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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 14, 2018 16:50:07 GMT
Whew! I was wondering… Excellent puzzle, drystyx, and my sincere thanks to Rodney Farber for filling us in on a rule of baseball and figuring out the main clue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2018 17:16:07 GMT
We want more!
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 14, 2018 19:01:28 GMT
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Post by Rodney Farber on Feb 16, 2018 14:30:51 GMT
There are confusing items in this puzzle that I would like the OP to explain. (text omitted) The other detectives want to make inquiries, but Columbo is ready to make an arrest. He knows who the killer is. Who does he arrest? Why do the other detectives want (or need) to make inquiries. Since the murder took place in New York, are the other detectives total morons? How could they be ignorant of the fact that four of the brothers were seen in Minnesota at the time of the murder. You mention "5:06 p.m. EST" on 30-JUN-2018, yet EDT (not EST) will be the legal time in NY on that date. Is there some plot twist that I'm missing? Columbo finds they were all in a ball game against the Minnesota Twins that day, How is it possible for Che to be at the game in Minnesota and commit murder in New York? The OP stated that knowledge of baseball was necessary. The Yankees scored eleven runs in the eleventh inning in fifteen minutes. That means that at least fourteen players came to bat. Even if we assume that all fourteen received just one pitch, is that even possible? Unless the Minnesota Twins were Ashley and Mary Kate Olsen, don't ya think the Twins manager would replace the pitcher after four consecutive men get on base as soon as they come to bat? That takes a few minutes.
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 16, 2018 15:32:06 GMT
Rodney FarberObviously, I’m not the OP, but I think many of your critiques simply refer to points that make the puzzle work. Think, for example, of the “detective throws a coin out every window” puzzle; the guy would have to be an idiot if he went through all that instead of just looking at the windows. It’s a riddle, to be analyzed not for the realism but for the puzzle. I’d guess that the EST/EDT and “all at a ball game” points are just mistakes, but if drystyx has another twist planned, I’d love it! And, if it makes it any better, what if Che went to a ballgame after killing Fabio?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 16:34:58 GMT
There are confusing items in this puzzle that I would like the OP to explain. (text omitted) The other detectives want to make inquiries, but Columbo is ready to make an arrest. He knows who the killer is. Who does he arrest? Why do the other detectives want (or need) to make inquiries. Since the murder took place in New York, are the other detectives total morons? How could they be ignorant of the fact that four of the brothers were seen in Minnesota at the time of the murder. You mention "5:06 p.m. EST" on 30-JUN-2018, yet EDT (not EST) will be the legal time in NY on that date. Is there some plot twist that I'm missing? Columbo finds they were all in a ball game against the Minnesota Twins that day, How is it possible for Che to be at the game in Minnesota and commit murder in New York? He's not in Minnesota. That's where knowledge of the game comes in how the very riddle is solved.
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 16, 2018 16:39:12 GMT
@winterssuicide That’s Rodney Farber’s point. The text explicitly states that “they were all in a ball game against the Minnesota Twins” (emphasis mine). Yet the solution reveals that that’s not true, as 4 of them were in Minnesota and Che was in New York. Rodney’s objecting to this on fair-play grounds (i.e., all clues should be fairly presented to the reader, and the author, in his own person, should never tell a falsehood, intentionally or not); I don’t particularly mind, but I suppose he’s technically correct.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 16:45:15 GMT
@winterssuicide That’s Rodney Farber ’s point. The text explicitly states that “they were all in a ball game against the Minnesota Twins” (emphasis mine). Yet the solution reveals that that’s not true, as 4 of them were in Minnesota and Che was in New York. Rodney’s objecting to this on fair-play grounds (i.e., all clues should be fairly presented to the reader, and the author, in his own person, should never tell a falsehood, intentionally or not); I don’t particularly mind, but I suppose he’s technically correct. Ah, good catch. Text should read "The Yankees" were in a ball game...
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