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Post by Cody™ on Mar 30, 2018 9:25:01 GMT
A complete stranger when they meet one.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 30, 2018 9:41:01 GMT
It's (un)cool when people leap to irrational conclusions when there are far more likely ones.
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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 30, 2018 10:07:45 GMT
It's (un)cool when people leap to irrational conclusions when there are far more likely ones. Easily faked signs and wonders are not cool, at least not for the general public. I've been over this before how it can be much more convincing to people who are closer to the those involved and have better information about what actually happened. One example I use is Akiane Kramarik. The general public can easily believe it is just a rather elaborate hoax, but her own mother would know whether or not it's a hoax. Of course a small child might really have her ability without the involvement of the "Holy Spirit" or whatever spiritual phenomena, but her testimony would be compelling nevertheless knowing it was not a hoax. |
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Post by rizdek on Mar 30, 2018 11:13:00 GMT
Now if we could just get him to tell us the names and locations of those who are trafficking in humans it might be helpful.
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Post by Cody™ on Mar 30, 2018 11:40:24 GMT
Now if we could just get him to tell us the names and locations of those who are trafficking in humans it might be helpful. As internet atheists trolls go, you're certainly nearer to the bottom of the barrel. |
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Post by cupcakes on Mar 30, 2018 12:19:44 GMT
tpfkar Raw gullibility is funny!
Does a banana have a brain and organs too? Yet it shares roughly the same % of DNA to us as a Fruit Fly. The evidence discredits itself. |
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Post by goz on Mar 30, 2018 22:32:38 GMT
A complete stranger when they meet one. Too funny. You should watch the video again and hear what I heard, which was a friend of 'Kevin' call out 'Hey c'mon Kevin', in the background! You might not have picked up the accent butt as an Australian I heard it absolutely clearly, as did the 'GodBotherer' who then claimed divine inspiration, just like any other charletan. 1.08/9 in the video and he turns around and laughs to acknowledge them. |
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Post by rizdek on Mar 31, 2018 0:12:32 GMT
Now if we could just get him to tell us the names and locations of those who are trafficking in humans it might be helpful. As internet atheists trolls go, you're certainly nearer to the bottom of the barrel. Are you saying it wouldn't be helpful? Isn't human trafficking a horrible thing? |
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Post by captainbryce on Mar 31, 2018 1:06:31 GMT
As internet atheists trolls go, you're certainly nearer to the bottom of the barrel. Are you saying it wouldn't be helpful? Isn't human trafficking a horrible thing? Christian fundamentalist nut jobs don’t give a shit about human trafficking, child laborers, third world genocide, poverty, or world hunger. You know what they care about? Abortion rights, gay marriage, and liberals. To them, that’s where the focus should be; not on real tragedies happening to millions of people around the world, because that’s all part of...you know...“god’s plan”. That’s how psychotic religious people can be! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 1:09:54 GMT
A complete stranger when they meet one. It's cool when somebody hears a name shouted out and then repeats it, too. Not so cool when the gullible mistake the one for the other, though. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 31, 2018 1:42:02 GMT
It's (un)cool when people leap to irrational conclusions when there are far more likely ones. Easily faked signs and wonders are not cool, at least not for the general public. I've been over this before how it can be much more convincing to people who are closer to the those involved and have better information about what actually happened. One example I use is Akiane Kramarik. The general public can easily believe it is just a rather elaborate hoax, but her own mother would know whether or not it's a hoax. Of course a small child might really have her ability without the involvement of the "Holy Spirit" or whatever spiritual phenomena, but her testimony would be compelling nevertheless knowing it was not a hoax. I wasn't thinking just about hoaxes, but people also grossly underestimate how likely coincidences are. In any case, if something like the OP's video is a real thing ("The Holy Ghost can give someone a stranger's name") then this is a claim that should be scientifically testable and repeatable. The fact that it's not, and that, at best, all you have are isolated incidences (which you'd expect to happen by coincidence anyway), is telling. The null hypothesis is a pertinent issue here. I'd never heard of Akiane Kramarik. She seems to be one of those artists that claims to paint her visions. There have been others like her, not all of them have been religiously inclined, or of the same religion. I mention William Blake and Federico Fellini as two examples. |
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Post by goz on Mar 31, 2018 1:53:13 GMT
...and I mention drugs in this context! ( occasionally associated with mental illness)
I am not saying that people cannot have vivid visions that are translated to canvas or other art forms, just....God stuff can come in any of the above forms.
