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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2018 21:43:22 GMT
I like when people refer to Muslims as Moozlums.
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Post by progressiveelement on Jan 31, 2018 21:45:24 GMT
Kristabananaty
Isamalam
Budamanism
Judamabism
Chowism
Shinnytoe
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Post by koskiewicz on Feb 1, 2018 1:37:15 GMT
...dem damn godless commie basterds will spew any gobblydeegook...
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Post by shadrack on Feb 1, 2018 2:06:16 GMT
Ever notice people pronounce words that have nothing to do with religion wrong?
I imagine there isn't any word in any language that somebody somewhere doesn't mispronounce on a regular basis.
Singling out religious words says more about you than anyone else, IMO.
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Post by shadrack on Feb 1, 2018 3:27:29 GMT
How else did Islam become IZLAM. Since when does an S make a Z sound? 
music reason season cousin disease easy Yeah, you're right. Anybody who pronounces an "s" as a "z" does so because they're intolerant and disrespectful of religion.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 3:32:59 GMT
I say Izlam, and in my case it's ignorance. Now that I think of it, Muslims always pronounce it with a hard 's' sound. I was pronouncing Judaism correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 3:41:22 GMT
Ever notice people pronounce words that have nothing to do with religion wrong? I imagine there isn't any word in any language that somebody somewhere doesn't mispronounce on a regular basis. Singling out religious words says more about you than anyone else, IMO.
How else did Islam become IZLAM. Since when does an S make a Z sound?
I believe that people should be tolerant and respectful of other religions and pronounce them correctly. 
I don't think that 'respect' has anything to do with it, but religions don't deserve respect in any case. |
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Post by captainbryce on Feb 1, 2018 3:42:50 GMT
People say Islam as Izlam, when it's supposed to be an S sound.
People also say Judaism as Jew-dee-ism. It's pronounced Jew-day-ism, like with "Judaic".
Do you think this is intentional and people are meaning to disrespect these religions? Or is it just from ignorance? I think it's neither. Pronunciation varies with regional and individual accents. Someone with a southern drawl might very well pronounce it "Izlamb", while a person with a Middle Eastern accent might pronounce it "Islum". Regardless, we know what someone means when they say it, so what difference does it make? There is no one "correct" pronounciation, other than by accent. Tell people in Bawstohn to stop pronouncing the word car as cah, and they'll probably flip you off. |
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Post by clusium on Feb 1, 2018 5:31:14 GMT
People say Islam as Izlam, when it's supposed to be an S sound.
People also say Judaism as Jew-dee-ism. It's pronounced Jew-day-ism, like with "Judaic".
Do you think this is intentional and people are meaning to disrespect these religions? Or is it just from ignorance? It may also have to do with people's accents as well. |
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Post by Catman on Feb 1, 2018 13:55:26 GMT
Catman is more concerned that people pronounce niche incorrectly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 14:27:17 GMT
People say Islam as Izlam, when it's supposed to be an S sound.
People also say Judaism as Jew-dee-ism. It's pronounced Jew-day-ism, like with "Judaic".
Do you think this is intentional and people are meaning to disrespect these religions? Or is it just from ignorance? Respect is one thing. Reverence is another. A comment you have made elsewhere in the thread seems to indicate that you favor the latter. Your question, however, gives a choice between only two possible answers. I doubt that many, if any, would take offense if I pronounced the name of their religion in a slightly different way than they do. And I don't really think that the alternate pronunciations you mentioned are necessarily incorrect. "Izlam" is simply an American pronunciation of Islam, and "Judy-ism" is so close to "Judai-ism" that you can hardly hear the difference so, I am sure that most Jews would not have a problem with it. Of course we need to treat people with respect but I see no need to revere any religion, philosophy or opinion. |
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Post by general313 on Feb 2, 2018 15:19:55 GMT
How else did Islam become IZLAM. Since when does an S make a Z sound?
music reason season cousin disease easy Yeah, you're right. Anybody who pronounces an "s" as a "z" does so because they're intolerant and disrespectful of religion. There's little doubt that the OP pronounces the last syllable of Judaism as "IZM", not "ISM".  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 17:11:45 GMT
Ever notice people pronounce words that have nothing to do with religion wrong? I imagine there isn't any word in any language that somebody somewhere doesn't mispronounce on a regular basis. Singling out religious words says more about you than anyone else, IMO.
How else did Islam become IZLAM. Since when does an S make a Z sound?
I believe that people should be tolerant and respectful of other religions and pronounce them correctly.
It has nothing to do with disrespect, nor does it have anything to do with ignorance. It has everything to do with the nature of linguistics. I had a cousin from the South whose name was Brian. Clearly, it should be pronounced in a way that rhymes with "lion." His parents never said it that way, though. They called him "Brine." That's how they pronounce "Brian" in the deep South. Am I being disrespectful by pronouncing his name the way that Midwestern dialect dictates I should? No. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 17:14:15 GMT
I'm starting to think the OP is putting us on.
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Post by thefleetsin on Feb 2, 2018 17:15:37 GMT
i'm impressed with anyone who can still use a pen/pencil and write three words that are spelled correctly.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 2, 2018 17:58:07 GMT
i'm impressed with anyone who can still use a pen/pencil and write three words that are spelled correctly. Agreed! And I am more upset when people say 'jew-la-ry' instead of the correct 'jew-el-ry, or use the word 'impacted' instead of knowing when and how to use the words 'affected' or 'effected'.  That being said... I once knew someone who pronounced the word 'muslim' as 'MOOZ-lum'; he was a fundamentalist Christian who hated 'mooz-lums', unable to see that the Christians of the crusades and holy inquisition were just as much 'jihadists' as current day muslim jihadists, and just as brutal. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 18:05:09 GMT
This thread is nuc-u-lar!
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Post by thefleetsin on Feb 2, 2018 18:15:41 GMT
i'm impressed with anyone who can still use a pen/pencil and write three words that are spelled correctly. Agreed! And I am more upset when people say 'jew-la-ry' instead of the correct 'jew-el-ry, or use the word 'impacted' instead of knowing when and how to use the words 'affected' or 'effected'. That being said... I once knew someone who pronounced the word 'muslim' as 'MOOZ-lum'; he was a fundamentalist Christian who hated 'mooz-lums', unable to see that the Christians of the crusades and holy inquisition were just as much 'jihadists' as current day muslim jihadists, and just as brutal. i'm always befuddled with affected and effected. oh maybe not always, but i steer clear. it's called being lazy. |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Feb 2, 2018 18:17:57 GMT
People say Islam as Izlam, when it's supposed to be an S sound.
People also say Judaism as Jew-dee-ism. It's pronounced Jew-day-ism, like with "Judaic".
Do you think this is intentional and people are meaning to disrespect these religions? Or is it just from ignorance? Pronunciations are conventions. I do not think that people are wrong to not follow a particular convention. As if there's only one convention anyway. |
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Feb 2, 2018 18:25:12 GMT
Agreed! And I am more upset when people say 'jew-la-ry' instead of the correct 'jew-el-ry, or use the word 'impacted' instead of knowing when and how to use the words 'affected' or 'effected'. That being said... I once knew someone who pronounced the word 'muslim' as 'MOOZ-lum'; he was a fundamentalist Christian who hated 'mooz-lums', unable to see that the Christians of the crusades and holy inquisition were just as much 'jihadists' as current day muslim jihadists, and just as brutal. i'm always befuddled with affected and effected. oh maybe not always, but i steer clear. it's called being lazy. The older I get, the lazier I get, lol! |
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