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Post by General Kenobi on May 6, 2018 17:01:41 GMT
No! Not the Speedforce!
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 7:27:29 GMT
I don't know. Some sites are now saying she is Joe and Cecille's daughter and Iris' Step Sister 'cause of the way she was looking at them when they opened the door and she did act more strangely around them then Barry and Iris but it wouldn't explain where she got the speedster powers from unless something happens to Cecille and she loses the baby and Barry and Iris have a baby for them and they raise it as their own. Apart from Cecille being pregnant I never understood why they didn't introduce Cecille to DeVoe. She has the power to read minds and could have read everything he was thinking and would have been able to tell them his plans earlier in the season. I think whoever the mystery character is she is there with bad news since her identity is going to end in a cliffhanger. But that's the thing the 2 prominent theories have been she's Dawn Allen or she's Joe & Cecile's kid, sure most were leaning towards her being Dawn Allen it's not like baby west wasn't a major theory from the jump, same as Savitar is Barry was always a major theory but we had others, the stupid thing is we make up additional theories because we assume they cant be this dumb or obvious after our initial guesses point us to the obvious conclusion, the fact we keep guessing isn't because we don't get their "mystery" but that we are thinking of more in depth and intriguing ones, unlike these chumps.
How she gets speed powers is an easy enough solution if she's Joe & Cecile's kid, they could say she got will get sick when she was/is 10 and needed bone marrow and Wally was/is the only match they knew it could have side effects but they the risk was worth it and since then boom speedster, or a dozen other stories like a speedforce storm gave dozens of people in central city powers including her, cliffhanger in that regard could be that she's here to stop that from happening, by destroying the speedforce dun Dun DUN!!!!
Yeah. You have a good point. A lot of the time the characters or outcomes we are thinking about are well off and end up being very disappointing 'cause we put our hopes up too high only for them to cut them down like who was going to die on the island in 'Arrow', the real identities of Prometheus, Savitar and Vigilante and Ricardo Diaz/Richard Dragon who while hasn't been the worst villain is not half the martial artist and physical threat Richard Dragon was in the comic books and should have been for Oliver. She most likely will turn out to be Dawn Allen or Joe and Cecile's daughter but if she is hopefully she comes with a bigger threat 'cause they said she is going to play a bigger part in the next series and her identity will end in a cliffhanger. Maybe she is there to warn them all of somebody really powerful coming who is going to destroy the world or kills Barry. Then again it might have something to do with Reverse Flash and he could be causing problems in the future or trying to ruin the past. It is kinda odd we haven't seen him again after he was brought back in the crossover episode and I think he will come back again. Maybe Reverse Flash gathers a group of villains with superpowers from the future and brings them all back to face the Flash.
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Post by General Kenobi on May 16, 2018 13:33:03 GMT
I think we're also disappointed because Marvel has spoiled us with their excellent adaptations of heroes and villains to the screen. Makes anyone who doesn't do the same seem very lazy.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 11:52:38 GMT
I think we're also disappointed because Marvel has spoiled us with their excellent adaptations of heroes and villains to the screen. Makes anyone who doesn't do the same seem very lazy. Sorry. I haven't been a fan of many of Marvel's adaptions of villains either. The MCU have definitely been better at handling superheroes than the DCU but as far as villains go I think the majority of the villains in the DCEU and MCU have been very poor in comparison to their comic book counterparts and I think the 'Arkham' games and 'Smallville' had better adaptions of villains than both of them. I can't even remember half the villains that were in the MCU movies and I don't like the DCEU's versions of the Joker and Lex Luthor. I think they should replace both of them with Mark Hamill and Michael Rosenbaum and get the 'Smallville' writers to write them. Let Mark Hamill play the Joker!!
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Post by General Kenobi on May 20, 2018 13:26:27 GMT
I think Marvel is getting better at giving villains a personality. Though I feel some died before reaching their full potential. But even with all that they stand head and shoulders anything DC has done.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 13:44:45 GMT
I think Marvel is getting better at giving villains a personality. Though I feel some died before reaching their full potential. But even with all that they stand head and shoulders anything DC has done. When it comes to movies I agree with you but I think DC has better villains than Marvel and love the adaptions of them in the 'Arkham' video games and a big part of that had to do with the writer, Paul Dini. If the DCEU had villains on the level they were on in the 'Arkham' games like the Joker, the Penguin, The Scarecrow, the Riddler, Two Face, Killer Croc, Clayface, Solomon Grundy, Mr Freeze, Lady Shiva, Deathstroke, Firefly, Poison Ivy, Man Bat, Mr Freeze, Copperhead, Bane, Ra' al Ghul, Huge Strange, Mad Hatter etc and Paul writing them they would be beating Marvel now but Warner Bros have made nothing but mistake after mistake with poor writers.
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Post by BexxyJ on May 22, 2018 12:47:12 GMT
I think we're also disappointed because Marvel has spoiled us with their excellent adaptations of heroes and villains to the screen. Makes anyone who doesn't do the same seem very lazy. Sorry. I haven't been a fan of many of Marvel's adaptions of villains either. The MCU have definitely been better at handling superheroes than the DCU but as far as villains go I think the majority of the villains in the DCEU and MCU have been very poor in comparison to their comic book counterparts and I think the 'Arkham' games and 'Smallville' had better adaptions of villains than both of them. I can't even remember half the villains that were in the MCU movies and I don't like the DCEU's versions of the Joker and Lex Luthor. I think they should replace both of them with Mark Hamill and Michael Rosenbaum and get the 'Smallville' writers to write them. Let Mark Hamill play the Joker!! At least you can remember half of them. They must have been so bad I wiped them from my mind.
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Post by General Kenobi on May 22, 2018 20:07:22 GMT
I think the only problem with MCU villains is they have little to no personality and die at the end of every movie. But they look and act like they should.
