don't feel like they were written and directed by monkeys. but that is just what the MCU is, accept it. With it dumbed-down kiddy formula it has ruined everything including the quality CMB and other franchises such as Star Wars. Accordingly, great parts of MCU fans like you are brutalized and trivialized sheep bleating "Meeeh, moooar Maaarvel" and think Godfather, CK & Co are bad movies or that calling black people monkeys is ok. No wonder it took MCU over a decade to have the first female and black led movies - what DCEU successfully managed within 4 films. MCU will go down in history for being that infamously huge raccoon turd for immature manchildren. There is no discussion about that.  This is hilarious. You cannot really believe this. Any casual movie person who would never be on these boards just sees it as a fact that the MCU makes better movies than the DCEU. They just do. It really cannot even be debated at this point. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 1, 2018 16:44:38 GMT
but that is just what the MCU is, accept it. With it dumbed-down kiddy formula it has ruined everything including the quality CMB and other franchises such as Star Wars. Accordingly, great parts of MCU fans like you are brutalized and trivialized sheep bleating "Meeeh, moooar Maaarvel" and think Godfather, CK & Co are bad movies or that calling black people monkeys is ok. No wonder it took MCU over a decade to have the first female and black led movies - what DCEU successfully managed within 4 films. MCU will go down in history for being that infamously huge raccoon turd for immature manchildren. There is no discussion about that. This is hilarious. You cannot really believe this. Any casual movie person who would never be on these boards just sees it as a fact that the MCU makes better movies than the DCEU. They just do. It really cannot even be debated at this point. He's one of those throwbacks who thinks it's still the year 2000 and comics are something to be ashamed of.
Same way Westerns are something to be ashamed of, since it's the same kind of "run around in silly outfits" stuff he dislikes.
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Post by Larcen26 on Feb 1, 2018 16:52:16 GMT
What is the formula they possess and why does DC have such a hard time recreating it? Is Kevin Feige some sort of mystical wizard? Marvel Cinematic Universe: Producers - Marvel Studios DC Extended Universe: Producers - Warner Brothers. Notice the difference. Yes, I know that DC Films is now part of the DCEU, but they aren't as divested from Warner Brothers as is needed. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Feb 1, 2018 17:12:45 GMT
This is hilarious. You cannot really believe this. Any casual movie person who would never be on these boards just sees it as a fact that the MCU makes better movies than the DCEU. They just do. It really cannot even be debated at this point. He's one of those throwbacks who thinks it's still the year 2000 and comics are something to be ashamed of.
Same way Westerns are something to be ashamed of, since it's the same kind of "run around in silly outfits" stuff he dislikes.
you are rather one of these throwbacks stuck with comic book reading in his basement and deeply ashamed of graphic novels. You should be ashamed of yourself and admit that raccoon turd movies have destroyed the grown up blockbuster. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 1, 2018 17:30:44 GMT
He's one of those throwbacks who thinks it's still the year 2000 and comics are something to be ashamed of.
Same way Westerns are something to be ashamed of, since it's the same kind of "run around in silly outfits" stuff he dislikes.
you are rather one of these throwbacks stuck with comic book reading in his basement and deeply ashamed of graphic novels. You should be ashamed of yourself and admit that raccoon turd movies have destroyed the grown up blockbuster. Mmmmm, that salt.
And hypocrisy.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Feb 1, 2018 17:39:33 GMT
you are rather one of these throwbacks stuck with comic book reading in his basement and deeply ashamed of graphic novels. You should be ashamed of yourself and admit that raccoon turd movies have destroyed the grown up blockbuster. Mmmmm, that salt.
And hypocrisy.
I'm afraid considering the degree of soiling those famously huge turd have done to modern cinema no amount of salt will ever make the grown up blockbuster serviceabl again. Look We are merry poopins y'all 🙄 |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 1, 2018 17:59:24 GMT
Mmmmm, that salt.
And hypocrisy.
I'm afraid considering the degree of soiling those famously huge turd have done to modern cinema no amount of salt will ever make the grown up blockbuster serviceabl again. Look We are merry poopins y'all 🙄
Mary Poppins is a great film, so more power to them.
As for "Grown Up" Blockbusters, all the stuff you dislike about the MCU have been part of major blockbuster movies since the first blockbusters.
EDIT: And if Turds bother you so much, don't read Dune. It revolved around Worm turd. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Feb 1, 2018 19:22:02 GMT
I'm afraid considering the degree of soiling those famously huge turd have done to modern cinema no amount of salt will ever make the grown up blockbuster serviceabl again. Look We are merry poopins y'all 🙄
Mary Poppins is a great film, so more power to them.
As for "Grown Up" Blockbusters, all the stuff you dislike about the MCU have been part of major blockbuster movies since the first blockbusters.
EDIT: And if Turds bother you so much, don't read Dune. It revolved around Worm turd. the difference being the worms not talking about their turds and their turds spice-ing the plot up 🌶 That's some turd I can bear as naturalistic |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 1, 2018 19:42:11 GMT
the difference being the worms not talking about their turds No, instead it's everyone else speaking about them. So you don't like it when turds are called turds. Drax should've used "excrement". |
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