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Post by charzhino on Feb 10, 2018 23:38:27 GMT
No he didn't. They did it purely for laughs at the expense of thor. Yes he did, you need to get over your innate bias against anything that has any levity in it whatsoever. Dr Who does this sort of thing all the time. Its LAME slapstick comedy that makes the main hero look like a idiot.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 10, 2018 23:47:56 GMT
Yes he did, you need to get over your innate bias against anything that has any levity in it whatsoever. Dr Who does this sort of thing all the time. Its LAME slapstick comedy that makes the main hero look like a idiot. It's ANY kind of levity. Unless it's your Fox stuff, then you eat it up like with anything Deadpool does no matter how silly. And Thor's thing was a deliberate distraction that worked.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 10, 2018 23:50:19 GMT
They took a chance attempting a cinematic universe without their biggest properties - X Men and Spiderman BULLSHIT!!!
MCU did NOT take a chance attempting to create a cinematic universe without X-Men and Spider-Man. If MCU had a choice, they would've used X-Men and Spider-Man for their cinematic universe and would never have made a Iron Man or Hulk or Captain America or Thor movie, but Marvel had NO CHOICE because they signed away the rights to X-Men and Spider-Man.
Saying that Marvel took a chance creating a cinematic universe without X-Men and Spider-Man is as silly as saying the Philadelphia Eagles took a chance starting a backup QB (Nick Foles) in the Super Bowl. The Eagles had no choice because their starting QB (Carson Wentz) got injured so the Eagles had to start their backup QB in the Super Bowl. Likewise, MCU had to use Iron Man and Captain America and Hulk NOT because they wanted to but because they had no choice after signing away the rights to X-Men and Spider-Man.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Feb 10, 2018 23:53:08 GMT
They took a chance attempting a cinematic universe without their biggest properties - X Men and Spiderman as silly as saying the Philadelphia Eagles took a chance starting a backup QB (Nick Foles) in the Super Bowl. The Eagles had no choice because their starting QB (Carson Wentz) got injured so the Eagles had to start their backup QB in the Super Bowl. No one cares.
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Post by sostie on Feb 10, 2018 23:56:00 GMT
They took a chance attempting a cinematic universe without their biggest properties - X Men and Spiderman BULLSHIT!!!
MCU did NOT take a chance attempting to create a cinematic universe without X-Men and Spider-Man. If MCU had a choice, they would've used X-Men and Spider-Man for their cinematic universe and would never have made a Iron Man or Hulk or Captain America or Thor movie, but Marvel had NO CHOICE because they signed away the rights to X-Men and Spider-Man.
And went ahead and made them...a risk. Sorry pal...most of the rest of the world don't give a shit about Rugby Lite...stop with the comparisons...we just switch off (more than we normally do at your ramblings. ANY COMMENT ON THE OSCAR NOMINATIONS BY THE WAY
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Feb 10, 2018 23:57:17 GMT
How about make a film thats on the same level of quality as Logan or Dark Knight for starters. But we know Disney dont have the guts to make an adult & mature CBM. Depends on your standards of adult and mature. If you're talking an hard-R filled with violence and blood like Logan, the no. Go to the Netflix universe for that with Daredevil and Punisher. But the MCU has delt with mature and adult-orientated issues with their films. I'd consider Winter Soldier and Civil War on par with The Dark Knight. And CW and Winter Soldier both deal with adult and mature-orientated situations, but in a comic book fashion, which they should, because they are superhero films after all. Winter Soldier deals with government surveillance and espionage and pre-emptive law enforcement, which today is even still talked about and relevant to our society. Civil War then looks at government oversight and deals with the concept of utilitarianism and deontology between Rogers and Stark. But again, they are Comic Book Movies!! So no, they don't play it completely straight with these themes, but they're still there. The Dark Knight plays it a bit more straight, which it gets away with because Batman is a more darker character and Nolan played it that way with the grounded approach from Batman Begins. But even then, watch The Dark Knight again, it's serious with a bit of grit to it, but it's not overly dark and depressing which I think the DCEU has mixed up. The Dark Knight does have a lot of levity and fun moments between Bruce and the characters he interact with, especially with Alfred. It has heart. Same with Winter Soldier and Civil War with their characters. If you really think a superhero film should be judged based solely on it's rating and pushing the boundaries of a R-rating, then you're going to be disappointed. Not every superhero can fit a dark tone.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 11, 2018 0:08:08 GMT
They took a chance attempting a cinematic universe without their biggest properties - X Men and Spiderman
MCU did NOT take a chance attempting to create a cinematic universe without X-Men and Spider-Man.
