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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2018 13:46:18 GMT
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Post by dazz on Apr 14, 2018 18:03:21 GMT
Thats not official Deb you scally wag, well ok Amaya is and damn that's bitter sweet I love her but I hate Nate...dammit.
As for Darvill well in 3 years they have failed to do anything good with him except Karaoke so don't get your hopes up Darvill will be inclined to believe Guggenheim praise of something being cool, most of the premises of the show are cool they are just handled so piss poor and shit shoddily it turns to kaka before our eyes, I mean Barry Obama and they killed that joke dead in seconds, same with the Nate's high again, only consistently funny stuff is Mick & Constantine and that's because their not in it that much therefor less chance of these chimps chumping it up like champs.
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Post by General Kenobi on Apr 14, 2018 18:45:33 GMT
Yeah, lot of cool ideas but poor execution. Which makes these some of the most frustrating shows of all time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 13:46:10 GMT
Thats not official Deb you scally wag, well ok Amaya is and damn that's bitter sweet I love her but I hate Nate...dammit. As for Darvill well in 3 years they have failed to do anything good with him except Karaoke so don't get your hopes up Darvill will be inclined to believe Guggenheim praise of something being cool, most of the premises of the show are cool they are just handled so piss poor and shit shoddily it turns to kaka before our eyes, I mean Barry Obama and they killed that joke dead in seconds, same with the Nate's high again, only consistently funny stuff is Mick & Constantine and that's because their not in it that much therefor less chance of these chimps chumping it up like champs.  Maybe Rip might not be official but it sounds like he is going to be back at some point and I bet he returns whether it is next season or the season after that and it just shows they aren't getting rid of them permanently like they claimed they were going to. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they find a way to bring Amaya back full time without destroying the timeline and they might clone her so there are two Amaya's and the other one will go back to the past.  I didn't mind Amaya but I would have preferred to have seen the other Vixen in the show 'cause she is more like the comic book version and has more powers and I don't understand why Amaya doesn't have the same powers as Mari and why she can't fly.  |
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Post by General Kenobi on Apr 16, 2018 16:37:52 GMT
Because reasons. I doubt there is an actual reason other than that's what the writers want.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Apr 16, 2018 16:44:22 GMT
Knock me over with a feather; I'm shocked....
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I could see old Amaya getting mixed up with the "legends" and something making her young again. That would be a plausible cheat to let her needed history unfold, but still put her back on the Waverider in fighting form. For some reason I like her better than the other Vixen introduced in the animated series and Arrow. Nate needs be blown out an airlock and fall into a black hole, never to be seen or heard from again.
The ambiguity and lack of real stakes (or body) in Rip's "final" scene, made it clear the door was open to his return.
I prefer the idea of bringing in the Rip from some other Earth, who is actually competent and everything the character should be from the comics.
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Post by dazz on Apr 16, 2018 23:15:46 GMT
Thats not official Deb you scally wag, well ok Amaya is and damn that's bitter sweet I love her but I hate Nate...dammit. As for Darvill well in 3 years they have failed to do anything good with him except Karaoke so don't get your hopes up Darvill will be inclined to believe Guggenheim praise of something being cool, most of the premises of the show are cool they are just handled so piss poor and shit shoddily it turns to kaka before our eyes, I mean Barry Obama and they killed that joke dead in seconds, same with the Nate's high again, only consistently funny stuff is Mick & Constantine and that's because their not in it that much therefor less chance of these chimps chumping it up like champs. Real world reasons, animation is just as cheap to make a character fly as it is to walk, maybe even cheaper as you don't need to animate walking and instead a still shot with a moving background works for flight, in live action it cost more so instead they keep her grounded.
In show it makes no fucking sense, shouldn't Amaya who should be more tapped into her power/heritage being she was raised in it/for it as opposed to Mari who wasn't iirc, it could have worked better if they simply made Amaya the ancestor of Mari but who only just got her totem so that's why she's less disciplined, then again I haven't seen Vixen so Mari maybe just as new to the totem herself in which case fuck knows, but having Amaya supposedly be a well versed hero only to then make her at times as big a dunce as the others is stupid, Nate being a dumb fuck makes sense he's still essentially a rookie and doesn't know/appreciate the world or stakes around him, he's still an annoying douche but it makes sense, Amaya however it doesn't it just looks like the Legends & Nate have eaten away at her sense and good judgement.
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Post by BexxyJ on Apr 17, 2018 13:58:30 GMT
Thats not official Deb you scally wag, well ok Amaya is and damn that's bitter sweet I love her but I hate Nate...dammit. As for Darvill well in 3 years they have failed to do anything good with him except Karaoke so don't get your hopes up Darvill will be inclined to believe Guggenheim praise of something being cool, most of the premises of the show are cool they are just handled so piss poor and shit shoddily it turns to kaka before our eyes, I mean Barry Obama and they killed that joke dead in seconds, same with the Nate's high again, only consistently funny stuff is Mick & Constantine and that's because their not in it that much therefor less chance of these chimps chumping it up like champs. What do you know, another person that hates Nate. I can't fucking stand him either. He is the most annoying character on any of these shows apart from Felicity and I wish somebody would kick him out of the Waverider so he got stranded in space with no air to breathe. I cheered so hard when Ray turned on him last week.  |
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Post by General Kenobi on Apr 17, 2018 21:05:59 GMT
For the life of me I cannot recall who Nate is. Guess my mind blocked that info in order to protect me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 12:53:41 GMT
Real world reasons, animation is just as cheap to make a character fly as it is to walk, maybe even cheaper as you don't need to animate walking and instead a still shot with a moving background works for flight, in live action it cost more so instead they keep her grounded.
