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Post by merh on Mar 20, 2018 1:37:31 GMT
Be interesting to see what version of Thor we get. The goofball, stumbling joke in Ragnarok or the more astute, authoritative Thor from the previous films. Given Infinity War is supposed to be serious, Im hoping the latter. If we get goofball Thor then its going to 2.5 hours of constant cringe given that he and Thanos have the most screentime. I wouldn't be shocked if Thor ends up having a dance off with Thanos to distract him whilst someone steals the gaunlet (the basic reason how Thanos is defeated in the comic). You mean this one? Or this? |
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Post by harpospoke on Mar 20, 2018 4:57:42 GMT
Sounds great to me. Thor 3 really made me a bigger fan of Thor.
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Post by charzhino on Mar 20, 2018 11:40:51 GMT
You mean this one? Or this? An sparse but acceptable amount of goofiness (specifically the AoU clip). In Ragnarok its a constant barage of slapstick, cringey jokes, lame self defamation and playing down serious moments. Change in Thors tone is jarring. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 14:53:05 GMT
You mean this one? Or this? An sparse but acceptable amount of goofiness (specifically the AoU clip). In Ragnarok its a constant barage of slapstick, cringey jokes, lame self defamation and playing down serious moments. Change in Thors tone is jarring. Well Anthony Mackie says this Infinity War is the most human Marvel movie yet and Taika Waititi is a comedy director and he did say he wanted to reboot the Thor franchise with a comedic tone. It's the Russo Brothers so I trust that this one will be as serious as Winter Soldier, Black Panther and Civil War(I know we don't see eye to eye on this one). |
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Post by politicidal on Mar 20, 2018 15:29:27 GMT
Sounds great to me. Thor 3 really made me a bigger fan of Thor. Yeah it's time he got his due in an Avengers flick. I think the highlight for him in the first one was that 'adoption' oneliner. |
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Post by harpospoke on Mar 20, 2018 17:13:46 GMT
An sparse but acceptable amount of goofiness (specifically the AoU clip). In Ragnarok its a constant barage of slapstick, cringey jokes, lame self defamation and playing down serious moments. Change in Thors tone is jarring. The biggest change for me was watchable movies changing to one of my favorite Marvel movies ever. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 20, 2018 21:02:53 GMT
You mean this one? Or this? An sparse but acceptable amount of goofiness (specifically the AoU clip). In Ragnarok its a constant barage of slapstick, cringey jokes, lame self defamation and playing down serious moments. Change in Thors tone is jarring. Yeah, it showed Thor actually showing character development in how he predicted Loki's treachery and turned it back on him. As opposed to Xavier, who never learns and always lets Magneto go. |
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Post by charzhino on Mar 20, 2018 22:44:26 GMT
Yeah, it showed Thor actually showing character development in how he predicted Loki's treachery and turned it back on him. As opposed to Xavier, who never learns and always lets Magneto go. Yeah, he just leaves Loki there until hes freed and can rejoin him in the final fight with Hela. At which point Thor gladly takes him back on the ship until Loki will betray him again and give Thanos the tesseract to screw over Thor... A big U turn from imprisoning him in TDW for life for killing people on earth, which is where Thor is taking Loki anyway without resistance. Not much believable character growth or development there. |
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Post by merh on Mar 20, 2018 23:17:22 GMT
Yeah, it showed Thor actually showing character development in how he predicted Loki's treachery and turned it back on him. As opposed to Xavier, who never learns and always lets Magneto go. Yeah, he just leaves Loki there until hes freed and can rejoin him in the final fight with Hela. At which point Thor gladly takes him back on the ship until Loki will betray him again and give Thanos the tesseract to screw over Thor... A big U turn from imprisoning him in TDW for life for killing people on earth, which is where Thor is taking Loki anyway without resistance. Not much believable character growth or development there. some are saying Loki is killed by Thanos. That scene where Thanos has a hand on Thor's head isn't fighting but apparently forcing the Thunderer to watch. Thor loves Loki as a brother. Why do people not get this? Thor & Loki:Blood Brothers was apparently reference for the first movie. He says it in Dark World-I wish I could trust you. Loki is a black hole of need in the first movie, angry at everyone, rebelling against everyone. As Loki realises in Blood Brothers, Thor is the one person who has always accepted Loki as family. So perceptive about everyone else, except himself was how Frigga put it to Loki, wasnt it? |
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 21, 2018 0:04:23 GMT
Yeah, it showed Thor actually showing character development in how he predicted Loki's treachery and turned it back on him. As opposed to Xavier, who never learns and always lets Magneto go. Yeah, he just leaves Loki there until hes freed and can rejoin him in the final fight with Hela. At which point Thor gladly takes him back on the ship until Loki will betray him again and give Thanos the tesseract to screw over Thor... A big U turn from imprisoning him in TDW for life for killing people on earth, which is where Thor is taking Loki anyway without resistance. Not much believable character growth or development there. Thor took him back because Loki actually did something selfless and came back to Asgard to save its people. As opposed to Xavier who just lets Magneto get away with stuff with no punishment even though Magneto does nothing to redeem himself. He didn't imprison Loki in TDW, Odin did that. |
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Post by charzhino on Mar 21, 2018 11:29:42 GMT
Thor took him back because Loki actually did something selfless and came back to Asgard to save its people. As opposed to Xavier who just lets Magneto get away with stuff with no punishment even though Magneto does nothing to redeem himself. It doesnt matter because Loki is a repeat offender and he will always betray Thor for his own selfish desire, and thats proved when he steals the Tesseract at the end of Ragnarok without telling Thor, which again will be a costly decision as Thanos will use it to kill millions more of humans. Loki doesnt care about Asgard either, hes not from there and isnt pure Asgardian. This is infact no different from Xavier/Magnetos conflict of trust. As merh pointed out above, Thor wants to trust Loki but he cant, same what Xavier said about Erik in DOFP before they break him outta prison. Both stories needed the antiheros to team up with the hero to defeat the greater evil. Thor forgives Loki wrecking havoc on earth and killing thousands through Lokis own desire to rule. That is much worse than what Magneto does in Apocalypse, given that hes lost his closest family and is under persuasive influence from a godlike mutant. Loki has never hit rock bottom like Magneto has, hes just a crybaby who wants attention and a throne. And Magneto does redeem himself, he turns on Apocalypse and helps the Xmen to stop him. And Thor approved. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 21, 2018 13:44:05 GMT
It doesn't matter what Loki did, because Thanos is going to kill him in Infinity War.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 21, 2018 22:09:20 GMT
It doesnt matter because Loki is a repeat offender Not as bad as Magneto. If he didn't care he wouldn't have shown up to evacuate everyone at the end of Ragnarok. He also felt bad about his prior actions otherwise he wouldn't have made that play explicitly mention all of them. Thor and Loki knew each other for hundreds of years and have a real relationship, Xavier and Erik do not. Because Loki did something to prove he was remorseful, Erik hasn't. Turning on Apocalypse means nothing. He approved of imprisoning him, not killing him. |
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