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Post by QueenB on May 2, 2018 22:50:53 GMT
MCDemuth Oddly enough, there’s another road right next to the Mt. Misery one I mentioned, called Sweet Hollow Road, which is also supposed to be haunted—and there’s a bridge, with a very similar story, there! Looks kinda similar, too. Anyhoo, I do find it amusing how similar all these legends are… (That’s why there are folklorists, I suppose.) Hey… that’s what this thread can be for: what are your local ghost stories and folklore? I was born on Long Island, which is filled to the brim with ghost stories, and I now live in Massachusetts, which probably has an equal number… I’m set! How about everyone else? Is this the same folklore you were referring to? If so, I heard the Kings Park Psychiatric Center version of it. patch.com/new-york/huntington/bp--long-islands-legends-and-myths-marys-grave
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Post by Nalkarj on May 2, 2018 23:34:20 GMT
Hey, thanks for chiming in, QueenB . Yes, Kings Park Psych Center does have a lot of legends that have arisen up around it (I remember walking the grounds—it’s a creepy place, but then I’m sure most old asylums are). The ‘Mary’ stories are all over Long Island, for whatever reason, but I hadn’t know there was a variant for Kings Park. Thanks for the link! As for Mt. Misery and Sweet Hollow, there are tons of legends about it: a ghostly policeman with the back of his head shot off, phantom black dogs, cemetery along the side of the road, screams in the night, the whole kit and kaboodle. It’s a neat area. Details here and here. Lots of LI ghost stories… Lake Ronkonkoma and its ghostly Indian maiden, Oyster Bay’s Raynham Hall (named after that other Raynham Hall in England, with its own famous ghost), the Country House Inn in Stony Brook, Fire Island Lighthouse, Montauk Manor… All a lot better than the Amityville House, of course.
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Post by hi224 on May 6, 2018 2:52:13 GMT
thats pretty creepy.
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Post by Nalkarj on May 9, 2018 16:28:11 GMT
Well, it seems that this thread is going over with all the enthusiasm of a load of bricks, but nevertheless I’ll persist! Anyone know anything about local monsters? I mentioned it to politicidal in another thread, but I find it interesting that, while Maryland and New Jersey both have state monsters (the Snallygaster and the Jersey Devil, respectively), Pennsylvania’s left out! Of the Mid-Atlantic states, though, is New York left out too? Champ’s shared with Vermont, the Headless Horseman isn’t genuine folklore, Bigfoots [Bigfeet?] are all over, and what’s left? The Montauk Monster? Is that even known outside Long Island?
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Post by QueenB on May 10, 2018 4:13:16 GMT
Well, it seems that this thread is going over with all the enthusiasm of a load of bricks, but nevertheless I’ll persist! Anyone know anything about local monsters? I mentioned it to politicidal in another thread, but I find it interesting that, while Maryland and New Jersey both have state monsters (the Snallygaster and the Jersey Devil, respectively), Pennsylvania’s left out! Of the Mid-Atlantic states, though, is New York left out too? Champ’s shared with Vermont, the Headless Horseman isn’t genuine folklore, Bigfoots [Bigfeet?] are all over, and what’s left? The Montauk Monster? Is that even known outside Long Island? I found this article on NY myths and monsters. www.newyorkupstate.com/news/2017/02/myths_and_monsters_of_upstate_ny_do_you_believe_in_champ_beamoc_and_other_legend.html
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Post by QueenB on May 10, 2018 4:40:20 GMT
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Post by hi224 on May 11, 2018 22:56:24 GMT
I adore folklore, especially being up here in New England, where the very air is full of spirits (even on an uncharacteristically hot day like this one!). Somewhere around these boards, I offered my own retelling of the Jonathan Moulton story… Anyhoo, just found this blog— newenglandfolklore.blogspot.com/2013/02/black-agnes-statue-that-kills.html—and it’s excellent. The story to which I’ve linked is “Black Agnes,” in Montpelier, Vt., and I found that particularly intriguing: I grew up on Long Island, NY, and near the town of Huntington there’s a supposedly haunted road, appropriately called “Mount Misery Road.” And, wouldn’t y’know, there’s a cemetery on the side of the road, with a Black Agnes statue and identical legend as well. Snopes tells us that several communities have “killing statue” legends, but I find it very curious that they should have the same name! i love you're threads dude, you have some interesting creations.
