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Post by bd74 on Mar 5, 2018 20:25:44 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Mar 5, 2018 22:25:17 GMT
It's gonna come to a point where they either stop the speeches or discontinue having comedians being the host.
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Post by TutuAnimationPrincess on Mar 24, 2018 3:33:11 GMT
While I can understand people being turned off by Hollywood politics, I hope the real reason for the ratings decline is people finally realizing pointless awards shows are pointless.
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 24, 2018 8:04:27 GMT
TutuAnimationPrincessI pretty much agree with that. it's just a way for those in Hollywood to kiss up to each other for the most part. because while you have a quality movie nominated for Best Picture etc here and there, it's mostly politics. but sadly, it seems a portion of the public gives them credibility by watching some of those movies they would not have otherwise seen. also, I honestly think that when a movie is nominated for Best Picture for example that people likely inflate their scores on IMDb etc because of it. I can't prove that but it's something I suspect of being true, at least for some people. because for me straight up... there are not many movies that stand out from the pack in general which already puts the odds against many of those Best Picture noms to stand out. just some thoughts
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Post by tresix on Mar 25, 2018 20:27:15 GMT
Some people say that when there is usually no movie that is a real frontrunner, the ratings on the award's show go down. I would think it should be the opposite: when everything is up for grabs, THEN the ratings should go up due to the suspense.
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Post by mikef6 on Mar 25, 2018 22:11:19 GMT
perhaps didn't care to listen to the pc political agendas and bulldust, of a bunch of spoiled and pampered celebrities who think that they have don't have equality and aren't given what they feel entitled too. Thank you Harvey Weinstein. I get so sick of you fringe conservatives (but what other kind of conservatives are there? Fringe has now become mainstream) and your own political agenda of white male superiority. Well, I call b.s. Your time's up.
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Post by bd74 on Mar 26, 2018 19:22:16 GMT
I also think a large part of the reason for this years lower ratings, would have been brought on by Hollywood itself. With all the ballyhoo over alleged sexual abuse accusations, people were either turned off by what they had heard Indeed, I'm beyond tired of hearing about the #TimesUp and #MeToo stuff. It seems very hypocritical that women in Hollywood who claim they were harassed 10 or 20 years ago now wanna play the victim, when in reality they chose to stay quiet just to further their careers. I'm sure a good portion of the public feels the same way, and they wouldn't have watched Oscars anyway to avoid hearing any more of that crap.
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Post by syafiqjabar on Mar 28, 2018 11:39:20 GMT
I'm pretty sure "PC-ness" is not why people stopped watching Oscars, because if so just nod in acknowledgement the next time you see people in other countries celebrate a terrorist attack that kill thousands of US citizens. People just don't care for most award-winning movies nowadays.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Mar 28, 2018 13:54:17 GMT
I think a lot of it has to do with over-saturation. We see stars every day all over various social media outlets and entertainment shows on television...we're so accustomed to seeing celebrities doing everything from walking their dogs to picking up tampons at the drugstore that awards shows aren't the big draws they used to be. Movie attendance continues to drop, so that limits the potential audience who might be interested enough to tune in. Not to mention all the different entertainment options people have now, when I was growing up there were three networks and maybe three or four local channels to choose from instead of the dozens most folks now have. No home video, internet, gaming consoles. There was books, music, or television. Other factors like politics probably do factor in somewhat, but the Oscars have been political going back to George C. Scott not accepting his Best Actor award for Patton...and that's only as far back in my lifetime that I can remember, I'm sure it probably goes back further. So to assume that's the only reason ratings are down is extremely simplistic...sort of like our "President" claiming the only reason for lower NFL ratings are people boycotting over kneeling players. Hell, nobody sees that on TV anyway, the anthem is only broadcast during the Super Bowl.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Mar 29, 2018 7:09:56 GMT
Stars aren't stars anymore. In addition to the internet and 24 hour tv creating over exposure, the movies are cookie cutter, and everyone is beta. And the SJW problem. They aren't interested in entertaining, only preaching.
