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Post by Captain Spencer on Feb 13, 2018 20:25:51 GMT
For a large portion of people physical media is dying altogether. I’ll still buy dvd and blu ray, but with so many different streaming sites and on demand options cropping up over the past several years I don’t think you’ll see another takeover the way dvd took over vhs. I think the physical copies will just die out the same way. It’s a shame really because there something to actually holding the product in your hand. I just think that’s where America at least is heading. It's really sad to think that DVD/Blu-ray will possibly be extinct someday. Especially for those of us who are avid movie collectors and appreciate watching special features.
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Post by Marv on Feb 13, 2018 20:33:36 GMT
For a large portion of people physical media is dying altogether. I’ll still buy dvd and blu ray, but with so many different streaming sites and on demand options cropping up over the past several years I don’t think you’ll see another takeover the way dvd took over vhs. I think the physical copies will just die out the same way. It’s a shame really because there something to actually holding the product in your hand. I just think that’s where America at least is heading. It's really sad to think that DVD/Blu-ray will possibly be extinct someday. Especially for those of us who are avid movie collectors and appreciate watching special features. I just think it’s a product of technology. There’s always a day when it will adapt and advance to something else. My grandparents have closets full of vhs tapes that they’ve collected over the 20 or 30 Years it was a thing. When VCRs were becoming a dinosaur they bought 2 new ones to guarantee they could watch their movies. It is kind of sad to think about that something you’ve enjoyed for so long may become obsolete but that’s kind of the essence of life.
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Post by MCDemuth on Feb 13, 2018 20:50:24 GMT
but with so many different streaming sites and on demand options cropping up over the past several years And that's a problem. How many were there 5 years ago? 5? How many now? 20? It seems that every TV Station, and every Movie Studio now wants their own streaming site. We could see as many as 500, or more, 10 years from now... If every one of those site charges you at least $10.00 for monthly access... People will have to spend $5,000.00 a month to be able to get access to every one... That comes to 60,000.00 a year! Can You afford that? I can't! I think the physical copies will just die out the same way. I probably don't buy more than about 50 DVDs/Blu-ray a year... If they were all about $30.00 a piece... That would only be about $1500.00 a year for me to just buy the media I want, on DVDs/Blu-ray, and can watch them when ever I feel like it... Streaming service change what they offer frequently! And I could save $58,500.00 a year, by buying physical media... and I won't be paying for crap that I don't want. I don't think physical media is really doomed anytime soon. Even if it is, I still can't afford to subscribe to every streaming site. That means I won't be able to watch a lot of the new programming... I hope that studio are factoring that into their future profits, because if too many people can't afford to pay to see their programming, their profits are not going to be very big... At least with "Manufacture On Demand" services for DVDs/Blu-ray/4 K media, money can still keep coming in for them.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Feb 13, 2018 21:40:51 GMT
Marv I've been trying to explain that for three years to a woman I work with; she can't understand why I buy Blu-rays all the time. "But you can just stream stuff, why buy a disc?" It makes no sense to her, no matter how many different ways I try to explain it. Of course, she's damn happy I do buy them right now, as I'm doing the "one Marvel movie a week routine" leading up to Infinity War and I'm bringing her each movie in once I've watched them so she can do the same. She can't do that with streaming, not all the titles are available that way.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Feb 13, 2018 23:14:22 GMT
My blu library is nearly 20% the size of my dvds, of course I've many special interest (tv, WWE, animateds) on dvd never released to blu.
I've only double dipped on my Wes Anderson titles, which because going from regular dvd editions to blu Criterion isn't really 1-1, it's a legit upward investment.
Handful of Disney classics & Hollywood b&w classics, I've kept the dvds without upping. I've read/seen that their truest transfers were dvd, that high-def editions of anything pre-1960 or so is either a wash or worse.
Hollywood's slow demise from must-see territory + my nearing 40yrs old a lot less impressionable = I still buy 3-5 blus a year, which is down from 20-30 dvds I was picking up 10+ yrs ago. So it's not the technology/physical copy stuff which is slowing me down, it's those factors too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 23:19:23 GMT
I heard that the difference in Blu Ray to 4K isn't really that much to make it justifiable to buy the equipment and go upgrading discs again. Also, you apparently need to be sitting pretty close to the screen in order to get the full benefit of 4K.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 23:22:27 GMT
I think an indication of blu ray's success is that a lot of the titles are fairly cheap ($12 or less) indicating there are more than enough people buying them to consider it more mainstream than a niche market. To point to DVD still being around as evidence of blu ray failing isn't true - despite the plethora of music download options, sales of vinyl records are very robust.
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Post by koskiewicz on Feb 13, 2018 23:45:57 GMT
...I buy DVS's for $1...used. And I am able to examine them before I purchase to determine if there are defects, scratches...etc...
I've acquired hundreds of DVD's in this fashion...
If it is a movie I don't like, I give it away or throw it out...LOL...!!!
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Post by MCDemuth on Feb 14, 2018 1:39:04 GMT
despite the plethora of music download options, sales of vinyl records are very robust.No Kidding! I bought a Valentine's Day Card at Walmart for my parents last week... And I got one of the most surprising shocks of my life... They had a few specialty gift cards with real 45 RPM vinyl records in them (that did feature 'Love' songs)... I COULDN'T BELIEVE MY EYES!I thought to myself: " Why would any business gamble sales on a GIFT product with such "obsolete" technology like that? After all, what are the odds, that the recipient of the card, would have a record player these days, that could play it?" But, apparently, there must be enough people still buying vinyl records to risk profits on such a limited-time gift product...
