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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 18, 2018 16:19:54 GMT
If Nolan made an X-Men movie, I bet many of you would complain about it.
Christopher Nolan is a unappreciated genius who gave us one of the best trilogies and THE best comic book movie of all time.
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 18, 2018 16:31:32 GMT
1. Disney treats X-Men as a pocket universe and limit cross overs with other marvel characters 2. Keep the grounded nature of the X-Men movies 3. Should new mutants succeed, the series should be allowed to continue as a horror series 4. Adapt the serious tone of the x-men movies (no xmen movie should be comedy)5. more r rated movies beyond Deadpool and hard pg 13 movies (X2, DOFP, X-Men) 6. Hire a person like Nolan , George Miller, Matt Reeves, Alfonso Cuarón to direct X-Men movies, even if it means begging and giving them full creative freedom.7. Does not use the MCU cinematography 8. Use more practical and realistic effects and not cartoonish visual effects like what we see in GOTG and Avengers. 9. Deeper story telling and less action moments and No major heavy cgi driven 3rd arc. 10. X-Men classic stories such as Second Coming, X-Cutioner's Song, The Brood, Inferno, The Mutant Massacre, Age of X are not dumbed down just to appeal to children or my worst fear, turned into comedy. what are the chances all of these will happen. this is the only way I will ever give mcu xmen a chance or like mcu xmen movies. So you basically don't want the X-men franchise to be as successful as the MCU then?
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Post by hobowar on Feb 18, 2018 17:06:08 GMT
I'd also like it if characters didn't drop f-bombs every two seconds to give off the illusion that it's for "grown ups." Better than childish humour every 2 seconds. Funny. The actual grown ups can't seem to get enough "childish humour," while the simple minded folk seem to only care about making things r rated regardless of character, plot, story or theme.
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Post by hobowar on Feb 18, 2018 17:08:21 GMT
2. Keep the grounded nature of the X-Men movies
This is why every X-Men movie apart from First Class has sucked ass hole juice.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 18, 2018 18:10:47 GMT
I'd say the odds of Disney getting Fox have fallen a great deal. Now that Comcast is a contender. The Fox Boss said they'd rather sell to Disney, even with Comcast offering.
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Post by charzhino on Feb 18, 2018 18:40:55 GMT
Better than childish humour every 2 seconds. Funny. The simple minded folk can't seem to get enough "childish humour," while the mature adults seem to only care about making things intelligent. Fixed.
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Post by scabab on Feb 18, 2018 18:53:26 GMT
I'd hope it would keep a similar tone to the other X-men movies. I'd rather it not become overly light hearted and comedic like the others.
We already have Guardians of the Galaxy. Now Thor looks like it's going to go more the comedic route and Spider-man was always fairly light hearted to begin with. Ant-man kinda has to be a bit light hearted because it's hard to take him seriously anyway.
That only leaves Captain America and Black Panther as being a bit more serious.
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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 18, 2018 19:41:29 GMT
I agree with most of that except no 1. Non Mutants have long been involved in X-Men comics. Sure, the films should be concerned with mutants but it’s still a world inside the MCU. MCU characters still exist there.
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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 18, 2018 19:43:19 GMT
If Nolan made an X-Men movie, I bet many of you would complain about it. Christopher Nolan is a unappreciated genius who gave us one of the best trilogies and THE best comic book movie of all time. He really dropped the ball with TDKR so I can’t accept it as a great trilogy. TDK was excellent though.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 19, 2018 15:43:29 GMT
#4, no comedies. Not even Deadpool?
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 19, 2018 17:59:59 GMT
#4, no comedies. Not even Deadpool? Oh but Deadpool is an exception, or its "serious" compared to the MCU in some strange way.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 19, 2018 18:08:43 GMT
Considering Black Panther is more serious, deeper, and more complex than every X-Men movie to date( besides Logan which only gets a point higher because its rated R and could go that extra mile in content) I think it's safe to say that the property will be in good hands with the company that birthed them than who adopted them(Fox). I eagerly await to see Wolverine be part of the Avengers and for Kitty Pryde to begin dating Star Lord...
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Post by charzhino on Feb 19, 2018 18:35:34 GMT
Considering Black Panther is more serious, deeper, and more complex than every X-Men movie to date Na, if Black Panther was in the XCU, it would be a middle of the pack movie in terms of its drama and thematic value.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 19, 2018 18:52:34 GMT
Considering Black Panther is more serious, deeper, and more complex than every X-Men movie to date Na, if Black Panther was in the XCU, it would be a middle of the pack movie in terms of its drama and thematic value. Duh, no Holocaust references.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 19, 2018 19:08:37 GMT
Considering Black Panther is more serious, deeper, and more complex than every X-Men movie to date( besides Logan which only gets a point higher because its rated R and could go that extra mile in content) I think it's safe to say that the property will be in good hands with the company that birthed them than who adopted them(Fox). I eagerly await to see Wolverine be part of the Avengers and for Kitty Pryde to begin dating Star Lord... Black Panther was 85% serious. X-Men is 99% serious. Black Panther still had some of the MCU jokes. Black Panther is not as complex as the X-Men movies, but they did try and I praise the effort but as I said, the movie was more Thor 1 than X-Men. It is not safe to say xmen is in good hands, see what black panther had on its side is that it was a black heritage movie and disney could not disrespect that or make it a joke. they had to make it more serious. there was no other choice. xmen for all their themes, drama, complexity and depth have more white characters so disney can easily dismiss that to make it more comedy. Wolverine should not be part of the Avengers and Kitty should not be with star lord, things like this is what ruined marvel comics.
