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Post by dodge4life on Mar 22, 2018 22:20:15 GMT
Whether or not Chucky is your cup of tea, the sequels are consistently good. Unlike some horror like Jason and Michael Myers franchise, where each sequel tends to get more stale than the last, where we see the same formula being recycled over again (Jason killing teens in the woods) until the formula grows weary, Chucky sequels don't just recycle the same plot, but they expand on the story and bring new things to the table. The movies have even changed genres (straight horror, to comedy, to parody) while keeping the continuity, something most horror franchises fail to do. Friday the 13th movies are horrible at continuity - from not mentioning characters or events from previous film, to Jason melting in toxic waste yet being intact in the subsequent film. But each Chucky film has been great at keeping the continuity intact from the previous film.
And they're different genres depending on what you're in the mood for. Bride of Chucky added comedy to the mix, and it worked. Seed of Chucky is perhaps the weakest link in the franchise, basically becoming a parody of itself, but it wasn't all bad. And then Chucky back to his dark roots in Curse. Curse and CP1 were perhaps the darkest of the franchise. I also liked Cult - where they blended comedy in with the dark horror: Certainly not as comedy as Bride or Seed.
The movies never get dull. Each film is shot and directed well. Each has a different visual style. Cult had that blue tint to the asylum that looked straight out of Sarah's Conner's asylum in T2. CP2 was vibrant and colorful and had that vivid toy factory climax, with great mis-en-scene, for e.g. the way the Good Guy's dolls in their cases were lined up. CP1 had this film-noir-esque urban vibe. They were all distinct visually, for the most part.
And there's so many potential story arcs in the Chucky's catalogue that there's never any shortage of sequel ideas. Chucky's son Glen hasn't even been in the previous two films, they could focus on him. They could focus on Jennifer Tilly as Tiffany. Even then, Chucky rocks solo as he did in the recent Curse of Chucky. Right now, they're focusing on the Fiona Dourif arc, but they still have Andy Barclay from the first 3 films, Andy's mom Catherine Hicks, Kyle, Andy's stepsister, Tyler, the survivor from part 3 as well as Andy's love interest, and of course Katherine Heigl and her beau from Bride of Chucky who weren't mentioned since and are due for closure. There's also the cop who survived the first movie, but in CP2 we're told he denied the story who's due to be seen again. There are so many options to explore that we're good for another 10 films.
Also: What I like about Chucky is that there's never been a reboot. Many fans thought adding Glen (Chucky's son) and to an extent Tiffany ruined Chucky by making him less scary and more of a comedy. But Curse of Chucky (Chucky's solo film) proved that Chucky can be dark horror again like CP1 will still not throwing away the continuity of Tiffany and Glen. In practically any other Hollywood movie if there's a mistake, they just reboot and start from scratch.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 22:41:48 GMT
It definitely is one of the most consistent franchises.
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Post by Marv on Mar 23, 2018 4:03:33 GMT
I agree. It’s arguable the most consistent horror franchise.
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Post by James on Mar 24, 2018 0:12:23 GMT
Great analysis. I agree that the franchise is consistent, for the most part. The series went on a downward slope from the original to the bottom with Seed, which was the only one I really didn't like. Curse of course brought it back up and Cult, while not as good, still kept the franchise going good. I'm wondering what we'll have in store for Part 8. And it better not be a reboot! Not after that cliffhanger!
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Post by James on Mar 25, 2018 13:40:02 GMT
I recently watched 2 and 3 again and apart from the climax with 2, I found it a bit ho-hum. I have seen the first 5 Chucky's, and have always preferred 3 the best out of the sequels. I thought the military school setting and an older Andy worked really well into the mix, and the violence was more impactful. Of course the first is still the classic of the lot and the best acted by all 3 human leads. I liked Child's Play 3, too. It was different yet fresh going to the military camp setting. Plus, it has some of Chucky's best lines and kills, too, most notably the barber (Presto, ya dead!). Since you said you only seen the first 5 films, does that mean you have yet to check out Curse and Cult? And if not, do you plan on seeing them? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 15:34:29 GMT
You mean except for 3, 4 and 5 right? Those were bad, especially 5.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 15:35:05 GMT
I have seen the first 5 Chucky's, Watch 6 and 7. By far the best of the sequels. |
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Post by James on Mar 25, 2018 18:33:49 GMT
I have seen the first 5 Chucky's, Watch 6 and 7. By far the best of the sequels. Yeah, especially 6. But I liked 7 okay. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Mar 25, 2018 21:33:43 GMT
I figured it was a dead series after 3 but when the newer ones came along I was thinking WTF? Although the one with John Waters watching Chucky masturbating to a Fangoria magazine was surreal. I agree they are never boring or routine. I still like the first the best. I can remember nothing about 2 except him getting Andy into trouble with the teacher. Poor Andy-how many times he got in trouble because of Chucky's cursing. Andrew Robinson was the barber in 3 right? I remember that scene and the line "what do you know, Chucky's going to be a bro." Chucky shilling Child's Play 2 at an awards show: www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_rHShnq1So |
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Post by outrider127 on Mar 26, 2018 0:57:41 GMT
Agree, enjoyed them all
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 26, 2018 10:25:35 GMT
I don't quite agree myself. I greatly dislike Seed, and I'm not big on 3, either (even though it has an admittedly unique setting).
