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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 19, 2018 1:54:16 GMT
You're a liberal ain't ya? I’m Left-leaning I guess, but I haven’t seen anyone on this entire site who has accused other people of being sexist for not liking TLJ. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 2:31:18 GMT
You're a liberal ain't ya? I’m Left-leaning I guess, but I haven’t seen anyone on this entire site who has accused other people of being sexist for not liking TLJ. Is it my fault you didn't see it? Maybe you should spend more time on the SW boards then. I don't see you on there very often, which would explain why you haven't seen it. |
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Post by ryboto on Feb 19, 2018 13:45:38 GMT
yea, it's definitely happened.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 14:52:52 GMT
yea, it's definitely happened. Ryboto here has been accused of such tactics also, I believe. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 19, 2018 17:41:49 GMT
I’m Left-leaning I guess, but I haven’t seen anyone on this entire site who has accused other people of being sexist for not liking TLJ. Is it my fault you didn't see it? Maybe you should spend more time on the SW boards then. I don't see you on there very often, which would explain why you haven't seen it. Complaining about Star Wars movies is pretty common over here. I’ve seen more people complaining about being accused of misogyny, than I’ve seen actual accusations of misogyny. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen at all, but it sounds like you’re blowing it out of proportion. In any case, JJ Abrams was referring specifically to the people who take issue with a female lead on principle, not the people who take issue with Rey for other reasons. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 17:49:15 GMT
Is it my fault you didn't see it? Maybe you should spend more time on the SW boards then. I don't see you on there very often, which would explain why you haven't seen it. Complaining about Star Wars movies is pretty common over here. I’ve seen more people complaining about being accused of misogyny, than I’ve seen actual accusations of misogyny. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen at all, but it sounds like you’re blowing it out of proportion. In any case, JJ Abrams was referring specifically to the people who take issue with a female lead on principle, not the people who take issue with Rey for other reasons. And like I said, most of us can read between the lines. What JJ is really saying is that the movies and the characters are so good, that if there's a large audience swath who vehemently didn't like them, it can be explained away by their racism and sexism. It's nothing more than his hubris not being able to accept that a lot of SW fans feel like he and RJ disrespected the franchise's lore and also overly politicized it to the ruin of the plots. And I say this from the perspective of someone who used to be a complete TFA and Rey slappy. |
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 19, 2018 18:03:37 GMT
Complaining about Star Wars movies is pretty common over here. I’ve seen more people complaining about being accused of misogyny, than I’ve seen actual accusations of misogyny. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen at all, but it sounds like you’re blowing it out of proportion. In any case, JJ Abrams was referring specifically to the people who take issue with a female lead on principle, not the people who take issue with Rey for other reasons. And like I said, most of us can read between the lines. What JJ is really saying is that the movies and the characters are so good, that if there's a large audience swath who vehemently didn't like them, it can be explained away by their racism and sexism. It's nothing more than his hubris not being able to accept that a lot of SW fans feel like he and RJ disrespected the franchise's lore and also overly politicized it to the ruin of the plots. And I say this from the perspective of someone who used to be a complete TFA and Rey slappy. Well said. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 19, 2018 18:33:06 GMT
Complaining about Star Wars movies is pretty common over here. I’ve seen more people complaining about being accused of misogyny, than I’ve seen actual accusations of misogyny. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen at all, but it sounds like you’re blowing it out of proportion. In any case, JJ Abrams was referring specifically to the people who take issue with a female lead on principle, not the people who take issue with Rey for other reasons. And like I said, most of us can read between the lines. What JJ is really saying is that the movies and the characters are so good, that if there's a large audience swath who vehemently didn't like them, it can be explained away by their racism and sexism. It's nothing more than his hubris not being able to accept that a lot of SW fans feel like he and RJ disrespected the franchise's lore and also overly politicized it to the ruin of the plots. And I say this from the perspective of someone who used to be a complete TFA and Rey slappy. You call it reading between the lines but I call it looking too deeply into something in order to find a reason to be mad. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 19:50:17 GMT
And like I said, most of us can read between the lines. What JJ is really saying is that the movies and the characters are so good, that if there's a large audience swath who vehemently didn't like them, it can be explained away by their racism and sexism. It's nothing more than his hubris not being able to accept that a lot of SW fans feel like he and RJ disrespected the franchise's lore and also overly politicized it to the ruin of the plots. And I say this from the perspective of someone who used to be a complete TFA and Rey slappy. You call it reading between the lines but I call it looking too deeply into something in order to find a reason to be mad. That's interesting, because that's what JJ is doing. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 19, 2018 20:13:00 GMT
