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Post by blockbusted on Apr 19, 2018 18:25:39 GMT
There is NO validity about rotten tomatoes anymore. When crap like Last jedi and Ghostbusters get praised to high hill in fear or SJW backlash the integrity has gone from neutral reviewing. And not only that, critics are scared they will be outta a job and MCU films are basically keeping the cinema industry afloat with the revenue they make. Doesnt take a genius to figure out why every MCU movie is thus given favourable reviews and high recommendations because families and kids will buy seats and merchandise. Disney dont care 1 bit about artistic value. Tell that to ‘A Wrinkle in Time’...
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 19, 2018 18:27:35 GMT
I enjoy them all. I think they've all come out with some good movies and then weaker ones though you'd be kidding yourself if you didn't acknowledge the balance isn't exactly in DC's favour. Superhero fans are damn lucky that they've made all these movies and they've still been going strong since 2000. They're spoilt really. In the 90's you had a few Batman movies which ranged from good to awful and Blade and aside from that you had Steel, the Justice League TV movie, a Fantastic Four movie that was so bad it didn't release and a straight to video Captain America movie. Now you've got everything from Avengers and Justice League to Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy and they're actually good movies too. Some are dark, light, serious, comedies, R rated, PG-13, grounded, fantastical etc which is all good too because if they didn't vary then people have grown tired of the same thing years ago. I knew the balance wouldn't be in the DCEU's favor, but at least they have Wonder Woman to cheer on, and if you want to go outside the DCEU, they have TDK trilogy, arguably the greatest superhero trilogy ever.
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Post by blockbusted on Apr 19, 2018 18:52:12 GMT
I enjoy them all. I think they've all come out with some good movies and then weaker ones though you'd be kidding yourself if you didn't acknowledge the balance isn't exactly in DC's favour. Superhero fans are damn lucky that they've made all these movies and they've still been going strong since 2000. They're spoilt really. In the 90's you had a few Batman movies which ranged from good to awful and Blade and aside from that you had Steel, the Justice League TV movie, a Fantastic Four movie that was so bad it didn't release and a straight to video Captain America movie. Now you've got everything from Avengers and Justice League to Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy and they're actually good movies too. Some are dark, light, serious, comedies, R rated, PG-13, grounded, fantastical etc which is all good too because if they didn't vary then people have grown tired of the same thing years ago. I knew the balance wouldn't be in the DCEU's favor, but at least they have Wonder Woman to cheer on, and if you want to go outside the DCEU, they have TDK trilogy, arguably the greatest superhero trilogy ever. And shouldn’t we tell that char-dude that ‘Ghostbusters: Answer the Call’ had a hostile environment for a proper film criticism because of Sony?
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 19, 2018 18:57:46 GMT
LOL...Rotten tomatoes.nice to see there is about 3% of the mcu fans that still hold on to rotten tomatoes as evidence mcu is good. rotten tomatoes rates gotg 2, iron man 3, avengers age of ultron as better than Road to perdition and gladiator right? and they rated black panther higher than TDK, DOFP, Logan, BB, SIN CITY right? LMAO. Why, what metric would you prefer to use? They want to use any metric that favors their favorites at any given time. So mass audience sees TDK = mass audiences are smart and sophisticated Mass audience sees The Avengers = mass audiences is stupid and unsophisticated. Critics like Avengers = critics are biased and liars Critics like TDK = critics are the arbiters of what is art.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 19, 2018 19:08:59 GMT
Why, what metric would you prefer to use? They want to use any metric that favors their favorites at any given time. So mass audience sees TDK = mass audiences are smart and sophisticated Mass audience sees The Avengers = mass audiences is stupid and unsophisticated. Critics like Avengers = critics are biased and liars Critics like TDK = critics are the arbiters of what is art. Great call. And like most people, I love both. But that's the thing about judging people on film opinions. It only works when you disagree with that person. Anytime someone criticizes me (not the film-- me, for having an opinion) for enjoying a film they didn't, I imagine how easy it would be to find a movie both of us enjoyed. It makes me chuckle every time.
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Post by damngumby on Apr 19, 2018 19:38:23 GMT
So you may not like the MCU, but give credit where credit is due, and statistics show that MCU is king of CBMs. For something so subjective, that's about as objective as we're likely to get. If anyone can come up with a better objective metric, please, share it. ... and keep in mind that your personal opinion means squat. If you can't offer a better metric, and your only role in this thread is to whine about this one, then perhaps you should just zip it.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 19, 2018 19:41:36 GMT
So you may not like the MCU, but give credit where credit is due, and statistics show that MCU is king of CBMs. For something so subjective, that's about as objective as we're likely to get. If anyone can come up with a better objective metric, please, share it. ... and keep in mind that your personal opinion means squat. If you can't offer a better metric, and your only role in this thread is to whine about this one, then perhaps you should just zip it. It's funny how some people here can claim that a collective average of critical scores, audience scores and BO numbers are an invalid measure of a movie's quality yet somehow think their own personal opinion is a better metric. People sure can be full of themselves.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 19, 2018 19:45:07 GMT
For something so subjective, that's about as objective as we're likely to get. If anyone can come up with a better objective metric, please, share it. ... and keep in mind that your personal opinion means squat. If you can't offer a better metric, and your only role in this thread is to whine about this one, then perhaps you should just zip it. It's funny how some people here can claim that a collective average of critical scores, audience scores and BO numbers are an invalid measure of a movie's quality yet somehow think their own personal opinion is a better metric. People sure can be full of themselves. Another metric we could use in the cinemascore. I wonder who comes out on top with that one.