The most consistent horror franchise I can think of is probably Evil Dead. Even the remake isn't half bad, and the TV series is also a lot of fun so far.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Mar 26, 2018 13:29:06 GMT
The most recent one was pretty terrible.
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Post by James on Mar 28, 2018 1:21:43 GMT
I don't quite agree myself. I greatly dislike Seed, and I'm not big on 3, either (even though it has an admittedly unique setting). The most consistent horror franchise I can think of is probably Evil Dead. Even the remake isn't half bad, and the TV series is also a lot of fun so far. Same here, although I'd replace 3 with Bride as the mediocre installment. And yeah, all of the Evil Dead films have been good to date. The remake was decent enough. I actually still need to check out the show. |
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Post by ck100 on Mar 28, 2018 1:54:53 GMT
A lot of people hate #3, but I honestly think it's not that bad (though the carnival part at the end is contrived as hell).
One of the reasons for such consistency is that all the movies have the same screenwriter (Don Mancini). |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 28, 2018 8:37:50 GMT
I don't quite agree myself. I greatly dislike Seed, and I'm not big on 3, either (even though it has an admittedly unique setting). The most consistent horror franchise I can think of is probably Evil Dead. Even the remake isn't half bad, and the TV series is also a lot of fun so far. Same here, although I'd replace 3 with Bride as the mediocre installment. And yeah, all of the Evil Dead films have been good to date. The remake was decent enough. I actually still need to check out the show. I think Bride is a lot of fun, with some memorable deaths (like the guy getting hit by the semi and bursting like a water balloon). It gets lumped in with Seed a lot, but there's still *somewhat* of a serious angle, and the jokes aren't as dated. 3 just struck me as dull, and I didn't like the guy playing Andy. |
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Post by James on Mar 28, 2018 10:36:00 GMT
Same here, although I'd replace 3 with Bride as the mediocre installment. And yeah, all of the Evil Dead films have been good to date. The remake was decent enough. I actually still need to check out the show. I think Bride is a lot of fun, with some memorable deaths (like the guy getting hit by the semi and bursting like a water balloon). It gets lumped in with Seed a lot, but there's still *somewhat* of a serious angle, and the jokes aren't as dated. 3 just struck me as dull, and I didn't like the guy playing Andy. Bride is definitely fun. I guess I'm just biased against it for the humour, which is something that I'm not a big fan of in this franchise. Hence why I put both Bride and Seed at the bottom of my ranking, with Seed being at the absolute bottom. |
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Post by dodge4life on Mar 30, 2018 0:58:35 GMT
I recently watched 2 and 3 again and apart from the climax with 2, I found it a bit ho-hum. I have seen the first 5 Chucky's, and have always preferred 3 the best out of the sequels. I thought the military school setting and an older Andy worked really well into the mix, and the violence was more impactful. Of course the first is still the classic of the lot and the best acted by all 3 human leads. Part 2 was one of my favs as it's just a beautiful film to look at. It's also one of the best acted helped by veteran Jenny Auguter and Gerrit Graham along with 1. But that toy factory climax - upon when Kyle first rolls over the garage just making it in, to when Chucky explodes via air compressor, is one of the best climaxes in horror history. A lot of detail went into making that toy factory look the way it did, and I'm sure where most of the budget went, but everything from the set design, to the camera angles, to the cinematography, to the suspense - was perfectly done. Overall, the visual style was a lot brighter than CP1 and the dully visually CP3, Chucky's red hair and blue eyes stood out more, making it a beautiful film to look at. Bride of Chucky is another visually colorful one, directed by Ronny Yu. Part 3 gets slack for being one of the worst but I never thought it was that bad. It doesn't have the repeat viewing factor that Part 1 and especially 2 have, was a bit rushed (only coming out 9 months after the 2nd). The colors are a lot more muted and dull, and it seemed like it had a lower budget, but if you're a Chucky fan it does the job. I liked the military setting. The climax (in the carnival) failed to hold a candle to the CP2 climax, though. Bride of Chucky was great, too, it's the first one