Best Picture winners since 2000 - agree or disagree?

you make an intelligent thread, but i cannot take seriously anyone who thinks Dark Knight and Skyfall were the best film(s) of their respective year(s)...

Given the way the topic is worded i might as well just list my #1 movie in each year instead simply because that's pretty much what the topic is saying (NOTE: i put those below in bold text where my #1 movie of that year matches the 'Best Picture winner' of that year)...

2000 - Gladiator
2001 - Training Day
2002 - Road to Perdition
2003 - Open Range
2004 - The Aviator (The Butterfly Effect)
2005 - Lord of War
2006 - Casino Royale
2007 - No Country for Old Men
2008 - Gran Torino
2009 - Up in the Air

2010 - The American
2011 - Source Code
2012 - Skyfall
2013 - Before Midnight (At Middleton(which is what my avatar picture on the left is from ))
2014 - Men, Women & Children
2015 - Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation (Spectre)
2016 - The Magnificent Seven (this needs a re-watch as i have only seen it once so far and need to make sure it holds up)


NOTE: if there is any movies that score the same as my #1 choice in the given years above they will be listed next to my #1 choices above.

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to add some additional info to make the topic a bit more interesting...

here is my favorite movie of each year strictly choosing from the BEST PICTURE NOMINEE's ONLY! (NOTE: i am only going to list the years i score at least one movie from the respective year a 7/10 or higher amongst the best picture nominee's)...

2000 - Gladiator
2002 - Gangs of New York
2004 - The Aviator
2005 - Munich
2006 - The Departed
2007 - No Country for Old Men
2009 - Up in the Air

2010 - True Grit
2011 - The Descendants
2012 - Django Unchained
2013 - Captain Phillips (Nebraska/The Wolf of Wall Street)

so in other words... 2001/2003/2008/2014/2015/2016 are weak years amongst the best picture nominee's as none of those years have a single movie amongst the nominee's i scored a 7 or higher.

NOTE: if there is any movies that score the same as my #1 choice in the given years above they will be listed next to my #1 choices above.

NOTE: i have not seen all of the best picture nominee's from 2000 to date but i have seen enough to the point i would be surprised if anything changed above.


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dfordiamondz



I definitely disagree with you on Skyfall as that movie is within my Top 29 movies in general. in fact, Skyfall is my #1 James Bond movie.

but i do think The Dark Knight is quite overrated as even though i used to think it was top notch i only mildly like it now. still, it seems amongst the super hero genre this is THE movie that gets the most praise (especially using IMDb for a measuring stick). but i think main reason i only mildly like this is that the super hero genre in general no longer interests me to any high degree so it's not just this movie as everything i have seen in that genre does not score higher than a 6-6.5/10 for me anymore.

2000 Memento
2001 Lost and Delirious
2002 The Bourne Identity
2003 Kill Bill: Vol. 1
2004 Million Dollar Baby
2005 Batman Begins
2006 The Departed
2007 Gone Baby Gone
2008 Let the Right One In
2009 Avatar
2010 Shutter Island
2011 The Help
2012 The Dark Knight Rises
2013 The Wolf of Wall Street
2014 Interstellar
2015 The Revenant
2016 Fences

2000: Gladiator 
2001: The Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Rings
2002: Gangs of New York
2003: Lost in Translation
2004: Million Dollar Baby 
2005: Walk the Line
2006: The Departed 
2007: The Assasination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
2008: The Reader
2009: The Hurt Locker 
2010: Inception
2011: Midnight in Paris
2012: Argo  
2013: The Wolf of Wallstreet
2014: Birdman 
2015: The Revenant
2016: Hacksaw Ridge or Manchester by the Sea, I need to see them both one more time.

Read more: imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/8870/best-picture-winners-agree-disagree#ixzz4b193FbMx

Return of the King was the sloppiest of the three LOTRs and I'm not just saying that because I read the book. They cut Christopher Lee's exit to squeeze in more fight scenes and even he didn't know until the premiere, if I remember correctly. It didn't deserve to win on its own. It only won because the previous two entries lost.

Master and Commander was better at least. Haven't watched the other nominees.

Gladiator - Agree

A Beautiful Mind - Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring

Chicago - The Pianist

LOTR: Return of the King - Agree

Million Dollar Baby - Spider-Man 2

Crash - King Kong

The Departed - Children of Men

No Country for Old Men - Agree

Slumdog Millionaire - The Dark Knight

The Hurt Locker - Up

The King's Speech - The Social Network

The Artist - Midnight in Paris

Argo - Lincoln

12 Years a Slave - Agree

Birdman - The Grand Budapest Hotel

Spotlight - Mad Max: Fury Road

Moonlight - Hacksaw Ridge

The Shape of Water - The Lost City of Z

Green Book - Spider-Man: Into the Spider-verse

Parasite - Agree

i enjoyed them too, but they're trash and by no means best picture material...

jeffersoncody



I can't tell if this is sarcasm or legit. but ill just give you the benefit of the doubt for the moment



also, since i was giving my opinion on those movies you asked me about then there is no right or wrong answer since it ultimately comes back to personal opinion. so it's possible i could be right (or wrong) on what i said about those movies, it just depends on who you talk to whether they would agree with me or not.

but i guess if you want to attempt to measure movies, on some level of standard, in what's good and what's not i would think the best way to judge something is public popularity along with how much $$$ they made and especially something that has wide appeal amongst a wider range of age groups and maybe what's been viewed a lot on TV etc. i am sure you get the gist

with that said... i know that still don't say anything definitive since sometimes our own personal opinions are for or against the majority etc, but it's probably the best one can do to judge a movies worth/quality since i would imagine majority opinion, given all of that criteria, tends to speak the loudest on a movies worth.


dfordiamondz



You give too much weight to 'best picture' nominee's. the vast majority if the best/most enjoyable movies out there are NOT best picture nominee's as they only nominate quality movies here and there as the vast majority, if not a high percentage, of best picture nominee's are nothing special in my mind. i am sure i can't be the only person who feels this way and i would assume the majority of people would agree with me in that most of the most enjoyable movies out there are NOT best picture nominee's even though they do sometimes have some quality movies that are nominated.

just looking at the hard numbers for me... from what i have seen of the best picture nominee's over the years there are only 29 best picture nominee's i gave a 7/10 or higher and there is 199 movies in general i gave a 7 or higher (which are what i consider my favorite movies) which means that only 14.6% of my favorite movies are made up of best picture nominee's. granted, i have not seen all of the best picture nominee's but i doubt that number would change much if at all had i seen all of the best picture nominee's.

also, something that's enjoyable cannot be trash(trash, as in a negative thing) in my mind.

with that said... you can generally tell certain types of movies won't be best picture material for the academy but they tend to be a bit more political in their choices (at least a good portion of their choices seem to be) where as the masses simply look at what movies they enjoy watching the most and then we pick our favorites accordingly which makes the most sense.