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Post by MCDemuth on May 11, 2018 23:18:58 GMT
i love you're threads dude, you have some interesting creations. I agree! I know there are many die hard skeptics around here, who couldn't care less... or would prefer to detonate every nuke the Earth has and destroy this board, a million times over... But, I know there is a lot of unexplained phenomenon out there, that science hasn't come close to definitively explaining away, as of yet... and sometimes you just have to wonder if there really is something to all this... And So... I try to be open minded about it all... And I love reading most of these very interesting threads on this board! It gets the imagination going... That's a good thing.... Where would we be as a species, if people didn't wonder, "what if?" Keep them coming!
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Post by Nalkarj on May 11, 2018 23:26:27 GMT
hi224, MCDemuth—hey, thanks, guys. If you happen to have any old folklore stories, I’d love to know them! I love the concepts of the supernatural and the paranormal, and I tend to be open-minded as well, even if I lean more towards skepticism than not. But I do love mystery and magic like that, and I always look forward to posts here.
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Post by hardball on May 24, 2018 12:36:37 GMT
A nice introduction to Philippine lower mythology and folklore hereThis site also has some interesting info on Philippine supernatural creatures. A comparison of the vampire myths from different parts of the world.
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Post by hi224 on May 24, 2018 13:32:19 GMT
Apparently theres a myth in scotland about a man whose shrieks at passerbys.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 8, 2018 20:30:55 GMT
Another great Boston Harbor legend here… Unfortunately, while George’s Island in Boston harbor does have ghost stories and legends (so much so that an early commanding officer had to put out an order that soldiers there couldn’t use “ghosts” as an excuse for leaving their posts), this particular one was made up by local historian Edward Rowe Snow, after many people had asked him if there were a ghost story on George’s Island. Oh well! Great story, though.
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Post by cypher on Sept 12, 2018 16:04:21 GMT
I moved to Cold Spring Harbor a couple of years ago, and have always wondered why Mt. Misery Road was called that. Now I know the supposed origins. Last weekend I was driving to Port Jefferson, and as I turned on to Dark Hollow Road just outside town, my wife suddenly said, "This is ominous..." I wish I had known about Sweet Hollow Road, as I would have responded, "It's not Dark Hollow Road you have to worry about, it's Sweet Hollow Road near us."
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 12, 2018 18:13:38 GMT
Hey, right in my old neck of the woods, cypher ! I love Cold Spring Harbor, spent a lot of time there. There are some Cold Spring Harbor ghost-stories and legends too—the Harbor Mist restaurant is long rumored to be haunted. Story on Patch here—admittedly, it’s written by a “paranormal investigator,” so take it with a rather large grain of salt. And here’s a Cold Spring Harbor ghost story that actually made the New York Times! And some more fun LI stuff here. I’ve driven up and down both Mt. Misery and Sweet Hollow Roads, and, while I felt nothing on Sweet Hollow (or Mt. Misery’s southern half), the northern half of Mt. Misery is fairly ominous, like how your wife described Dark Hollow. Not very developed, with lots of trees that block out the sun. When I got to the end, there was some woman standing there in the driveway, just staring at me. (Could be because she’d gone out to get the mail and was used to, and annoyed at, people going by to go ghost-hunting—but, no, that ruins the illusion!) Nick Kurczewski, who wrote up a piece about Mt. Misery for the Daily News, mentions this too. Fun stuff. One of these days when I head back to Long Island, I’m going to have to go exploring around there again…
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Post by cypher on Sept 13, 2018 11:14:42 GMT