where we see Chucky as a central character, interacting with Tiffany while hilarity ensues, where he's no longer hiding in suspense until the next kill. They made it a comedy, the kills were more fun than scary, and I have no issue with that. It was nicely shot and the put together. Seed was a bit all over the place, but even then, it's refreshing knowing Chucky can be taken out of his element into a parody of himself for one film. If all the same movies were the same tone, it'd get boring after a while. We need a variety. And Curse was one of the best in the series - they brought the suspense back (is the doll alive or not?) from the original which is a hard feat to accomplish in the 6th film in the franchise. |
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Post by dodge4life on Mar 30, 2018 1:00:38 GMT
Same here, although I'd replace 3 with Bride as the mediocre installment. And yeah, all of the Evil Dead films have been good to date. The remake was decent enough. I actually still need to check out the show. I think Bride is a lot of fun, with some memorable deaths (like the guy getting hit by the semi and bursting like a water balloon). It gets lumped in with Seed a lot, but there's still *somewhat* of a serious angle, and the jokes aren't as dated. 3 just struck me as dull, and I didn't like the guy playing Andy. I like 3 as I am a Chucky fan, but yes it did seem dull, it's like someone forgot to turn a light on throughout filming, the whole film seemed rather dark, especially following the bright, colorful, vivid part 2. |
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Post by schizkebab on Apr 2, 2018 14:24:19 GMT
I haven't seen "Cult of" yet, but as for all the others... I've enjoyed them all except for "Seed".
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Post by egon1982 on May 21, 2019 14:00:31 GMT
part 2 is an excellent sequel as it's a sequel that surpasses part 1 with the same likable characters, even better puppetry, more kills, the awesome climax in the doll factory, a brief background on the toy company and all and i enjoy part 1 but 2 is my fave in the franchise and i feel part 3 is underrated and doesn't deserve the shit it gets, i feel it's the last good film in the franchise as i felt it ended the story. The first 3 which is a trilogy as Child's Play in my book as it had nice kills, the military school location is something different, fine gore, puppetry could had been better, a fine balance, the idea of Andy as a teen to fight his arch nemesis is a great idea, Tyler is likable and that climax at the amusement park is great.
Bride was when the downhill as sure it was doing something different as it has visual flair/style by Ronny Yu with decent production values but falls flat on it's face with the script and the characters are unlikable and some lame stuff as it was a mediocre sequel. Just boring as it just has Tiffany and Chucky bickering at each other nearly, the road trip seems boring and all that but good soundtrack.
Seed was really shitty as it continues the the downhill trend after Bride as this one goes for comedy and it's not funny, more unlikable characters with no charisma or personality, Glen is just as annoying as Tiffany as he/she whatever the hell it is should be kicked, Chucky fuckin' wacks off and all that. Good animatronics and score by Pino of Carrie fame but the film was shitty. This is how lazy Seed Of Chucky is...Chucky smashes through a wooden door. Peers in and says this line...
"You know, I can't think of a thing to say. Fuck it!"
Can't think of a thing to say? How about I dunno...Here's Chucky? Something like that is better than making a clear reference to The Shining and then just saying "I can't think of a thing to say.." That's just lazy as hell.
Fuck it is right. Fuck this movie. And not to mention that stupid Violins line, i mean what the hell were you thinking Don Mancini even to have Chucky jack off.
Curse UGH! boring horrible sequel as i don't get the praise, to each their own but i HATE I HATE I HATE this movie as much as Seed but even worse. It throws continuity out the window even the rules and no likable characters, horrible CGI, Chucky looks like shit, piss poor direction by Mancini as he can't direct for shit like in Seed, his writing is even worse here, the chili scene goes on and on for nearly 10 minutes as it's boring as sin and this movie is not scary and feels full of life like a corpse. Don't get me started on that dumbass cameo by Andy Barclay even Alex Vincent back as him, it's terrible and does nothing and i was like "why wasn't THIS the movie? instead of what i sat through".
Did this guy watch the same movie I did? If you like Curse Of Chucky that's fine with me...But I don't get the praise at all.