Yes, they did.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 11, 2018 0:25:26 GMT
MCU did NOT take a chance attempting to create a cinematic universe without X-Men and Spider-Man.
Yes, they did. Nah, they just gamed the system with artificial boosters and got lucky enough to fall ass-backwards into making chicken salad out of chicken shit. They were stuck with D-listers and they've been absolutely desperate to be rid of them, hence their relentless quest to acquire actual A-listers.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 11, 2018 0:31:29 GMT
Nah, they just gamed the system with artificial boosters and got lucky enough to fall ass-backwards into making chicken salad out of chicken shit. I know, like most toxic X-Fans, you hate every Marvel character that isn't X-Men or Spidey-related....but you're going to have to deal with that. Marvel has finally woken up too the fact their other characters are worthwhile and they're not going to just ignore that. The X-Men's days as the belle of the ball are over.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 11, 2018 0:36:56 GMT
Nah, they just gamed the system with artificial boosters and got lucky enough to fall ass-backwards into making chicken salad out of chicken shit. I know, like most toxic X-Fans, you hate every Marvel character that isn't X-Men or Spidey-related....but you're going to have to deal with that. Marvel has finally woken up too the fact their other characters are worthwhile and they're not going to just ignore that. The X-Men's days as the belle of the ball are over. Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong. The dominance of the X- and Spider-movies is reborn with the Fox deal that you foolishly applauded. The war is just beginning. And I will not be the last XCU fan!!!1 [camera cuts to charzhino telekinetically lifting rocks...]
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 11, 2018 0:39:12 GMT
Amazing. Every word of what you just said was true. Fixed. Fixed. It's time for the FoX-Men...to end.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 11, 2018 0:43:28 GMT
Amazing. Every word of what you just said was true. Fixed. Fixed. It's time for the FoX-Men...to end. If one is to understand the great mystery of Marvel, one must study all its aspects, not just the dogmatic, narrow view of the MCU. If you wish to become a complete and wise leader, you must embrace a larger view of the new, X- and Spider-centric Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 11, 2018 0:48:58 GMT
Fixed. Fixed. It's time for the FoX-Men...to end. If one is to understand the great mystery of Marvel, one must study all its aspects, not just the dogmatic, narrow view of the XCU. If you wish to become a complete and wise leader, you must embrace a larger view of the new, X- and Spider-centric Marvel Cinematic Universe. Fixed.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Feb 11, 2018 0:55:02 GMT
They took a chance attempting a cinematic universe without their biggest properties - X Men and Spiderman BULLSHIT!!!
MCU did NOT take a chance attempting to create a cinematic universe without X-Men and Spider-Man. If MCU had a choice, they would've used X-Men and Spider-Man for their cinematic universe and would never have made a Iron Man or Hulk or Captain America or Thor movie, but Marvel had NO CHOICE because they signed away the rights to X-Men and Spider-Man.
Saying that Marvel took a chance creating a cinematic universe without X-Men and Spider-Man is as silly as saying the Philadelphia Eagles took a chance starting a backup QB (Nick Foles) in the Super Bowl. The Eagles had no choice because their starting QB (Carson Wentz) got injured so the Eagles had to start their backup QB in the Super Bowl. Likewise, MCU had to use Iron Man and Captain America and Hulk NOT because they wanted to but because they had no choice after signing away the rights to X-Men and Spider-Man.
