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Post by Cody™ on Feb 8, 2018 8:32:08 GMT
This guy's views represent just one of the reasons why I detest Islam and think any civilised society should do its upmost to prevent it from spreading in the west.
Listen to the piece of shit in the video, leftists, then tell us again how Islamic diversity and cultural enrichment are beneficial things and anybody who opposes it is an "Islamophobic" bigot. This is the kind of attitude we're inviting to these shores.
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Post by goz on Feb 8, 2018 8:40:47 GMT
This guy's views represent just one of the reasons why I detest Islam and think any civilised society should do its upmost to prevent it from spreading in the west. Listen to the piece of shit in the video, leftists, then tell us again how Islamic diversity and cultural enrichment are beneficial things and anybody who opposes it is an "Islamophobic" bigot. This is the kind of stuff we're inviting to these shores. Let me get this straight ( and just like I don't open Erjenious University of YouTube videos I did not watch this) After watching the expressed views of one individual on YouTube, you detest a whole religion which is not too different from your own, and like other bigots attribute one view of one Muslim to all Muslims worldwide and further you think that every Muslim immigrant will have the view of the internet YouTube dude, with whom you disagree so strongly? WOW! just wow! |
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 8, 2018 8:54:06 GMT
This guy's views represent just one of the reasons why I detest Islam and think any civilised society should do its upmost to prevent it from spreading in the west. Listen to the piece of shit in the video, leftists, then tell us again how Islamic diversity and cultural enrichment are beneficial things and anybody who opposes it is an "Islamophobic" bigot. This is the kind of stuff we're inviting to these shores. Let me get this straight ( and just like I don't open Erjenious University of YouTube videos I did not watch this) After watching the expressed views of one individual on YouTube, you detest a whole religion which is not too different from your own, and like other bigots attribute one view of one Muslim to all Muslims worldwide and further you think that every Muslim immigrant will have the view of the internet YouTube dude, with whom you disagree so strongly? WOW! just wow! The problem is just about every view he expressed in the video conforms with Islamic scripture. I can provide the references which literally teach Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends, not to give them your food, not to invite them to your homes, to subjugate them, view them as inferior, threaten them with extortion, humiliate them until they have little choice but to convert to Islam. |
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Post by goz on Feb 8, 2018 8:57:15 GMT
Let me get this straight ( and just like I don't open Erjenious University of YouTube videos I did not watch this) After watching the expressed views of one individual on YouTube, you detest a whole religion which is not too different from your own, and like other bigots attribute one view of one Muslim to all Muslims worldwide and further you think that every Muslim immigrant will have the view of the internet YouTube dude, with whom you disagree so strongly? WOW! just wow! The problem is just about every view he expressed in the video conforms with Islamic scripture. I can provide the references which literally teach Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends, not to give them your food, not to invite them to your homes, to subjugate them, view them as enferior, threaten them with extortion, humiliate them until they have little choice but to convert to Islam. Really? and what evidence do you have that all Muslims around the world subscribe to that or even and especially the immigrant ones? |
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 8, 2018 9:00:47 GMT
The problem is just about every view he expressed in the video conforms with Islamic scripture. I can provide the references which literally teach Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends, not to give them your food, not to invite them to your homes, to subjugate them, view them as enferior, threaten them with extortion, humiliate them until they have little choice but to convert to Islam. Really? and what evidence do you have that all Muslims around the world subscribe to that or even and especially the immigrant ones? Yeah I'm not playing this silly little game with an idiot like you again. Go away. |
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Post by goz on Feb 8, 2018 9:07:45 GMT
Really? and what evidence do you have that all Muslims around the world subscribe to that or even and especially the immigrant ones? Yeah I'm not playing this silly little game with an idiot like you again. Go away. LOL. No cogent coherent answer to your endemic bigotry? I don't think it is a game when people like you are so bigoted that it could impact the lives of potential immigrants of any religion, or in fact no religion of which you religious bigots (like Trump et al) disapprove/hate. It is NOT a game as it is disgraceful bigotry which is also the antithesis of what your Jesus preached you hypocrite and thoroughly obnoxious person. |
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Post by goz on Feb 8, 2018 9:18:35 GMT
Really? and what evidence do you have that all Muslims around the world subscribe to that or even and especially the immigrant ones? Yeah I'm not playing this silly little game with an idiot like you again. Go away. and further because you are such a disgusting worm... Let's change what you just wrote with the word 'Jew' instead of Muslim and see who your little diatribe reminds us of...... Godwin's Law notwithstanding Maybe Trump is building gas ovens as well as a stupid wall? |
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 8, 2018 9:36:20 GMT
goz The evidence is that most Muslims favour making Sharia law of the land. And part of Sharia law is Dhimmitude(which is the general topic the creep in the video is yapping about). A Dhimmi is the name given to non-Muslims living in Muslim lands who are basically obligated to pay tax(Jizya) for their own protection. Most Muslim immigrants come from lands which indoctrinate them with this mindset. Only thing is while Muslims remain a minority they can't do much about it. But the more their population grows the bigger pests they're going to become. We're already seeing evidence of that around these parts and yet they supposedly only make up under 10% of the population. This is something ugly deranged leftists like you cannot understand.
