Post by dazz on Mar 12, 2018 9:13:44 GMT
It's a reach because Eobard is saying he made Barry the Flash and helped train him to make him fast enough as quick as possible to breach time so Eobard himself could use it to go home, that's his purpose he doesn't care about anything else he just wants to go home, that's why when Barry stops him from doing so he's fine with killing Barry because if Barry wont let him go home fuck it he'll have his victory atleast whilst he is stuck in the past.
If it's all done to ensure his timeline remains in tact he would not kill Barry out of anger, and if Barry was meant to become The Flash in 2014 then once he did Eobard would have no need to interfere any longer because history's natural progression should ensure his future, it's only due to him interfering in the timeline he has to monitor the future to ensure what he does and how his ongoing meddling doesn't derail his future.
Also as we have seen this isn't the way time was meant to work out as Thawne even says in that clips neither were ever strong enough to defeat the other, but outside of S1 Barry is constantly shown to be more than a match for Thawne, he's beat him every time, to get back home Thawne created a superior Flash than he ever knew one who Thawne cannot keep up with.
Fair point though on Flash getting is powers maybe sooner than I thought as you pointed out a successful launch of a PA wouldn't include it blowing up, but also could be later, it could go boom on the 2nd or 3rd activation someway or another, but still my point I think stands, if Barry is meant to get his speed prior to 2016 so he can meet Eobard for the "first time" why cause the accelerator to blow up? Barry's transformation to The Flash is tied to lightning striking him in his lab and him getting covered in chemicals, without Eobard's interference Barry at that time is still working n that lab, where he gets hit by lightning and covered in those chemicals, what was Barry as a CSI going to be doing differently that would stop him getting struck by that lightning? If it wasn't Thawne someone else would have needed to cause a dark matter infused lightning bolt to strike Barry and how does killing Nora change this?
Now Thawne ensuring Barry becomes a CSI is another matter, if Thawne's meddling was to guide Barry back to his chosen path, and helping form his sense of justice so that when he became a speedster he would also become a hero, become The Flash, but that's not what the show has him do, it shows Barry is that person regardless of the tragedies he does or does not suffer, Thawne's interference is to ensure Barry becomes a speedster, and if that was going to happen by 2016 regardless why waste 14 years of your life trying to make it happen a year or less earlier, him doing it to cut down the time from 20 to 14 makes sense atleast, he's doing it so he can get back significantly faster, hell why not just hide and wait for yourself to show up so you can piggyback off his breach he creates, you know EXACTLY where and when he'll show up and you only have to wait a year or so longer, no risk of getting caught, being killed or fucking up the timeline, just go use your knowledge to find the least impactful way to live a comfortable life until the time comes to go home.
But yeah S1 was awesome, too bad they couldn't keep it up, also too bad no one bothers to pay any attention to it, why the fuck after Thawne spends 14 years trying to go home does when he has the power to reshape the world choose to place himself back a Star Labs? if he loved it so much why the fuck was he so desperate to leave...ah LOT you suck you bunch of prats.
If it's all done to ensure his timeline remains in tact he would not kill Barry out of anger, and if Barry was meant to become The Flash in 2014 then once he did Eobard would have no need to interfere any longer because history's natural progression should ensure his future, it's only due to him interfering in the timeline he has to monitor the future to ensure what he does and how his ongoing meddling doesn't derail his future.
Also as we have seen this isn't the way time was meant to work out as Thawne even says in that clips neither were ever strong enough to defeat the other, but outside of S1 Barry is constantly shown to be more than a match for Thawne, he's beat him every time, to get back home Thawne created a superior Flash than he ever knew one who Thawne cannot keep up with.
Fair point though on Flash getting is powers maybe sooner than I thought as you pointed out a successful launch of a PA wouldn't include it blowing up, but also could be later, it could go boom on the 2nd or 3rd activation someway or another, but still my point I think stands, if Barry is meant to get his speed prior to 2016 so he can meet Eobard for the "first time" why cause the accelerator to blow up? Barry's transformation to The Flash is tied to lightning striking him in his lab and him getting covered in chemicals, without Eobard's interference Barry at that time is still working n that lab, where he gets hit by lightning and covered in those chemicals, what was Barry as a CSI going to be doing differently that would stop him getting struck by that lightning? If it wasn't Thawne someone else would have needed to cause a dark matter infused lightning bolt to strike Barry and how does killing Nora change this?
Now Thawne ensuring Barry becomes a CSI is another matter, if Thawne's meddling was to guide Barry back to his chosen path, and helping form his sense of justice so that when he became a speedster he would also become a hero, become The Flash, but that's not what the show has him do, it shows Barry is that person regardless of the tragedies he does or does not suffer, Thawne's interference is to ensure Barry becomes a speedster, and if that was going to happen by 2016 regardless why waste 14 years of your life trying to make it happen a year or less earlier, him doing it to cut down the time from 20 to 14 makes sense atleast, he's doing it so he can get back significantly faster, hell why not just hide and wait for yourself to show up so you can piggyback off his breach he creates, you know EXACTLY where and when he'll show up and you only have to wait a year or so longer, no risk of getting caught, being killed or fucking up the timeline, just go use your knowledge to find the least impactful way to live a comfortable life until the time comes to go home.
But yeah S1 was awesome, too bad they couldn't keep it up, also too bad no one bothers to pay any attention to it, why the fuck after Thawne spends 14 years trying to go home does when he has the power to reshape the world choose to place himself back a Star Labs? if he loved it so much why the fuck was he so desperate to leave...ah LOT you suck you bunch of prats.
I am not sure if they can do it but Warner Bros own the Road Runner and it would be fun if they had him make a cameo appearance in an episode of 'The Flash' and they could Barry and Iris watching TV and the Road Runner comes on and Barry jokes that he is "totally faster than that guy" and the Road Runner does something and Barry says "or maybe not." 
