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Post by Tristan's Journal on Apr 20, 2018 20:28:58 GMT
The only reliably indicator for me are artistic awards: with B-Movie franchises, only the really, really good movies get them because they are generally reviled by the elite and thinking audience. And nobody ever claimed that the Oscars were paid and corrupt, right. So, let's put this to a test folks:
- Like Star Wars, first movie alone got 10 Oscar noms, & took 6 home. - Like LotR too many to count. - Like Star Trek. - And even the much maligned DCEU got one after 4 films, also TDK won one and was the reason the nominations were changed, Superman too. - Logan was the first one to get a script nod, not bad for such a B-movie genre film.
But poor MCU? After 19 films, got nothing, like nada, zero, null, raccoon fart. But it's in good company with franchises like Twilight, Transformers or 12 Shades of Grey.
I think this says everything. QED - I have proven.
Scabab please could you kindly LOCK the thread?
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 20, 2018 20:43:24 GMT
The only reliably indicator for me are artistic awards: with B-Movie franchises, only the really, really good movies get them because they are generally reviled by the elite and thinking audience. And nobody ever claimed that the Oscars were paid and corrupt, right. So, let's put this to a test folks: - Like Star Wars, first movie alone got 10 Oscar noms, & took 6 home. - Like LotR too many to count. - Like Star Trek. - And even the much maligned DCEU got one after 4 films, also TDK won one and was the reason the nominations were changed, Superman too. - Logan was the first one to get a script nod, not bad for such a B-movie genre film. But poor MCU? After 19 films, got nothing, like nada, zero, null, raccoon fart. But it's in good company with franchises like Twilight, Transformers or 12 Shades of Grey. I think this says everything. QED - I have proven. Scabab please could you kindly LOCK the thread? Now why would you want this thread locked?
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Apr 20, 2018 20:52:51 GMT
The only reliably indicator for me are artistic awards: with B-Movie franchises, only the really, really good movies get them because they are generally reviled by the elite and thinking audience. And nobody ever claimed that the Oscars were paid and corrupt, right. So, let's put this to a test folks: - Like Star Wars, first movie alone got 10 Oscar noms, & took 6 home. - Like LotR too many to count. - Like Star Trek. - And even the much maligned DCEU got one after 4 films, also TDK won one and was the reason the nominations were changed, Superman too. - Logan was the first one to get a script nod, not bad for such a B-movie genre film. But poor MCU? After 19 films, got nothing, like nada, zero, null, raccoon fart. But it's in good company with franchises like Twilight, Transformers or 12 Shades of Grey. I think this says everything. QED - I have proven. Scabab please could you kindly LOCK the thread? Now why would you want this thread locked? Now why would you not work on your reading comprehension? I spelled it out clearly: QED - I had proven. There is nothing else to say about this topic after my stunningly loaded assessment, and all that is uttered must only seem obtuse and hollow. Like CBMs after the TDK, just a commercial afterthought without merit. Scabab, I summon thee, would you do the honors as is thy job?
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 20, 2018 20:56:42 GMT
Now why would you want this thread locked? Now why would you not work on your reading comprehension? I spelled it out clearly: QED - I had proven. There is nothing else to say about this topic after my stunningly loaded assessment, and all that is uttered must only seem obtuse and hollow. Like CBMs after the TDK, just a commercial afterthought without merit. Scabab, I summon thee, would you do the honors as is thy job? Ah... you're being sarcastic. Gotcha. For a moment there I thought you actually believed your opinion was somehow more valid than others in this argument.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 20, 2018 20:56:55 GMT
The only reliably indicator for me are artistic awards: with B-Movie franchises, only the really, really good movies get them because they are generally reviled by the elite and thinking audience. And nobody ever claimed that the Oscars were paid and corrupt, right. So, let's put this to a test folks: - Like Star Wars, first movie alone got 10 Oscar noms, & took 6 home. - Like LotR too many to count. - Like Star Trek. - And even the much maligned DCEU got one after 4 films, also TDK won one and was the reason the nominations were changed, Superman too. - Logan was the first one to get a script nod, not bad for such a B-movie genre film. But poor MCU? After 19 films, got nothing, like nada, zero, null, raccoon fart. But it's in good company with franchises like Twilight, Transformers or 12 Shades of Grey. I think this says everything. QED - I have proven. Scabab please could you kindly LOCK the thread? See, I don't take awards very seriously. Going by your logic, the DCEU is on the same level as the Godfather trilogy.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Apr 20, 2018 21:15:08 GMT