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Post by cupcakes on Feb 8, 2018 9:46:22 GMT
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 8, 2018 20:21:55 GMT
gozI apologise for this statement. Was uncalled for.
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Post by goz on Feb 8, 2018 20:49:35 GMT
goz The evidence is that most Muslims favour making Sharia law of the land. And part of Sharia law is Dhimmitude(which is the general topic the creep in the video is yapping about). A Dhimmi is the name given to non-Muslims living in Muslim lands who are basically obligated to pay tax(Jizya) for their own protection. Most Muslim immigrants come from lands which indoctrinate them with this mindset. Only thing is while Muslims remain a minority they can't do much about it. But the more their population grows the bigger pests they're going to become. We're already seeing evidence of that around these parts and yet they supposedly only make up under 10% of the population. This is something ugly deranged leftists like you cannot understand. How can you say this shit and still maintain that you are a 'Christian'? ( oh wait! you probably say all that about homosexuals, except maybe for the reproducing part )especially with your completely unscientific 'most Muslims ' ...are everything I hate and fear and watch out because we angelic Christians are all doomed. This is tribalism based on religion gone mad. There is no place for it in a global society which requires the redistribution of population due to war and famine through no fault of their own. It is backward, uneducated and bigoted in this day and age to renew ideas from the past like, 'The Yellow Peril', 'Reds Under the Bed' and as I mentioned fascist persecution of Jews, blacks in America and indigenous populations and countless other minorities. It just makes you and those other nasty Islamophobes on here look like fear mongering nasty individuals, with no brains, sense of perspective let alone empathy for your fellow human beings. Some crappy little Christian hypocrite YOU are! ...AND you dare to claim that THEY are 'brainwashed'........seriously? |
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Post by captainbryce on Feb 8, 2018 21:41:09 GMT
Really? and what evidence do you have that all Muslims around the world subscribe to that or even and especially the immigrant ones? Yeah I'm not playing this silly little game with an idiot like you again. Go away. Okay well then consider playing it with me (because you started this little game in the first place). You just got finished trying to criticize me for expressing similar views (though much less hateful) about Christianity on another thread. Yet here you are essentially admitting to being a “Muslim hater” by doing the very thing you accused me of. Hipocrisy much? Goz’s question was entirely legitimate. If the reason you hate Islam is because of this ONE person’s interpretation of it, and you support that hate because YOU can interpret Islamic scripture to be supportive of his views, then logically you must be assuming that most Muslims also conform to those teachings and share a similar interpretation. Is that your claim? Because if it is, then that claim is based on nothing more than an ignorant stereotype (and I’m pretty sure it can easily be disproved). If that is NOT your claim, then you are simply prejudging EVERYONE who professes this religion based on the actions of few, which is no different from people who persecute Christians. So which one is it? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 21:50:06 GMT
I'm not watching the video, but I'll bet all the money in my pocket that "Honest" in this case means "Aligned with my existing beliefs".
I could as easily post video of Steven Anderson saying all gays are pedophiles and should be killed. I could call it "Honest christian preaching". What would it prove? Not that much.
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Post by captainbryce on Feb 8, 2018 21:53:48 GMT
goz The evidence is that most Muslims favour making Sharia law of the land. Oh really? What “evidence” would that be exactly? Because the evidence I’ve found flat out refutes your claim. Pew Research Center survey of Muslims in 39 countries asked Muslims whether they want sharia law, a legal code based on the Quran and other Islamic scripture, to be the official law of the land in their country. Responses on this question vary widely. Nearly all Muslims in Afghanistan (99%) and most in Iraq (91%) and Pakistan (84%) support sharia law as official law. But in some other countries, especially in Eastern Europe and Central Asia – including Turkey (12%), Kazakhstan (10%) and Azerbaijan (8%) – relatively few favor the implementation of sharia law.Pew Research Center Keep in mind those are all Muslim majority countries! |
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Post by thorshairspray on Feb 9, 2018 3:13:02 GMT
goz The evidence is that most Muslims favour making Sharia law of the land. Oh really? What “evidence” would that be exactly? Because the evidence I’ve found flat out refutes your claim. Pew Research Center survey of Muslims in 39 countries asked Muslims whether they want sharia law, a legal code based on the Quran and other Islamic scripture, to be the official law of the land in their country. Responses on this question vary widely. Nearly all Muslims in Afghanistan (99%) and most in Iraq (91%) and Pakistan (84%) support sharia law as official law. But in some other countries, especially in Eastern Europe and Central Asia – including Turkey (12%), Kazakhstan (10%) and Azerbaijan (8%) – relatively few favor the implementation of sharia law.Pew Research Center Keep in mind those are all Muslim majority countries! You might want to plug some actual numbers in though. The three nations with low scores there have a combined population of 110,000,000. Pakistan alone has over 200,000,000. Indonesia scores 72% and has over 260,000,000, so those two nations give you around 360,000,000 in favour of sharia. Thats about a quarter of all Muslim Worldwide from two nations. |