I really don't.
"the movie does so much right that it’s easy to overlook the very few flaws it has. The pacing and writing coincide to create a fun blood-soaked jaunt that never gets boring or dull. He goes on to praise the director, pointing out that "Mancini (pulling double duty as writer as well as director) does a great job at introducing and ushering off characters in a fashion that doesn’t bog the film down with a bunch of characters who get three minutes of film time before getting the axe, or butcher knife in this case. The kills are kitschy, but in the best way possible, waxing nostalgic of the slasher films of the late eighties and early nineties."
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Very few flaws? The whole movie is flawed. It opens up with an out of focus shot on a bridge for fuck's sake. It doesn't even have a real ending either. It's a pointless story and a waste of time. It has no pacing to speak of, other than slow pacing, it isn't fun, or that bloody. And it never gets boring or dull? How? How is watching what feels like ten minutes of people eating chili fun? And it does a terrible job of introducing characters. Because they all suck. And you don't give a shit if they live or die. And the kills are horrible. What is this guy smoking, and can I have some?
Have horror fans who review movies on websites lowered their standards? What is the explanation for this movie's 81 percent on Rotten Tomatoes? Which is one of if not the highest rating out of the entire franchise?
Here's another baffling review from Brad Miska of Bloody Disgusting.
"Curse of Chucky may just be the best home video sequel since Wrong Turn 2. It's alarmingly good, which puts pressure on Universal to answer as to why they didn't let Mancini shoot this for theaters". He continued to say, "Chucky fans should rejoice, though, as Curse of Chucky is clearly going to re-ignite the franchise for years to come."
Alarmingly awful is more like it. And no this lifetime original movie should never be released in theaters ever. Never ever EVER. And I am a big Chucky fan (first 3 only) and I have nothing to rejoice about. Because this effectively killed the franchise as far as I am concerned. Seed was a shot in the chest And this was a shot in the head.
Cult of Chucky is THE WORST film in the franchise as it's even a worse fuck up than Curse! as the rules/continuity are thrown out the window even with that stupid cheat code, more unlikable characters with no personality or charisma, though Douriff's daughter is slightly improved in this sequel on her acting but everyone seems wooden, horrible lightning/directing, some decent puppetry and one good kill but the rest were crap, the CGI looks shitty as ever and the ending pissed me off even with that pointless Kyle cameo as i was like "why wasn't this the movie?". Mancini has fucked this franchise in the ass and if Bride was a shot in the back, Seed a shot in the chest, curse a shot in the head and this is the final nail in the coffin of the franchise.
Here are some winner lines of dialogue in Cult Of Chucky...
Chucky(Upon finding a canister of compressed oxygen) "Compressed...Is that what I think it means? Really...I am not sure."
Great. Now Chucky is an idiot too. I never thought Charles Lee Ray was so fucking stupid that he didn't know what compressed is. Don, is your brain compressed? That would explain your shitty writing and this pathetic dialogue...
Chucky(After killing a woman with falling glass) "Sometimes, I even scare myself."
What kind of line was that? That didn't make a lick of fucking sense in the context of that scene at all. The only scary thing about this piece of shit is how bad it is.
Mancini was a fine writer with the original film, part 2, 3 and Tales from the Crypt Fitting Punishment but after that, he began to suck as a writer as he went downhill as his writing has gotten worse. He even sucks worse than a director as he's a hack at that and an amateur with no experience at all at directing! now Ronny Yu, Don Lafia and Tom Holland are better directors who at least know what their doing. Don on the other hand doesn't know how to direct and the last 3 films are proof of it. He's a cancer to this franchise after 3 when for sequels they could had gave it to someone else who knows what the hell they are doing and all that. He's to Child's Play what Kathleen Kennedy is to Star Wars, both need to go.
And a TV show coming soon from Don? no thanks, your franchise is DEAD already and having more stupid ass ideas like Chucky in WWII and all. Your a cancer to the franchise Don and should get the hell out of dodge. Now the new Child's Play remake, i'm actually looking forward to and i'm curious about! i like that it's using practical effects, nice use of colors/cinematography, the kid seems likable as the new andy, i like Aubrey playing a mother, i like the killer AI idea as the voodoo thing seems so 80s and old hat after CP 3 as its' taking a completely different approach, plus it will be hard R with practical make up and i like that as this remake is a passion project for the filmmakers on doing something fresh for the franchise after Mancini killed it, but we'll see.
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