In show it makes no fucking sense, shouldn't Amaya who should be more tapped into her power/heritage being she was raised in it/for it as opposed to Mari who wasn't iirc, it could have worked better if they simply made Amaya the ancestor of Mari but who only just got her totem so that's why she's less disciplined, then again I haven't seen Vixen so Mari maybe just as new to the totem herself in which case fuck knows, but having Amaya supposedly be a well versed hero only to then make her at times as big a dunce as the others is stupid, Nate being a dumb fuck makes sense he's still essentially a rookie and doesn't know/appreciate the world or stakes around him, he's still an annoying douche but it makes sense, Amaya however it doesn't it just looks like the Legends & Nate have eaten away at her sense and good judgement.
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Post by dazz on Apr 21, 2018 15:28:36 GMT
It's not so much about not wanting more than 1 character flying as they often showed Ray & Jax flying same in the crossovers they have no issue with 4 or more characters able to fly, it's just that they only have 1 super strength character outside of Vixen so why not focus on that?
Also every other flying character has other CG requiring abilities whilst they fly, so they have to use that for them a lot anyway, where s Amaya needs only 1 2nd of CG when she channels a new animal, Ray & Jax needed to simulate their light & heat blast as well as their propulsion methods, Supergirl uses it for her speed, heat vision, artic breathe & what not, also just how useful is Vixen's flight ability? surely she cant fly faster than Ray or Jax could she cant do anything whilst flying that's cool so it's again a why bother thing on LOT imo, where as in the Vixen show it's about her so I get the RW reason why they do it there but not on LOT.
Imo they should have just given Amaya an excuse like she's afraid of heights that's why she chooses not to use that ability, it would make for a fun one off episode to show she can do it she just chooses not to sort of thing and it appeases us nit picky little shits, well sort of we'll still point out how it makes no sense but I would give them a golf clap for the attempt atleast.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 11:39:59 GMT
It's not so much about not wanting more than 1 character flying as they often showed Ray & Jax flying same in the crossovers they have no issue with 4 or more characters able to fly, it's just that they only have 1 super strength character outside of Vixen so why not focus on that? Also every other flying character has other CG requiring abilities whilst they fly, so they have to use that for them a lot anyway, where s Amaya needs only 1 2nd of CG when she channels a new animal, Ray & Jax needed to simulate their light & heat blast as well as their propulsion methods, Supergirl uses it for her speed, heat vision, artic breathe & what not, also just how useful is Vixen's flight ability? surely she cant fly faster than Ray or Jax could she cant do anything whilst flying that's cool so it's again a why bother thing on LOT imo, where as in the Vixen show it's about her so I get the RW reason why they do it there but not on LOT. Imo they should have just given Amaya an excuse like she's afraid of heights that's why she chooses not to use that ability, it would make for a fun one off episode to show she can do it she just chooses not to sort of thing and it appeases us nit picky little shits, well sort of we'll still point out how it makes no sense but I would give them a golf clap for the attempt atleast.  |
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Post by stargazer1682 on May 26, 2018 17:03:59 GMT
That was so stupid to have Mick give up the fire totem. When they had him use it I thought, finally! I wanted to see some excuse to make his... Abilities? Contribution? Be sort of an internal power than carry around some device; and this made perfect sense. And then they tossed it aside for no reason...
Mick finding himself a legitimate totem bearer would have been a great way to delve into his character and flesh him out more.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 11:42:19 GMT
That was so stupid to have Mick give up the fire totem. When they had him use it I thought, finally! I wanted to see some excuse to make his... Abilities? Contribution? Be sort of an internal power than carry around some device; and this made perfect sense. And then they tossed it aside for no reason... Mick finding himself a legitimate totem bearer would have been a great way to delve into his character and flesh him out more.
While I am happy they are adding Constantine as a Season Regular I wish they had added another superhero too to even things out with Martin, Jaxx and Amaya no longer season regulars.  |
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Post by BexxyJ on Jun 6, 2018 13:00:12 GMT
For the life of me I cannot recall who Nate is. Guess my mind blocked that info in order to protect me. He's the annoying guy who always makes lame jokes and says lines out of movies and thinks he is funny. He needs to go like Felicity in Arrow. |
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Post by General Kenobi on Jun 6, 2018 13:02:58 GMT
Still drawing a blank. Doesn't help that you pretty much described most characters on the CW.  |
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Post by stargazer1682 on Jun 6, 2018 15:22:16 GMT
The shaved labradoodle who learned to talk.
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Post by BexxyJ on Jun 11, 2018 13:51:58 GMT
Still drawing a blank. Doesn't help that you pretty much described most characters on the CW. He turns into steel like that basketball player did in his superhero movie except he is a white guy now. |
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Post by General Kenobi on Jun 12, 2018 18:30:18 GMT
I think I know who you're talking about. Lumpy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 11:56:51 GMT
Still drawing a blank. Doesn't help that you pretty much described most characters on the CW. He turns into steel like that basketball player did in his superhero movie except he is a white guy now.  I am still not even sure why 'Steel' got a movie.  |
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