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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 19, 2018 15:47:48 GMT
By showing statistical facts. Remember, don't shoot the messenger. Of course, some movies by these 3 franchises haven't been released yet, so it will be updated.
Rotten Tomatoes average % MCU: 84% X-Men: 73% DCEU: 48%
Rotten Tomatoes average score MCU: 7.2 X-Men: 6.7 DCEU: 5.8
Rotten Tomatoes average audience score MCU: 83% X-Men: 78% DCEU: 72%
Opening weekend average (unadjusted for inflation) DCEU: $122 million MCU: $120 million X-Men: $81 million
Total domestic average (unadjusted for inflation) MCU: $330 million DCEU: $317 million X-Men: $204 million
Worldwide total average MCU: $780 million DCEU: $754 million X-Men: $499 million
So you may not like the MCU, but give credit where credit is due, and statistics show that MCU is king of CBMs.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2018 15:50:52 GMT
$ =/= quality
... derp.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 19, 2018 15:53:09 GMT
Thanks for posting those facts. However, the MCU haters will just say that those facts don't matter because the people that like MCU are stupid and immature and not sophisticated enough to like "art" like DCEU and X-Men. They will also accuse the critics of being bias and of accepting bribes from Disney.
They will also point out the completely irrelevant fact that Transformer movies also make a lot of money. That's one of their favorite go to's when their favorite films underperform at the box office.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 19, 2018 15:58:50 GMT
Thanks for posting those facts. However, the MCU haters will just say that those facts don't matter because the people that like MCU are stupid and immature and not sophisticated enough to like "art" like DCEU and X-Men. They will also accuse the critics of being bias and of accepting bribes from Disney. They will also point out the completely irrelevant fact that Transformer movies also make a lot of money. That's one of their favorite go to's when their favorite films underperform at the box office. Let's not forget the first couple of MCU movies weren't distributed by Disney. From 2008-2011, all MCU movies were distributed by Paramount, except for The Incredible Hulk, which was Universal.
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Post by summers8 on Apr 19, 2018 16:07:46 GMT
LOL...Rotten tomatoes.
nice to see there is about 3% of the mcu fans that still hold on to rotten tomatoes as evidence mcu is good.
rotten tomatoes rates gotg 2, iron man 3, avengers age of ultron as better than Road to perdition and gladiator right?
and they rated black panther higher than TDK, DOFP, Logan, BB, SIN CITY right? LMAO.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 19, 2018 16:11:17 GMT
LOL...Rotten tomatoes.nice to see there is about 3% of the mcu fans that still hold on to rotten tomatoes as evidence mcu is good. rotten tomatoes rates gotg 2, iron man 3, avengers age of ultron as better than Road to perdition and gladiator right? and they rated black panther higher than TDK, DOFP, Logan, BB, SIN CITY right? LMAO. Black Panther IS better than those movies.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2018 16:14:33 GMT
LOL...Rotten tomatoes.nice to see there is about 3% of the mcu fans that still hold on to rotten tomatoes as evidence mcu is good. rotten tomatoes rates gotg 2, iron man 3, avengers age of ultron as better than Road to perdition and gladiator right? and they rated black panther higher than TDK, DOFP, Logan, BB, SIN CITY right? LMAO. Black Panther IS better than those movies. lol
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 19, 2018 16:18:15 GMT
There's really no settling an argument like that.
If someone likes one franchise over another than that's their right.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2018 16:19:20 GMT
LOL...Rotten tomatoes.nice to see there is about 3% of the mcu fans that still hold on to rotten tomatoes as evidence mcu is good. rotten tomatoes rates gotg 2, iron man 3, avengers age of ultron as better than Road to perdition and gladiator right? and they rated black panther higher than TDK, DOFP, Logan, BB, SIN CITY right? LMAO. "Rotten Tomatoes: The Mantra of the Moron" should be their new slogan.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 19, 2018 16:25:13 GMT
There's really no settling an argument like that. If someone likes one franchise over another than that's their right. Of course it's their own right, but nobody can argue with a fact.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 19, 2018 16:29:48 GMT
There's really no settling an argument like that. If someone likes one franchise over another than that's their right. Yes, but they don't have to belittle the people who disagree with them. I love fantasy but I dislike Harry Potter but you don't see me on the Harry Potter board trying to tear the movies and their fans down.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2018 17:01:14 GMT
There's really no settling an argument like that. If someone likes one franchise over another than that's their right. Yes, but they don't have to belittle the people who disagree with them. I love fantasy but I dislike Harry Potter but you don't see me on the Harry Potter board trying to tear the movies and their fans down. So basically you used the pretext of calling for maturity to belittle Harry Potter fans.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 19, 2018 17:05:51 GMT
He started the post with the ratings then went into the box office averages.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 19, 2018 17:08:02 GMT
By showing statistical facts. Remember, don't shoot the messenger. Of course, some movies by these 3 franchises haven't been released yet, so it will be updated. Rotten Tomatoes average % MCU: 84% X-Men: 73% DCEU: 48% Rotten Tomatoes average score MCU: 7.2 X-Men: 6.7 DCEU: 5.8 Rotten Tomatoes average audience score MCU: 83% X-Men: 78% DCEU: 72% Opening weekend average (unadjusted for inflation) DCEU: $122 million MCU: $120 million X-Men: $81 million Total domestic average (unadjusted for inflation) MCU: $330 million DCEU: $317 million X-Men: $204 million Worldwide total average MCU: $780 million DCEU: $754 million X-Men: $499 million So you may not like the MCU, but give credit where credit is due, and statistics show that MCU is king of CBMs. Lost cause. If the X-men and the DCEU had better scores/averages than the MCU then they would use this. But since they don't Rotten Tomatoes doesn't count to them. Remember when Wonder Woman was the highest ranked movie on there? DC-Fan was showing that everyday in every post.