Hey, right in my old neck of the woods, cypher ! I love Cold Spring Harbor, spent a lot of time there. There are some Cold Spring Harbor ghost-stories and legends too—the Harbor Mist restaurant is long rumored to be haunted. Story on Patch here—admittedly, it’s written by a “paranormal investigator,” so take it with a rather large grain of salt. And here’s a Cold Spring Harbor ghost story that actually made the New York Times! And some more fun LI stuff here. I’ve driven up and down both Mt. Misery and Sweet Hollow Roads, and, while I felt nothing on Sweet Hollow (or Mt. Misery’s southern half), the northern half of Mt. Misery is fairly ominous, like how your wife described Dark Hollow. Not very developed, with lots of trees that block out the sun. When I got to the end, there was some woman standing there in the driveway, just staring at me. (Could be because she’d gone out to get the mail and was used to, and annoyed at, people going by to go ghost-hunting—but, no, that ruins the illusion!) Nick Kurczewski, who wrote up a piece about Mt. Misery for the Daily News, mentions this too. Fun stuff. One of these days when I head back to Long Island, I’m going to have to go exploring around there again… Thanks for the links. Appreciate it. It's good to know the local folklore. I'll see if I can work any of it in to my next Halloween display. Maybe some road signs, and a Mary headstone. It'll be a good talking point during the craziness that happens round our way on Halloween night!
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 20, 2018 15:32:21 GMT
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 20, 2018 23:46:02 GMT
cypher (and anyone else), you may be interested in this. I’m not sure what the author has against Long Island, but some of the points he raises are intriguing.
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Post by hi224 on Sept 22, 2018 18:15:36 GMT
cypher (and anyone else), you may be interested in this. I’m not sure what the author has against Long Island, but some of the points he raises are intriguing. lol poor city.
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 25, 2018 16:23:29 GMT
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Post by Nalkarj on Mar 24, 2020 13:36:03 GMT
There’s a Blair Witch-esque movie that came out in 2010 called YellowBrickRoad; I found it while researching folklore, and it has an interesting “ fakelore” backstory, but otherwise it doesn’t quite seem like my cup of tea. However, I’m writing about it here because that backstory intrigued me, and I’m wondering if anyone here may be able to help with a [possible] related puzzle. According to Wikipedia, YellowBrickRoad’s backstory runs thus: “In 1940 the entire town of Friar, New Hampshire, 572 people, abandoned their town and walked into the wilderness with only the clothes on their backs after a viewing of The Wizard of Oz, a film that the entire town was obsessed with. No one has ever been able to explain why they did this.” OK, that’s a neat story, but it’s obviously fiction—even leaving aside the fact that there is no town of Friar, New Hampshire. We know that the filmmakers made up that tale, just as the Blair Witch people made up an elaborate backstory for their movie. OK, fine, swell. Then why is this from 1948? It’s a mystery about an old New England family, in a small Vermont town, who abandon the town and “walk away” with only the clothes on their backs. The plotting isn’t particularly similar, but the general set-up seemed remarkably close to me, though I doubt the makers of YellowBrickRoad have read Wilders Walk Away. So my question is… Is there a q-source that links these two, a real New England legend I don’t know? I suppose it’s possible that both the YBR people and Herbert Brean hit upon a nigh-identical plot about a New England town, but it would be amazingly coincidental. The only thing I can find that is the legend of Dudleytown, CT, though that’s very tenuous. As always, thanks in advance, everyone! OK, looking back on this, I think the inspiration for both is Dudleytown, though I seem to remember reading about a real abandoned Vermont town—though for the life of me I can’t find it now. Also for the “small New England town where everyone mysteriously vanished” file: Stephen King’s ’Salem’s Lot, which includes some other (fictional) abandoned villages. BTW: Admin, is it possible to move this thread to History or another board? Can’t remember where it was before the board-culling, but it doesn’t seem to fit General Discussion.
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