Big corporations destroyed the business. I doubt it can recover because they can't backtrack from the political agenda. And they have all the money they need so there is no reason to. If advertisers were really in charge they would force the companies to change their tune but they cant so that's how it is.
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Post by bluerisk on Aug 22, 2018 1:24:49 GMT
I'm pretty sure "PC-ness" is not why people stopped watching Oscars, because if so just nod in acknowledgement the next time you see people in other countries celebrate a terrorist attack that kill thousands of US citizens. People just don't care for most award-winning movies nowadays. For me it was. Last year I was even taking a day off, this year I boycotted it.
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Post by amyghost on Aug 23, 2018 18:59:16 GMT
I think it's a combination. There is oversaturation, as Spike notes: the 'specialness' that used to surround the awards as far as seeing the stars were concerned is long over--they're everywhere now; thanks to social media, people are even more embroiled in the illusion that they're somehow intimately involved with these people, which definitely takes off a lot of the shine.
Politics don't help. Yes, there have always been moments of politicizing involved with the awards, or at least since the uptick in Hollywood-style social consciousness and the decline of the studio system which effectively prevented film stars from making overtly political pronouncements; but it does seem to be a 24/7 thing these days, and much of it comes across as self-involved and fairly obtuse. I have no problem with celebrities having the right to air their opinions--not all of them are idiots, and some are capable of speaking intelligent and reasoned ones--and they even have the right to voice dumb ones, just as we grant to everyone else. But so much of it has become so relentlessly 'in your face' that again, it isn't surprising it takes away from the lustre these figures had back in the days when they were beautiful, silent idols. That there looks to be so much hypocrisy involved doesn't help (I can't help but wonder it the Asia Argento thing, and Rose McGowan's none too well-advised response didn't help just a mite to keep audiences away), and most of their concerns definitely are too far-removed from working class Joe's for the average viewer to have much sympathy for them, whether the sympathy may be deserved or not.
I don't think you can go back...and it only adds to the problem that there are way too many choices out there, and the Academy apparently considering ever more categories to embrace them, such as an award for 'best popular picture'. Once you have that sort of proliferation snowballing, the awards begin to look even more meaningless than they already are. I can't help but think this is a ceremony that's run its course and is probably ready to be gently retired. As the very industry itself has changed, the Oscar ceremony should have as well, but hasn't--maybe hasn't been able to keep up gracefully. In all honesty, were this to be the final Oscar telecast, I suspect a majority of the nation wouldn't care and probably wouldn't really miss it when it was gone. Not sure if that's a sad thing or not, really...
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Post by twothousandonemark on Aug 28, 2018 4:42:37 GMT
Who f'n cares. It's f'n television.
Oscars are the most viral thing online that entire wkend & most of the days after. Ppl watching/following them online is a thing. Unless you actually believe that if it's not on TV, it's not there.
lols
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Post by amyghost on Aug 28, 2018 11:59:18 GMT
Who f'n cares. It's f'n television. Oscars are the most viral thing online that entire wkend & most of the days after. Ppl watching/following them online is a thing. Unless you actually believe that if it's not on TV, it's not there. lols I don't watch enuff f'n television I guess, cuz it looks more to me like it's the stuff on televison that's not really there, lulz...Of course, I'm not one of those people who thinks that unless something 'goes viral' it didn't really happen, either.
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Post by darkpast on Sept 1, 2018 3:17:26 GMT
Just like the MTV awards keep going down, simply not relevant anymore. It hurts with lack of movie stars now too.
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Post by DanaShelbyChancey on Sept 10, 2018 14:36:54 GMT
If it was such that we really didn't know ahead of time who had a good chance of winning, if it could be anyone, more people would watch. For the last few years at least, there have been no surprises.
I am a longtime movie buff, but I don't watch the Oscars straight through. I only watch parts, if there is someone I want to see win. Because I already know they are going to win, see above!
I must admit, I want to see what everyone is wearing. Even that, they have all been looking good lately. No one has worn anything really hideous in years.
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