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Post by goz on Mar 31, 2018 1:55:11 GMT
Now if we could just get him to tell us the names and locations of those who are trafficking in humans it might be helpful. As internet atheists trolls go, you're certainly nearer to the bottom of the barrel. Cody, it seems that you have deserted this thread owing to the discovery of evidence against your ( and the protagonist in the video ) 's claims. Any comment or apology? |
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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 31, 2018 2:00:03 GMT
Easily faked signs and wonders are not cool, at least not for the general public. I've been over this before how it can be much more convincing to people who are closer to the those involved and have better information about what actually happened. One example I use is Akiane Kramarik. The general public can easily believe it is just a rather elaborate hoax, but her own mother would know whether or not it's a hoax. Of course a small child might really have her ability without the involvement of the "Holy Spirit" or whatever spiritual phenomena, but her testimony would be compelling nevertheless knowing it was not a hoax. I wasn't thinking just about hoaxes, but people also grossly underestimate how likely coincidences are. In any case, if something like the OP's video is a real thing ("The Holy Ghost can give someone a stranger's name") then this is a claim that should be scientifically testable and repeatable. The fact that it's not, and that, at best, all you have are isolated incidences (which you'd expect to happen by coincidence anyway), is telling. The null hypothesis is a pertinent issue here. I'd never heard of Akiane Kramarik. She seems to be one of those artists that claims to paint her visions. There have been others like her, not all of them have been religiously inclined, or of the same religion. I mention William Blake and Federico Fellini as two examples. You can drop the "science" charade. You aren't fooling anyone. Yes, it would appear that no god has bound himself to appear at the whim of any non-believers or for that matter at the whim of quite many believers. That does not mean he has not appeared ever for whatever special purposes. Maybe no god ever called you to help it because you are no help. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 31, 2018 2:16:08 GMT
I wasn't thinking just about hoaxes, but people also grossly underestimate how likely coincidences are. In any case, if something like the OP's video is a real thing ("The Holy Ghost can give someone a stranger's name") then this is a claim that should be scientifically testable and repeatable. The fact that it's not, and that, at best, all you have are isolated incidences (which you'd expect to happen by coincidence anyway), is telling. The null hypothesis is a pertinent issue here. I'd never heard of Akiane Kramarik. She seems to be one of those artists that claims to paint her visions. There have been others like her, not all of them have been religiously inclined, or of the same religion. I mention William Blake and Federico Fellini as two examples. You can drop the "science" charade. You aren't fooling anyone. Yes, it would appear that no god has bound himself to appear at the whim of any non-believers or for that matter at the whim of quite many believers. That does not mean he has not appeared ever for whatever special purposes. Maybe no god ever called you to help it because you are no help. What charade? Why in the world wouldn't the OP's claim be testable if true? And, further, your "God doesn't appear at the whim of believers/non-believers" is kinda debunked by Elijah and the Priests of Baal, and plenty of other stories where God appears and performs unmistakable miracles witnessed by thousands of people. Even if true, your "God doesn't appear at a whim" is a problem for you claim that God exists, because if true you can't distinguish between "God did it" and coincidence. |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 31, 2018 2:16:49 GMT
Yeah it's not like it could have been scripted or the guy was just humoring her or she overhead someone call him Kevin. That's totally riddiculous
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Post by lowtacks86 on Mar 31, 2018 2:19:43 GMT
I wasn't thinking just about hoaxes, but people also grossly underestimate how likely coincidences are. In any case, if something like the OP's video is a real thing ("The Holy Ghost can give someone a stranger's name") then this is a claim that should be scientifically testable and repeatable. The fact that it's not, and that, at best, all you have are isolated incidences (which you'd expect to happen by coincidence anyway), is telling. The null hypothesis is a pertinent issue here. I'd never heard of Akiane Kramarik. She seems to be one of those artists that claims to paint her visions. There have been others like her, not all of them have been religiously inclined, or of the same religion. I mention William Blake and Federico Fellini as two examples. You can drop the "science" charade. You aren't fooling anyone. Yes, it would appear that no god has bound himself to appear at the whim of any non-believers or for that matter at the whim of quite many believers. That does not mean he has not appeared ever for whatever special purposes. Maybe no god ever called you to help it because you are no help. So God just likes to play weird hide and seek games? Is he a kindergartner? |
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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 31, 2018 2:20:42 GMT
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Mar 31, 2018 2:26:44 GMT
10/10 1/10 On skillfully avoiding the question. Your text-ninja skills need work. |
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Post by Cody™ on Mar 31, 2018 9:37:11 GMT
A complete stranger when they meet one. Too funny. You should watch the video again and hear what I heard, which was a friend of 'Kevin' call out 'Hey c'mon Kevin', in the background! You might not have picked up the accent butt as an Australian I heard it absolutely clearly, as did the 'GodBotherer' who then claimed divine inspiration, just like any other charletan. 1.08/9 in the video and he turns around and laughs to acknowledge them. You're lying. He does not say "Kevin". I hear "Cmon" something.. but it doesn't sound anything like "Kevin". Besides don't you think the guy would have picked up on it if someone blurts his name out and 2 seconds later the lady claims she knows his name? I mean i know he's an Aussie but he still can't possibly be that dumb. |
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