Disney knows TLJ is crap? Apr 17, 2018 19:02:17 GMT via mobile
Post by Waxer-n-boil on Apr 17, 2018 19:02:17 GMT
No they didn't. Compare Rey's powers and it's nature and usage to both the Force and to Disney magic. You will find it's much closer to Disney magic than the Force.
More like, they were lucky Carol wasn't an A-Lister so they could get away with it. Most people didn't even realize Kamala was a Legacy character to begin with.
In other words... a load of bull excuses.
Not with top-tier characters.
Like I said, passing the torch has been done before.
Nearly, but compared to the over-the-top hatred the ST gets it ain't much of anything.
Bull crap! You've been whining about them, alleging they ruined the franchise of SW.
That's an absolute lie. Prequel haters have been so over-the-top that they sent death threats to George Lucas and Jake Lloyd. Some of them made a living off of hypercriticism of the prequels. Mr. Plinkett being the most notable.
They most certainly did not.
Nope. They shared the spotlight. Fact.
Yes they did. The fact that you don't know what sharing the spotlight is is your fault. I'm not responsible for your comprehension problems.
No, I posted that thread about "What do you Hate the most about the ST?" and you haven't posted anything about people who like the ST as a counter.[/quote]
Darned right. Which is far more credible than you and your mountain of posting history lies.
That's because aside from Rey fanatics screaming about how she is an untouchable, infallible character - and absurdly trying to use the SW lore and mythos to do it - there's been little else of substance.
That, and the occasional "Finn being a stooge and an elite Stormtrooper makes perfect sense!" Or "Kylo is not a Vader wannabe. He is a complex and conflicted character." Granted Adam Driver's acting is probably better than Hayden's, but the character acts like whiny, Darkside Anakin 2.0.
Uh, no. It was getting ripped to shreds from opening night.
Another lie! It never got any poor reception.
Nope! People were asking for the meaning or how that would work. The only criticism was some people wanting immediate supposition, while others debated about what the future supposition and meaning would be... a future that never came.
I Luke had been dead at the time that novel came out, it would've ended up pulped.[/quote]
I can only shake my head at your back-peddling, flip-flopping, and excuse making.
No, the mythos ended with ROTJ. So there was no way to harmonize with what came before.
Disney had the same opportunity to do the same thing in their rewrites.
If the mythos ends with ROTJ then that makes the sequel trilogy a reboot! But Disney has emphatically said that it is not.
This is what I mean by purposely ruining the mythos and lore of the previous SW.
And before you disagree, this same issue popped when Sony did the Andrew Garfield Spider-Man after the established onscreen canon of the Toby McGuire Spider-Man. Sony came out to the fanbase and told them it was a reboot.
But Disney just wanted to lie... (Hmmmm... you and Disney have a lot in common). They wanted to do a universe reboot but sucker OT fans out of their box office money by shoehorning in the OT characters. Then to rub salt in the wound, they gave them degrading characterizations in varying degrees to hi-light their own characters by contrast.
There's nothing to build on after ROTJ if you want new conflicts where things don't end happily ever after for the OT cast.
Nope. You make something different according to the rules of what it's built on. Simple...
Of course there is. It's been done in the EU: Palpatine clones, the Yuuzhan Vong... just to name a few.
Stop babbling that narrow minded, lying nonsense.
The reception Rey is all the proof I need. NOTHING is good enough to appease her haters.
...which is STILL a blatant lie you haven't proven.
Don't be a warrior princess channeling Disney magic. This is SW, not your latest Disney heroine animated movie!
Because they chose to make stories about new characters who weren't constantly overshadowed by Luke and the OT cast. And they chose not to make these new characters bumbling incompetents who need to be spoonfed everything by Luke and co.
#Because it meets the definition of fanfic under any franchise or genre. Fact.
OT fans just can't stand that.
OT fans who can't move on past ROTJ is silly, yes.
The OT cats weren't going to be around forever, deal with it.
Killing off major characters is not evidence of continuing a mythos. It has nothing to do with it.
They didn't fundamentally change anything, they just chose to not leave ROTJ as a Happily Ever After. And any continuation past ROTJ with new characters who were independent characters instead of bumbling sidekicks was going to violate the Mythos by your standards.
Not changing the laws and nature of it's universe is how you properly continue a mythos.
They were fine with them as long as they assumed they were going to be bumbling incompetent sidekicks.
Please! Spare me of parroting that lie that OT fans were predetermined to hate these new characters.
Inevitable, when the old cast were portrayed as infallible heroes.
So... it's better than doing something that they knew would piss off OT and other SW fans even more - degrading the biggest character (and partly degrading the 2nd or 3rd biggest) just to make your apex character look far better than them in comparison.
We don't know how Episode 9 will end. Maybe they WILL die.
Which has nothing to do with them needing to die to get out of the way of the next trilogy.
So was I, and most of the chatter was about how they figuring that the new characters wouldn't really be leads until Episode 9 and they were hoping the OT characters would be the real stars of the New Trilogy.
Nobody expected them to be stars in name only, especially OT fans who were following the promo closer than any else. I was there!
Just more rambling, lying, waffling, and back peddling!