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 9, 2018 3:33:31 GMT
I'm not watching the video, but I'll bet all the money in my pocket that "Honest" in this case means "Aligned with my existing beliefs". I could as easily post video of Steven Anderson saying all gays are pedophiles and should be killed. I could call it "Honest christian preaching". What would it prove? Not that much. No. Honest means aligned with the teachings of Islam in the strictest sense. The key difference which you liberal atheists don't seem to take into account when making these silly comparisons is that Steven Anderson can't reasonably reconcile his views with his religion. Christians are not taught to consider all gays pedos who should be killed. Even if you could point to some verse from the OT and construe it that way, it would be futile anyway because Christians are not under the old covenant. The plank in the video however can reference explicit unambiguous guidelines and commands from the Quran and Hadith which teach in no uncertain terms virtually everything he utters. He even calls out Muslims who try to sugar coat Islam calling them liars, giving the example of Jihad in the historical sense supposedly being about defensive war. Something most Muslims like to claim. He calls it nonsense and evidences why. So Steven Anderson's outlandish views are not conforming with the teachings of Christianity whereas this Muslim is conforming to the teachings of Islam to a T. Why do you atheists love overlooking this significant fact when trying to throw all religions under the bus? |
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Post by Cody™ on Feb 9, 2018 3:39:07 GMT
captainbryceI believe I said "one of the reasons". Don't misrepresent me.
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Post by captainbryce on Feb 9, 2018 3:41:01 GMT
Oh really? What “evidence” would that be exactly? Because the evidence I’ve found flat out refutes your claim. Pew Research Center survey of Muslims in 39 countries asked Muslims whether they want sharia law, a legal code based on the Quran and other Islamic scripture, to be the official law of the land in their country. Responses on this question vary widely. Nearly all Muslims in Afghanistan (99%) and most in Iraq (91%) and Pakistan (84%) support sharia law as official law. But in some other countries, especially in Eastern Europe and Central Asia – including Turkey (12%), Kazakhstan (10%) and Azerbaijan (8%) – relatively few favor the implementation of sharia law.Pew Research Center Keep in mind those are all Muslim majority countries! You might want to plug some actual numbers in though. The three nations with low scores there have a combined population of 110,000,000. Pakistan alone has over 200,000,000. Indonesia scores 72% and has over 260,000,000, so those two nations give you around 360,000,000 in favour of sharia. Thats about a quarter of all Muslim Worldwide from two nations. Its actually Cody who has to plug in the data since he’s the one making the claim (burden of proof and all). And that would include plugging in ALL the numbers from countries like India, China, and Russia (countries with tens of millions of Muslims for which there is NO data on this question). In particular attention should be paid to westernized countries where secular law has commonly been practiced. Because that’s really what’s relevant as it compared to our own society. How do most Muslim Americans or Muslim Canadians feel about Sharia as the law of the land? And I think you’ll find that like Christians (who’s religious views are often influenced by their own culture), Muslim ideology varies based on the type of cultural norms they are accustomed to. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 3:43:44 GMT
I'm not watching the video, but I'll bet all the money in my pocket that "Honest" in this case means "Aligned with my existing beliefs". I could as easily post video of Steven Anderson saying all gays are pedophiles and should be killed. I could call it "Honest christian preaching". What would it prove? Not that much. No. Honest means aligned with the teachings of Islam in the strictest sense. Can you spot the weasel words you used in that? Yes, it's "in the strictest sense". Another phrase that means you're simply selecting sources to fit your opinion, rather than vice versa. Again, this is something that could be done for any religion. This is nonsensical. He not only can do that, he rather obviously already has. What you mean here is that he can't reasonable reconcile his views with YOUR religion. Which is exactly what many muslims would say about those who go around beheading people for islam. Yes, actually some christians are taught exactly that. Mr Anderson and his flock are teaching their kids this. And that is the rationalisation you use to avoid the parts of your religion that you don't like and don't want to follow. This is common in any religion; there are plenty of muslims that can give you rationalisations as to why the terrorists are wrong and cannot possibly justify their beliefs. And the terrorists say exactly the same thing about the moderates. Your error is that you choose to think that one take on a religion is the "real" one and anybody who disagrees is doing it wrong. When in fact religions are like ink blot tests; what one sees in them and takes from them is as much a reflection of oneself as it is of the religion. Because it's not actually a "fact". It's an expression of what you wish were true, and isn't. |
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Post by captainbryce on Feb 9, 2018 3:44:16 GMT
captainbryce I believe I said "one of the reasons". Don't misrepresent me. Then that is based on nothing more than an ignorant stereotype! What about the millions and millions of Muslims who do NOT interpret Islam that way? They should be disparaged and denigrated because you want to lump them all in the same box? Isn’t that basically what you are accusing me of doing with Christianity (even though I never said I hated Christianity at all)? |
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