You call it reading between the lines but I call it looking too deeply into something in order to find a reason to be mad. That's interesting, because that's what JJ is doing. Maybe, but neither of us have anyway of knowing that for sure. |
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Post by shinnickneth on Feb 19, 2018 21:21:14 GMT
He's right, and if don't like it, stop giving disney money Well, Star Wars toy sales are down. Episode 8 bombed and was pulled from theaters after only 2 weeks. There hasn't been another movie to apply the "stop giving Disney money" idea yet, but we'll see if people do.  |
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Post by darkpast on Feb 19, 2018 21:41:19 GMT
He's right, and if don't like it, stop giving disney money Well, Star Wars toy sales are down. Episode 8 bombed and was pulled from theaters after only 2 weeks. There hasn't been another movie to apply the "stop giving Disney money" idea yet, but we'll see if people do. It bombed in China, and had big drop overall, but not a bomb at 1.3 billion |
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Post by shinnickneth on Feb 19, 2018 21:41:35 GMT
And I say this from the perspective of someone who used to be a complete TFA and Rey slappy. Rian really did screw it all up, huh? Not only did he disrespect the original characters, but he gutted everything established in Episode 7. It felt like when you play that grade school game as a kid where everyone in your class adds a few words to a "never ending" story...there's always that one kid who doesn't play along with the story started/continued by everyone else. That kid is Rian Johnson.  I was the same way: I enjoyed the new trio of characters. However, Rian turned Poe into a horrible, treasonous soldier who leads a mutiny and undermines the whole cause of The Resistance. Finn is reduced into a generic storyline involving riding CGI animals and a poorly developed relationship with the chunky Asian girl (who has to be one of the most superfluous characters I've ever witnessed in a movie). I honestly can't even remember the girl's name. While they built Rey up to be a character of importance in Episode 7, we now find out she's no one of any importance. Not at all. Not only is she not related to anyone (I was actually OK with that part), but she also has no history connected to anything involving the ongoing "arch" of trilogy. Considering how Han treated her by taking her under his wing, and Leia hugged her after Han died, I thought the girl would turn out to have some importance other than what we got. In the words of Obi-Wan Kenobi, "I was wrong." |
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Post by shinnickneth on Feb 19, 2018 21:44:32 GMT
Well, Star Wars toy sales are down. Episode 8 bombed and was pulled from theaters after only 2 weeks. There hasn't been another movie to apply the "stop giving Disney money" idea yet, but we'll see if people do. It bombed in China, and had big drop overall, but not a bomb at 1.3 billion Disney yanked it from theaters after only 2 weeks because it wasn't making enough money. That's a bomb. It definitely isn't a bomb worldwide, but it was in China. |
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Post by darkpast on Feb 19, 2018 21:47:44 GMT
It bombed in China, and had big drop overall, but not a bomb at 1.3 billion Disney yanked it from theaters after only 2 weeks because it wasn't making enough money. That's a bomb. It definitely isn't a bomb worldwide, but it was in China. Disney didn't yank shit, theater owners got rid of it as fast as they could, even in the US they replaced it with Jumanji after being forced to keep it for 4 weeks |
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Post by shinnickneth on Feb 19, 2018 22:27:51 GMT
Disney didn't yank shit, theater owners got rid of it as fast as they could, even in the US they replaced it with Jumanji after being forced to keep it for 4 weeks Ok. Fair enough. I'll amend my response: Chinese theaters pulled it from there because it wasn't earning enough money. It still bombed though. Jimmy Wu, chairman of nationwide Chinese cinema chain Lumiere Pavilions, told THR: ^ This happening doesn't mean it "proves" The Last Jedi is a terrible movie (you seem a little defensive). My original reply to you was just to establish that there is a trend of people not being so gaga with the movie (Episode 8) and withholding their funds. Whether this will continue with future Star Wars movies has yet to be determined. There's also declining toy sales that show franchise fatigue. We'll see what happens with Solo.. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 15:46:48 GMT
Disney didn't yank shit, theater owners got rid of it as fast as they could, even in the US they replaced it with Jumanji after being forced to keep it for 4 weeks Ok. Fair enough. I'll amend my response: Chinese theaters pulled it from there because it wasn't earning enough money. It still bombed though. Jimmy Wu, chairman of nationwide Chinese cinema chain Lumiere Pavilions, told THR: ^ This happening doesn't mean it "proves" The Last Jedi is a terrible movie (you seem a little defensive). My original reply to you was just to establish that there is a trend of people not being so gaga with the movie (Episode 8) and withholding their funds. Whether this will continue with future Star Wars movies has yet to be determined. There's also declining toy sales that show franchise fatigue. We'll see what happens with Solo.. We know what's going to happen with Solo. It will be fortunate to draw $700 million worldwide. |
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