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 14, 2018 1:53:20 GMT
People can praise Blu-Ray and 4K all they want, but it is a fact... that older science fiction media reveals cheap SFX, like wire work, on the newer media... and in some cases, up converting any older video to Blu-Ray makes it look worse... Especially TV Shows that were made on Video Tape. People may prefer DVDs because the video presentation is less offensive to them. I know that many people including myself, do not care to see the germs inside the pores on the faces of the actors, when watching Blu-Ray and 4K. I agree with all of this.
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Post by moviemouth on Feb 14, 2018 2:04:31 GMT
Marv I've been trying to explain that for three years to a woman I work with; she can't understand why I buy Blu-rays all the time. "But you can just stream stuff, why buy a disc?" It makes no sense to her, no matter how many different ways I try to explain it. Of course, she's damn happy I do buy them right now, as I'm doing the "one Marvel movie a week routine" leading up to Infinity War and I'm bringing her each movie in once I've watched them so she can do the same. She can't do that with streaming, not all the titles are available that way. I understand both arguments. I use to collect DVD's but I just lost interest and now I just watch movies on streaming. I have never been much for special features because it takes away from the movie to know how everything is done behind the scenes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2018 2:06:07 GMT
My mother had a 45 rpm record once that was a piece of card instead of vinyl. I'm still amazed that it played.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Feb 14, 2018 3:39:35 GMT
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Post by vegalyra on Feb 14, 2018 4:03:05 GMT
I heard that the difference in Blu Ray to 4K isn't really that much to make it justifiable to buy the equipment and go upgrading discs again. Also, you apparently need to be sitting pretty close to the screen in order to get the full benefit of 4K. Well, if you have a super large screen 60" + a true 4K disc will look wonderful as long as it is a true 4K film A lot of 4K discs being marketed weren't even filmed in 4K and are being upconverted (many modern films done digitally were filmed in 2k). There are some true 4k films out there for sale, but you have to do some research.
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Post by geode on Feb 14, 2018 10:00:04 GMT
It is the best way to watch media so in that area, it is a success. Streaming has not caught up to the picture quality imo. I don;t know why anyone would watch a movie on regular DVD that can be watched on Blu-Ray. 4K is the best way now.... Z Yes, but a lot fewer titles are being issued in UHD than in blu-day.
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Post by HumanFundRecipient on Feb 14, 2018 10:17:42 GMT
Not when the multiple extras that would have gone on to the DVD in its early years are now found on the Blu-ray. I won't buy a DVD for a movie I really love unless it's part of a combo, or if it's a Criterion Collection DVD. Or if the DVD is $5 or less.
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Post by sjg on Feb 14, 2018 10:40:40 GMT
The main reason i prefer blu-ray over DVD is the quality of the sound. The picture quality on a good quality DVD is usually good enough but the sound can suffer when its cranked up where a blu-ray can really rock!
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Post by Roberto on Feb 14, 2018 10:48:53 GMT
Of course not. Nowhere near a failure. DVD still being so popular confuses me greatly.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Feb 14, 2018 11:27:38 GMT
Failure, no but in most cases (well, in the few physical music/movie stores that is left as of 2018 or at least in my country) and that I visit as often as I can, there is still far more DVDs placed out than it is of Blu-rays but the price gap between the two formats are no longer that big, in fact several times a brand new movie release can be much cheaper on Blu-ray than DVD.
My "problem" is that I began collecting films first on VHS in the late 90s and early 00s, and since I was too young to enjoy the golden days of the VHS cassette format of the 80s and most of the 90s and when I began to grow a rather "respectable" portion of a VHS liberary around 2001-02 I had to realize that it was a format which was soon gonna be viped out by the rising DVD format. By 2005 I had re-purchased almost every single VHS film onto DVD, which put me back a lot when it come to money, that and the whole bullshit region 1, region 2, region 3 and 4 and 5 which meant I had to buy different sets of DVD players, and when I finally around 2006-07 had gotten a very big movie collection, the news of the Blu-ray was soon to arrive and I remember the ridiculous "hysteria" that some movie "experts" tried to stir upon people saying they could never again watch a film on VHS or DVD, because of the Blu-rays and that any "real" movie lover should be throwing their old DVDs and VHS tapes straight into the garbage and go out, re-buy all their favorite films onto this new holy than holier format. And of course, that was never gonna happen in my case. But I do know that many actually did such a thing, where they threw away hundreds maybe thousands of movies only because they had to have the latest thing, and now it seems like some of them are doing the same all over with Blu-rays.
I only buy a Blu-ray copy every now and then, either because I cannot find it any longer on DVD but still in most cases it usually means a double or even tripple dip of a film I already own several times before on VHS or DVD, but I rarely bother to watch the Blu-ray version, instead I throw away the godawful blu-ray cover (I have always loathed the Blu-ray covers as they look terrible standing next to my VHS and DVDs) and the "updated" artwork is often so cheap and lazy looking it is a crime against the original artwork, but of course it is what is inside that counts and all that. At the end of the day, I guess I have just not much of a big interest in re-buying thousands upon thousands of films to another format all over again.
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Post by Jedan Archer on Feb 14, 2018 12:42:05 GMT
Not failure, but DVD to BR was only a very small step compared to the giant leap VHS to DVD. It's like th3 step from a bike to a car, while the other equals steping up from fancy middle class car to luxury race car.
I still remember as a kid DVD seemed like magic with their slick design and cool main menu and special features (including easter eggs) and the option to watch a film undubbed/in other languages or with audio commentary.
Whats the difference between DVD and BR in this regard, a higher resolution that visibly matters mostly in the menue section? Anal graphic-whores' territory rather than mainstrem consumers' - DVD is still good enough.
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