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Post by The Herald Erjen on Feb 13, 2018 18:53:31 GMT
.....that the future is here. It isn't cyberpunk sci-fi any longer. Enjoy. The microchips and the gadgets to implant them are waiting in their sealed packages. Thousands of them to be sure, and millions more are on the way. It may take a while but they will be used eventually. Will one of them be used on you? This has been a public service announcement from your friendly neighborhood Erjen.
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Post by johnblutarsky on Feb 13, 2018 18:59:06 GMT
My dog has a microchip.
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Post by gadreel on Feb 13, 2018 19:03:33 GMT
the only reminder this gives me is that erjen will not change.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Feb 13, 2018 19:04:53 GMT
Super. Now you can be like your dog and have a microchip too. Isn't that great?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Feb 13, 2018 19:06:33 GMT
the only reminder this gives me is that erjen will not change. Thought you had me on ignore. And when it comes to this, no, I will not change. Flexible on some issues, but not this one.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 19:08:56 GMT
Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 19:27:25 GMT
I think that concerns about people being forced to be microchipped for surveillance purposes are more than plausible, unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 20:39:47 GMT
Super. Now you can be like your dog and have a microchip too. Isn't that great? Is it not? I have no particular desire to have a chip implanted in my body. But I can see advantages - a wallet and phone that you can't misplace? Sounds like a good idea to me. What's the downside, really?
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Post by johnblutarsky on Feb 13, 2018 21:11:41 GMT
Super. Now you can be like your dog and have a microchip too. Isn't that great? Super duper.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Feb 13, 2018 21:16:06 GMT
I think that concerns about people being forced to be microchipped for surveillance purposes are more than plausible, unfortunately. People already carry around little surveillance devices containing a microphone and camera.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 21:46:13 GMT
So is the basis of the fear that the Big Book O Magic says that you have to have "a mark" and that "a mark" has been translated into "a microchip" and this therefore means the end of the world is coming?
Because the end of the world isn't likely to come anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 21:57:19 GMT
I think that concerns about people being forced to be microchipped for surveillance purposes are more than plausible, unfortunately. People already carry around little surveillance devices containing a microphone and camera. Which can be thrown in the trash, or, smashed into pieces with a hammer like HC's team did. A chip presents a completely different logistical problem. One that has never been faced on planet earth.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 22:59:11 GMT
Super. Now you can be like your dog and have a microchip too. Isn't that great? Is it not? I have no particular desire to have a chip implanted in my body. But I can see advantages - a wallet and phone that you can't misplace? Sounds like a good idea to me. What's the downside, really? The downside is 24/7 GPS and biological surveillance by the government, and we never know what nefarious agenda this data may be used to serve.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 23:00:12 GMT
Is it not? I have no particular desire to have a chip implanted in my body. But I can see advantages - a wallet and phone that you can't misplace? Sounds like a good idea to me. What's the downside, really? The downside is 24/7 GPS and biological surveillance by the government Is anyone suggesting this? Such as?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 23:01:27 GMT
I think that concerns about people being forced to be microchipped for surveillance purposes are more than plausible, unfortunately. People already carry around little surveillance devices containing a microphone and camera. You can evade that surveillance by not carrying the device, and it also does not yet have the ability for biological surveillance.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 23:06:23 GMT
The downside is 24/7 GPS and biological surveillance by the government Is anyone suggesting this? Such as? If the government can obtain the data and can process the data (with powerful computers), then it is going to use the data if it perceives a use for it. And there are many nefarious agendas to which the data could be put that we have yet to envisage. We already know about the NSA spying on people's emails, so I can't understand why you'd be so incredulous about the prospect of them wanting to use data harvested from a chip that is implanted in your body. In my personal case, I would be concerned that I would not be able to commit suicide because the chip would be able to detect this via changes to my vital signs, and summon the authorities to my whereabouts in an instant.
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Post by goz on Feb 14, 2018 1:23:23 GMT
Super. Now you can be like your dog and have a microchip too. Isn't that great? Is it not? I have no particular desire to have a chip implanted in my body. But I can see advantages - a wallet and phone that you can't misplace? Sounds like a good idea to me. What's the downside, really? I see some great advantages, particularly in the field of law enforcement. If you are not doing anything illegal, you have nothing to fear. I foresee different types, those that are miniature mobile phones and other aids which are either temporary or not actually under the skin and those for criminals which would require surgery to remove.
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Post by general313 on Feb 14, 2018 1:41:32 GMT
Given how power hungry smartphones are, I can't see an implant being practical for remote surveillance any time soon. It would have to be charged constantly with a wireless charger. Something more like RFID could work, but that requires very close range detection.
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Post by johnblutarsky on Feb 14, 2018 1:53:51 GMT
People already carry around little surveillance devices containing a microphone and camera. Which can be thrown in the trash, or, smashed into pieces with a hammer like HC's team did. A chip presents a completely different logistical problem. One that has never been faced on planet earth. Yeah. Go up to a stranger and ask if he/she is willing to throw their phone in the trash or smash it with a hammer. Report back to us with your findings. i can smash my TV, car and/or my dog to bits.....but just because I can, doesn’t mean I’m likely to do it. Our dependence/addiction to our mobile devices is one we never faced before on planet Earth.
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Post by goz on Feb 14, 2018 1:58:05 GMT
Given how power hungry smartphones are, I can't see an implant being practical for remote surveillance any time soon. It would have to be charged constantly with a wireless charger. Something more like RFID could work, but that requires very close range detection. Yes, (and I am no expert on this) butt an implantable device would not need all the bells and whistles that a smart phone requires that are so power hungry.
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