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Post by charzhino on Apr 19, 2018 17:10:50 GMT
There is NO validity about rotten tomatoes anymore. When crap like Last jedi and Ghostbusters get praised to high hill in fear or SJW backlash the integrity has gone from neutral reviewing.
And not only that, critics are scared they will be outta a job and MCU films are basically keeping the cinema industry afloat with the revenue they make. Doesnt take a genius to figure out why every MCU movie is thus given favourable reviews and high recommendations because families and kids will buy seats and merchandise. Disney dont care 1 bit about artistic value.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 19, 2018 17:13:48 GMT
There is NO validity about rotten tomatoes anymore. When crap like Last jedi and Ghostbusters get praised to high hill in fear or SJW backlash the integrity has gone from neutral reviewing. And not only that, critics are scared they will be outta a job and MCU films are basically keeping the cinema industry afloat with the revenue they make. Doesnt take a genius to figure out why every MCU movie is thus given favourable reviews and high recommendations because families and kids will buy seats and merchandise. Disney dont care 1 bit about artistic value. Exactly right. Box office means nothing and RT means even less. The only thing dumber than RT's idiotic "system" is that millions of people take it even remotely seriously.
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Post by charzhino on Apr 19, 2018 17:15:59 GMT
There is NO validity about rotten tomatoes anymore. When crap like Last jedi and Ghostbusters get praised to high hill in fear or SJW backlash the integrity has gone from neutral reviewing. And not only that, critics are scared they will be outta a job and MCU films are basically keeping the cinema industry afloat with the revenue they make. Doesnt take a genius to figure out why every MCU movie is thus given favourable reviews and high recommendations because families and kids will buy seats and merchandise. Disney dont care 1 bit about artistic value. Exactly right. Box office means nothing and RT means even less. The only thing dumber than RT's idiotic "system" is that millions of people take it even remotely seriously. Comic book movies, as a result of Disney, post 2010 basically went the way of the WWE. From the edgy, attitude-era originality for mature audiences, to the current kiddyfied, family friendly PG garbage.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 19, 2018 17:17:55 GMT
There is NO validity about rotten tomatoes anymore. When crap like Last jedi and Ghostbusters get praised to high hill in fear or SJW backlash the integrity has gone from neutral reviewing. And not only that, critics are scared they will be outta a job and MCU films are basically keeping the cinema industry afloat with the revenue they make. Doesnt take a genius to figure out why every MCU movie is thus given favourable reviews and high recommendations because families and kids will buy seats and merchandise. Disney dont care 1 bit about artistic value. Exactly right. Box office means nothing and RT means even less. The only thing dumber than RT's idiotic "system" is that millions of people take it even remotely seriously. Except box office does mean a lot to studios. It represents what people would pay to see in theaters, and right now that's MCU and Star Wars. It's not Disney's fault that other studios are releasing crap. Yes, filmmaking is an art, but it's also a business.
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Post by charzhino on Apr 19, 2018 17:22:06 GMT
Exactly right. Box office means nothing and RT means even less. The only thing dumber than RT's idiotic "system" is that millions of people take it even remotely seriously. Except box office does mean a lot to studios. It represents what people would pay to see in theaters, and right now that's MCU and Star Wars. It's not Disney's fault that other studios are releasing crap. Yes, filmmaking is an art, but it's also a business. Because mass audiences dont know anything about film. They only go to watch 5 movies a year, a couple of MCU films, a fast & furious along with Star Wars and Jurassic World. And all those movies make a killing because they cater to the most average viewer, simplifying stories/dialogue with excess Cgi action. Whilst more artistic projects like Blade Runner 2049 and Annhilation get barely anything.
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 19, 2018 17:25:10 GMT
There is NO validity about rotten tomatoes anymore. When crap like Last jedi and Ghostbusters get praised to high hill in fear or SJW backlash the integrity has gone from neutral reviewing. And not only that, critics are scared they will be outta a job and MCU films are basically keeping the cinema industry afloat with the revenue they make. Doesnt take a genius to figure out why every MCU movie is thus given favourable reviews and high recommendations because families and kids will buy seats and merchandise. Disney dont care 1 bit about artistic value. RT works on a binary system that's basically "best movie ever" and "worst movie ever". If 9 out of 10 people give a movie "best movie ever", it has a 90% rating. There is no in between nuance to the rating. The main reason that people hated the recent Ghostbusters was that it wasn't the old Ghostbusters (I've never seen the new one). The critics probably looked at it as it's own movie. Same for The Last Jedi.
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