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Post by stargazer1682 on May 23, 2018 4:34:50 GMT
Shock. Gasp. Someone pick me up off the floor, because I am gobsmacked and stunned by the unexpected reveal in the Flash finale....
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Post by dazz on May 23, 2018 11:30:18 GMT
OMG I cannot believe it, how did they fool us, we thought all along that she was going to be Barry & Iris's speedster daughter Dawn Allen, but it turns out she's not she's their speedster daughter Nora Allen, I mean how ingenious is that they managed to fool us over the most significant part of who the character was, I mean I am flabbergasted over their creativity...
Fucking twats, oh her names Nora not Dawn big surprise but everything else we guessed from her first appearance onwards, pathetic bunch of twats trying to think changing a characters name means dick, CCW should fine writers for bullshit like this, stop em from doing it, or atleast from running their fucking mouths so much.
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Post by General Kenobi on May 23, 2018 12:16:54 GMT
The Flash writers at the viewers.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 6:37:13 GMT
I think the only problem with MCU villains is they have little to no personality and die at the end of every movie. But they look and act like they should. I think the main problems with the MCU are their villains, their lack of female superheroes and their mishandling of female characters in general. The article below brings up a lot of great points about how the MCU has poorly portrayed and treated female characters in their movies and while Marvel have been far better with handling female characters in TV shows like 'Marvel's The Runaways', 'The Gifted', 'Marvel's Agents of SHIELD' and 'Agent Carter' the movies leave a lot to be desired and have had a lot of toxic masculinity and misogyny in them. With the villains I think their worst adaption has been Shocker in 'Spider-Man: Homecoming' and their mishandling of that character was one of the main things I didn't like about the movie. They essentially did what the 'Arrowverse' does with a lot of their villains by a creating a new character that was absolutely nothing like the version most fans were familiar with in the comic books, animated TV shows and video games and slapping the Shocker name on him.
I expect that type of thing in the 'Arrowverse' TV shows 'cause they are known for screwing characters up but the MCU had no excuse and they took what was a popular and powerful Spider-Man villain that could have easily been the lead villain of a movie and turned him into some random henchman that didn't even wear the Shocker costume that allowed him to send out shockwaves and gave him special abilities and I would say Shocker in 'Spider-Man: Homecoming' is the worst adaption of a comic book character in a movie since 'Catwoman.' Simply putting women on screen won’t be enough to sustain Marvelpost-Avengers theconversation.com/simply-putting-women-on-screen-wont-be-enough-to-sustain-marvel-post-avengers-95721
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Post by BexxyJ on May 25, 2018 15:01:40 GMT
OMG I cannot believe it, how did they fool us, we thought all along that she was going to be Barry & Iris's speedster daughter Dawn Allen, but it turns out she's not she's their speedster daughter Nora Allen, I mean how ingenious is that they managed to fool us over the most significant part of who the character was, I mean I am flabbergasted over their creativity... Fucking twats, oh her names Nora not Dawn big surprise but everything else we guessed from her first appearance onwards, pathetic bunch of twats trying to think changing a characters name means dick, CCW should fine writers for bullshit like this, stop em from doing it, or atleast from running their fucking mouths so much. I was surprised. I was worried Barry was having an affair with her but I'm so happy my fears have been put to rest.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2018 11:49:00 GMT
OMG I cannot believe it, how did they fool us, we thought all along that she was going to be Barry & Iris's speedster daughter Dawn Allen, but it turns out she's not she's their speedster daughter Nora Allen, I mean how ingenious is that they managed to fool us over the most significant part of who the character was, I mean I am flabbergasted over their creativity... Fucking twats, oh her names Nora not Dawn big surprise but everything else we guessed from her first appearance onwards, pathetic bunch of twats trying to think changing a characters name means dick, CCW should fine writers for bullshit like this, stop em from doing it, or atleast from running their fucking mouths so much. You were definitely right Dazz. The showrunners tried to fool us and said she wasn't Barry and Iris' daughter when fans were saying she was a few months ago and sure enough, when we reached the final episode of the season she was Barry and Iris' daughter. It is sad how predictable this show is sometimes and there was no big reveal of an impending disaster having to do with the events of next season either like they made out there was going to be and with the way the show ended anything could happen next season. I think it would have been better if they had pulled a twist and had her turn out to be the villain for next season but she didn't even warn them about a villain coming and she might only stay in two episodes and go back to the future next season. Another questions fans are now talking about is who is the female speedster Jay Garrick is training on Earth 3? Was it Nora Allen or another character like Liberty Belle? Hopefully that turns out to be a more exciting reveal than this one.
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Post by General Kenobi on May 31, 2018 18:12:06 GMT
Why try to be exciting when you can continue to disappoint?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2018 14:04:03 GMT
Why try to be exciting when you can continue to disappoint? I know and just think it is the writers who are getting paid a lot of money for storylines like this so they are making more money than a lot of normal people do who work all week long to pay their bills and provide for themselves and their families just for writing bad storylines in TV shows. They have easy lives.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2018 14:11:29 GMT
Well it has been reveled who she is now.
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Post by BexxyJ on Jun 6, 2018 14:41:55 GMT
Well it has been reveled who she is now. I don't trust her. I haven't forgotten the things she did in Smallville. She is untrustworthy and is up to something.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jun 6, 2018 14:50:28 GMT
You can't trust her. The actress was a pirate wench on "Black Sails" and a tree monster on "The Troop", so she must be up to something bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2018 15:37:19 GMT
Well it has been reveled who she is now. I don't trust her. I haven't forgotten the things she did in Smallville. She is untrustworthy and is up to something. I don`t remember her from Smallville. What did she do ?
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