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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 15, 2018 22:09:07 GMT
Full disclosure: when the Joker movie was first announced, I definitively thought that it was a terrible idea that would never work. With that being said, as I’ve come to reflect more and more on it, I’m beginning to think that maybe it potentially could make for something unique and interesting.
I still don’t think I’d call it a good idea, but I suppose that if Sony is allowed to make an R-rated Venom movie, WB might as well be allowed to make a Joker standalone movie that (I assume) is also going to be rated R.
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Post by dnno1 on Feb 15, 2018 22:22:41 GMT
Full disclosure: when the Joker movie was first announced, I definitively thought that it was a terrible idea that would never work. With that being said, as I’ve come to reflect more and more on it, I’m beginning to think that maybe it potentially could make for something unique and interesting. I still don’t think I’d call it a good idea, but I suppose that if Sony is allowed to make an R-rated Venom movie, WB might as well be allowed to make a Joker standalone movie that (I assume) is also going to be rated R. If there is demand for an IP, it's not a bad idea to cater to that market.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 15, 2018 22:28:52 GMT
Full disclosure: when the Joker movie was first announced, I definitively thought that it was a terrible idea that would never work. With that being said, as I’ve come to reflect more and more on it, I’m beginning to think that maybe it potentially could make for something unique and interesting. I still don’t think I’d call it a good idea, but I suppose that if Sony is allowed to make an R-rated Venom movie, WB might as well be allowed to make a Joker standalone movie that (I assume) is also going to be rated R. If there is demand for an IP, it's not a bad idea to cater to that market. There is no demand...
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 15, 2018 22:55:32 GMT
So, is no one going to vote in the poll?
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Post by dazz on Feb 15, 2018 23:09:54 GMT
I don't care DC/WB is so disorganised with their shit I kind of go meh in regards to any "projects in development" that don't have anything substantial going for them, I mean oh wow Joaquin Pheonix maybe wants to play Joker gee golly wow...DC has had The Rock on contract for a flick for years and still nothing, the film we all assumed he would be involved in is only now filming and he isn't even a part of it, so yeah at this point IDGAF.
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Post by thenewnexus on Feb 15, 2018 23:16:56 GMT
If its a mature movie I think its a great idea
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 16, 2018 1:27:03 GMT
Meh. I only care about Wonder Woman at this point.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Feb 16, 2018 4:12:42 GMT
Are we talking about the Martin Scorsese one? I'd vote that "It could be unique and interesting" based purely on his involvement, but otherwise call it a terrible idea. Taking a completely insane and evil character, one who works better the less you know about him as a matter of fact, and making him the lead is very stupid. And as with the Venom movie, making a film about a villain without their main enemy just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 4:14:05 GMT
If Martin Scorsese is involved I'm all in.
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Post by James on Feb 16, 2018 4:17:16 GMT
Could go either way. I actually never heard about this, believe it or not.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 16, 2018 12:46:31 GMT
Well, I'm pretty sure the real reason this is happening standalone is because Scorcese just didn't want to be associated with a larger universe and just tell his own story independent of all that. So this film will have nothing to do with the greater DCEU at all...but no one at DC was willing to ask him to reconsider and try to fit it in.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 16, 2018 21:22:17 GMT
It's not what I'd focus on right now with DC films but I am admittedly curious.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 17, 2018 17:51:54 GMT
I suppose I’ll just say right now that one thing I’m curious about above all else is in terms of exactly how much the money the movie can be expected to make. Is a Joker movie without Batman viable from a financial point of view? I guess we’ll have to wait until Venom is released in order to get a better idea.
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Post by northernlad on Feb 17, 2018 18:26:29 GMT
It's a terrible idea.
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Post by brownstones on Feb 17, 2018 18:43:45 GMT
I wouldn't say it's a bad idea, because I would simply like to see what they do with it.......however it's unnecessary, especially if they're going with another 40 something to play him, why not just hire a younger actor.... If it's a joker origin.... then fucking go younger.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 17, 2018 21:42:10 GMT
Could go either way.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 17, 2018 22:35:03 GMT
I wouldn't say it's a bad idea, because I would simply like to see what they do with it.......however it's unnecessary, especially if they're going with another 40 something to play him, why not just hire a younger actor.... If it's a joker origin.... then fucking go younger. In all fairness, Jack Nicholson was in his 50s when he played the Joker, and the Tim Burton Batman film was essentially a Joker origin story anyway.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2018 1:47:41 GMT
I wouldn't say it's a bad idea, because I would simply like to see what they do with it.......however it's unnecessary, especially if they're going with another 40 something to play him, why not just hire a younger actor.... If it's a joker origin.... then fucking go younger. In all fairness, Jack Nicholson was in his 50s when he played the Joker, and the Tim Burton Batman film was essentially a Joker origin story anyway. He was a controversial choice when he was first announced as Joker for that reason, actually.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 18, 2018 2:46:10 GMT
It's a flawed idea. The less you know about the Joker, the better. Creating a canonical pre-history would significantly detract from the character's overall mystique. In turn, if the movie is treated as the musings of an unreliable narrator, it becomes ultimately pointless.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 18, 2018 4:57:56 GMT
In all fairness, Jack Nicholson was in his 50s when he played the Joker, and the Tim Burton Batman film was essentially a Joker origin story anyway. He was a controversial choice when he was first announced as Joker for that reason, actually. I’m pretty sure Michael Keaton was the controversial one.
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