Up till Civil War, the fact they've gotten that far successfully without the needs of the X-Men or Spider-Man is a huge risk and taking a chance from the beginning. Nobody cared about Iron Man at the time. Captain America's name floated around, but again, no one particularly cared. Thor? I didn't even know he had his own comic in Marvel. B-list, almost C-List characters, who had nothing on the popularity of Batman and Superman. They did have a choice. They could have not gone through with it until they could get the X-Men and Spider-Man back, but they didn't. They were like "fuck it" lets just run with the characters they were able to use, and made them almost, if not, more, popular than Batman and Superman. That's called taking a huge chance. The MCU redefined what a cinematic universe is!
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 11, 2018 1:10:14 GMT
If one is to understand the great mystery of Marvel, one must study all its aspects, not just the dogmatic, narrow view of the XCU. If you wish to become a complete and wise leader, you must embrace a larger view of the new, X- and Spider-centric Marvel Cinematic Universe. Fixed. Can't fix what ain't broken.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 11, 2018 1:12:03 GMT
BULLSHIT!!!
MCU did NOT take a chance attempting to create a cinematic universe without X-Men and Spider-Man. If MCU had a choice, they would've used X-Men and Spider-Man for their cinematic universe and would never have made a Iron Man or Hulk or Captain America or Thor movie, but Marvel had NO CHOICE because they signed away the rights to X-Men and Spider-Man.
Saying that Marvel took a chance creating a cinematic universe without X-Men and Spider-Man is as silly as saying the Philadelphia Eagles took a chance starting a backup QB (Nick Foles) in the Super Bowl. The Eagles had no choice because their starting QB (Carson Wentz) got injured so the Eagles had to start their backup QB in the Super Bowl. Likewise, MCU had to use Iron Man and Captain America and Hulk NOT because they wanted to but because they had no choice after signing away the rights to X-Men and Spider-Man.
Up till Civil War, the fact they've gotten that far successfully without the needs of the X-Men or Spider-Man is a huge risk and taking a chance from the beginning. Nobody cared about Iron Man at the time. Captain America's name floated around, but again, no one particularly cared. Thor? I didn't even know he had his own comic in Marvel. B-list, almost C-List characters, who had nothing on the popularity of Batman and Superman. They did have a choice. They could have not gone through with it until they could get the X-Men and Spider-Man back, but they didn't. They were like "fuck it" lets just run with the characters they were able to use, and made them almost, if not, more, popular than Batman and Superman. That's called taking a huge chance. The MCU redefined what a cinematic universe is! And on top of that, even after they'd made Iron Man and the others into A-Listers they could've easily just stuck with them...but instead they chose to go even further with films like Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 11, 2018 1:12:45 GMT
Can't fix what ain't broken. The MCU, I agree.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 11, 2018 1:16:51 GMT
Can't fix what ain't broken. The MCU, I agree. Soon, the X-Men will reveal themselves to the D-listers. Soon, we will have revenge.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 11, 2018 1:19:01 GMT
Soon, the X-Men will reveal themselves to the D-listers. Soon, we will have revenge. And soon, they'll be forced to realize that if they have any future, the X-Men must learn to co-exist with others. After all, that's what X-Men is all about isn't it?
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 11, 2018 1:31:04 GMT
Soon, the X-Men will reveal themselves to the D-listers. Soon, we will have revenge. And soon, they'll be forced to realize that if they have any future, the X-Men must learn to co-exist with others. After all, that's what X-Men is all about isn't it? Nah, it's about Charles Xavier being sort of a sociopath with the lives of multiple generations of teenagers and young adults whose insecurities and outcast status he exploits for political and ulterior motives under the guise of molding them intellectually. I -- I mean, it's the thing you said.
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