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 19, 2018 19:11:31 GMT
Considering Black Panther is more serious, deeper, and more complex than every X-Men movie to date( besides Logan which only gets a point higher because its rated R and could go that extra mile in content) I think it's safe to say that the property will be in good hands with the company that birthed them than who adopted them(Fox). I eagerly await to see Wolverine be part of the Avengers and for Kitty Pryde to begin dating Star Lord... Black Panther was 85% serious. X-Men is 99% pretentious. Fixed. Which is good, because life has levity no matter what. They didn't need to bring up the Holocaust, so that makes it MORE complex than X-Men. If by good, you mean "Ashamed". Have been treated shabbily by Fox. Yeah, he'd be too overshadowed by REAL heroes. He's a better love interest than anyone else she's had.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 19, 2018 20:10:40 GMT
Considering Black Panther is more serious, deeper, and more complex than every X-Men movie to date( besides Logan which only gets a point higher because its rated R and could go that extra mile in content) I think it's safe to say that the property will be in good hands with the company that birthed them than who adopted them(Fox). I eagerly await to see Wolverine be part of the Avengers and for Kitty Pryde to begin dating Star Lord... Black Panther was 85% serious. X-Men is 99% serious. Black Panther still had some of the MCU jokes. Black Panther is not as complex as the X-Men movies, but they did try and I praise the effort but as I said, the movie was more Thor 1 than X-Men. It is not safe to say xmen is in good hands, see what black panther had on its side is that it was a black heritage movie and disney could not disrespect that or make it joke. that had to make it more serious. there was no other choice. xmen for all their themes, drama, complexity and depth have more white characters so disney can easily dismiss that to make it more comedy. Wolverine should not be part of the Avengers and Kitty should not be with star lord, things like this is what ruined marvel comics. In your own fairy tale world perhaps, but in reality Black Panther is just as if not more mature than most X-Men movies released thus far and unlike them was willing to embrace its comic book roots instead of trying to be gritty and grounded. The jokes in Black Panther are more sophisticated and actually move the plot forward, unlike, say, Toad's random dance number in X-1 or Mystique trying to seduce and get it on with Wolverine in X-2, or hell practically everything in The Last Stand or all of X-Men Origins: Wolverine ( That boxing match with Blob, like a rejected skit from the Austin Powers movies).
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 19, 2018 20:12:16 GMT
Considering Black Panther is more serious, deeper, and more complex than every X-Men movie to date Na, if Black Panther was in the XCU, it would be a middle of the pack movie in terms of its drama and thematic value. If it was in the XCU Wakanda would be the least visually appealing place to be seen with nothing to be wowed by on a technical level with a black and white outlook on life.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 20:13:43 GMT
ROFL those are a lot of demands...fox didnt even get those directors until, never. Even they have fumbled some of their x-men films, apocalypse and x-men 3. I do agree that most of the x-men films should be serious, I bet there are some weird x-men comics though. As for crossovers, everything points to Disney handling this well.
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Post by ThatGuy on Feb 19, 2018 20:47:33 GMT
1. Disney treats X-Men as a pocket universe and limit cross overs with other marvel characters 2. Keep the grounded nature of the X-Men movies 3. Should new mutants succeed, the series should be allowed to continue as a horror series 4. Adapt the serious tone of the x-men movies ( no xmen movie should be comedy) 5. more r rated movies beyond Deadpool and hard pg 13 movies (X2, DOFP, X-Men) 6. Hire a person like Nolan , George Miller, Matt Reeves, Alfonso Cuarón to direct X-Men movies, even if it means begging and giving them full creative freedom. 7. Does not use the MCU cinematography 8. Use more practical and realistic effects and not cartoonish visual effects like what we see in GOTG and Avengers. 9. Deeper story telling and less action moment and No major heavy cgi driven 3rd arc. 10. X-Men classic stories such as Second Coming, X-Cutioner's Song, The Brood, Inferno, The Mutant Massacre, Age of X are not dumb down just to appeal to children or my worst fear, turned into comedy. what are the chances all of these will happen. this is the only way I will ever give mcu xmen a chance or like mcu xmen movies. There's no chance of #6 happening. MCU Dictator Kevin Feige runs a tight ship and nobody gets creative freedom at MCU. Patty Jenkins tried to get more creative freedom for Thor 2 and MCU Dictator Kevin Feige fired her for that.
Not much of a chance of #4 or #10 happening either. The MCU formula is all about comedy.
Just like how they wanted Snyder out after BvS? Just like how Suicide Squad was changed from what the director wanted? Just like how Snyder was made to add Batman to the MoS sequel? Just like how Afleck left directing the Batman movie because he had so much creative freedom? Just like how Sony was forcing Raimi to add Venom in Spider-man 3 when he didn't want to? Just like how the each director of the Flash keeps stepping down? Just like how Rothman was one of 2 people that screwed up the X-men movies before they got rid of him? Etc. etc. etc. Yeah, Feige is so different from the other execs from the other studios.
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