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Post by damngumby on Apr 19, 2018 20:06:34 GMT
Another metric we could use in the cinemascore. I wonder who comes out on top with that one. Hmmm ... let me guess. Cinemascore is invalid! Because, uh ... reasons.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 19, 2018 20:54:35 GMT
It's funny how some people here can claim that a collective average of critical scores, audience scores and BO numbers are an invalid measure of a movie's quality yet somehow think their own personal opinion is a better metric. People sure can be full of themselves. Another metric we could use in the cinemascore. I wonder who comes out on top with that one. Cinemascore average MCU: A X-Men: B+ DCEU: B+
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Post by ThatGuy on Apr 19, 2018 21:07:40 GMT
There is NO validity about rotten tomatoes anymore. When crap like Last jedi and Ghostbusters get praised to high hill in fear or SJW backlash the integrity has gone from neutral reviewing. And not only that, critics are scared they will be outta a job and MCU films are basically keeping the cinema industry afloat with the revenue they make. Doesnt take a genius to figure out why every MCU movie is thus given favourable reviews and high recommendations because families and kids will buy seats and merchandise. Disney dont care 1 bit about artistic value. Tell that to ‘A Wrinkle in Time’... And that movie checks off almost the entire list.
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Post by blockbusted on Apr 19, 2018 21:25:54 GMT
Tell that to ‘A Wrinkle in Time’... And that movie checks off almost the entire list. What do you mean by that?
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 20, 2018 2:24:38 GMT
Yes, but they don't have to belittle the people who disagree with them. I love fantasy but I dislike Harry Potter but you don't see me on the Harry Potter board trying to tear the movies and their fans down. I agree. Which is why I've ask countless times if we could lay off the personal insults. I made a thread calling for a truck and it unfortunately turned into another fight thread with me being called a faggot at the end of it. And you wanna know who started the fights? The usual Marvel and DC suspects. I don't remember that thread. Which thread was that and who were the usual suspects who started the fights?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 20, 2018 8:56:46 GMT
I agree. Which is why I've ask countless times if we could lay off the personal insults. I made a thread calling for a truck and it unfortunately turned into another fight thread with me being called a faggot at the end of it. And you wanna know who started the fights? The usual Marvel and DC suspects. I don't remember that thread. Which thread was that and who were the usual suspects who started the fights? It was the "Why must we fight" thread. Scabs locked it when I asked him too. I've made it months ago, possibly a year. The usual suspects? Who do you think? Who are the fanboys, both Marvel and DC, that always derail a topic into a fight thread?
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Post by thenewnexus on Apr 20, 2018 9:31:50 GMT
Most mcu movies are comedies
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 20, 2018 14:23:17 GMT
Most mcu movies are comedies Technically, they are action, adventure, scifi with comedic elements just like comic books used to be when they actually sold in large numbers. Action and comedy go together very well and produces some of the greatest movies ever. The Adventures of Robin Hood The Dirty Dozen Indiana Jones Star Wars Die Hard Lethal Weapon John Ford's Cavalry Trilogy Rio Bravo El Dorado Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid Mr. Roberts (comedy drama) Even Casablanca and Gone with the Wind have large amounts of humor. Quentin Tarantino says that all of his movies are comedies So to quote another great movie "Lighten up Francis."
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Post by damngumby on Apr 20, 2018 14:58:18 GMT
It was the "Why must we fight" thread. Scabs locked it when I asked him too. I've made it months ago, possibly a year. The usual suspects? Who do you think? Who are the fanboys, both Marvel and DC, that always derail a topic into a fight thread? T The primary instigators were ... DC-Fan Tristan Incarnate weirdraptor primeone summers8 coldenhaulfield charzhino There were a few others, but it didn't look like they were trying to start a shit-show. I believe one of those guys is a MCU fan ... and he has left the forum. All the combative MCU-haters remain.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 20, 2018 16:22:10 GMT
It was the "Why must we fight" thread. Scabs locked it when I asked him too. I've made it months ago, possibly a year. The usual suspects? Who do you think? Who are the fanboys, both Marvel and DC, that always derail a topic into a fight thread? T The primary instigators were ... DC-Fan Tristan Incarnate weirdraptor primeone summers8 coldenhaulfield charzhino There were a few others, but it didn't look like they were trying to start a shit-show. I believe one of those guys is a MCU fan ... and he has left the forum. All the combative MCU-haters remain. lol @ your list. Where's formersamhmd? Where's ArfArf? Where's King Kong Bandwagon? And so on.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 20, 2018 16:30:41 GMT
Most mcu movies are comedies Having humor doesn't make them comedies, humor is a natural aspect of life and creeps in with most films no matter how tiny. If most MCU movies are comedies because they have some jokes then you might as well call Austin Powers and Anchorman dramas because they have one or two moments which are not totally played for laughs.
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Post by damngumby on Apr 20, 2018 17:09:45 GMT
The primary instigators were ... DC-Fan Tristan Incarnate weirdraptor primeone summers8 coldenhaulfield charzhino There were a few others, but it didn't look like they were trying to start a shit-show. I believe one of those guys is a MCU fan ... and he has left the forum. All the combative MCU-haters remain. lol @ your list. Where's formersamhmd ? Where's ArfArf? Where's King Kong Bandwagon? And so on.lol @ your list. Where's formersamhmd? Where's ArfArf? Where's King Kong Bandwagon? And so on. I listed the folks that were doing most of the insulting in that thread. formersamhmd wasn't one of them. There was no ArfArf in that thread. There was no King Kong Bandwagon in that thread. I hope that clears it up for you.
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