Having humor doesn't make them comedies, humor is a natural aspect of life and creeps in with most films no matter how tiny. If most MCU movies are comedies because they have some jokes then you might as well call Austin Powers and Anchorman dramas because they have one or two moments which are not totally played for laughs. Most mcu movies are pretty much equal to anchorman and Austin Powers,but powrrs and anchorman are funny. MCU has forced unfunny hunor,villians being beat by dancing and fights that take place on toy train sets No they aren't, most of the humor in the MCU is reactionary to the action there are no scenes in the MCU that are designed to illicit laughter in the same sense as the "Who does number-two work for?!" scene from Austin Powers or the over-the-top battle sequences from Anchorman 1 and 2. The humor in most MCU movies is more in tune with every other action-adventure film you'll find on the marketplace both old and new. For reference are some quotes... "You won't kill me." Oh yeah, why not?" "Because you're a policeman. There are rules for policemen." "Yeah. That's what my captain keeps telling me." "Who are you then?" "Just a fly in the ointment, Hans. The monkey in the wrench. The pain in the ass." "God hates me. That's what it is. " "Hate him back; it works for me." "Sorry, didn't mean to scare you." "The only thing that scares me are your manners." "Well if it ain't my little buddy Beni, I'm gonna kill you." "Think of my children." "You don't have any children." "...Someday I might." "Jayne, your mouth is talking. You might wanna look to that." "I swear by my pretty floral bonnet, I will end you." "I live my life a quarter mile at a time." "That was reckess, that was stupid, and that was dangerous. I'm tellin' mommy..." "You found me beautiful once." "Honey, you got real ugly." "I'm with the FBI - uh, let's talk music - are you a big fan of the Elton John song 'Rocket Man'?" "I don't like soft-ass shit." "Oh. Well, I only bring it up because, uh, it's you. You're the Rocket Man." Where are these lines from? If your answer is "lame, forced MCU movie humor" then here's a big twist reveal for you - *none* of these are from any MCU movie. They're from Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, The Rock, Fast and Furious, Bad Boys, Army of Darkness, and Firefly/Serenity. As for the whole "villains being beat by dancing" dude really? We've been over this a dozen times already - Ronan. Was. Not. Defeated. By. Dancing. The train set fight was to show how small the participants of it were, for pete's sake it's called ANT-MAN, genius. Geez, you're not one to like fun popcorn fare are you?
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Post by damngumby on Apr 20, 2018 22:02:35 GMT
Not part of the discussion. See title of thread. See above. See above. See above. See above. Ah, finally ... Are you prepared to proclaim Suicide Squad the cream of the DCEU crop? The hair and make-up was top notch! And rightly so. It was the most unsuperhero-like superhero movie of the whole bunch. Maybe this year will be the year the MCU finally gets that coveted hair & make-up award. But since you’re counting Oscar nominations, the MCU has 9. Sorry. Try again.
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Post by sostie on Apr 20, 2018 22:27:10 GMT
The only reliably indicator for me are artistic awards: with B-Movie franchises, only the really, really good movies get them because they are generally reviled by the elite and thinking audience. And nobody ever claimed that the Oscars were paid and corrupt, right. So, let's put this to a test folks: - Like Star Wars, first movie alone got 10 Oscar noms, & took 6 home. - Like LotR too many to count. - Like Star Trek. - And even the much maligned DCEU got one after 4 films, also TDK won one and was the reason the nominations were changed, Superman too. - Logan was the first one to get a script nod, not bad for such a B-movie genre film. But poor MCU? After 19 films, got nothing, like nada, zero, null, raccoon fart. But it's in good company with franchises like Twilight, Transformers or 12 Shades of Grey. I think this says everything. QED - I have proven. Scabab please could you kindly LOCK the thread? So Iron Man got more Oscar noms than Revenge Of The Sith..so is therefore better? Transformers got more than Sith as well. Transformers franchise has more Oscar nominations and as many wins as DCEU And who can't go along with the idea that Suicide Squad is better than the likes of Once Upon A Time In America, The Shining, The King Of Comedy, Reservoir Dogs, Zodiac, Invasion of The Body Snatchers, The Big Lebowski, King Kong because they got less nominations.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 20, 2018 22:32:17 GMT
The only reliably indicator for me are artistic awards: with B-Movie franchises, only the really, really good movies get them because they are generally reviled by the elite and thinking audience. And nobody ever claimed that the Oscars were paid and corrupt, right. So, let's put this to a test folks: - Like Star Wars, first movie alone got 10 Oscar noms, & took 6 home. - Like LotR too many to count. - Like Star Trek. - And even the much maligned DCEU got one after 4 films, also TDK won one and was the reason the nominations were changed, Superman too. - Logan was the first one to get a script nod, not bad for such a B-movie genre film. But poor MCU? After 19 films, got nothing, like nada, zero, null, raccoon fart. But it's in good company with franchises like Twilight, Transformers or 12 Shades of Grey. I think this says everything. QED - I have proven. Scabab please could you kindly LOCK the thread? So Iron Man got more Oscar noms than Revenge Of The Sith..so is therefore better? Transformers got more than Sith as well. Transformers franchise has more Oscar nominations and as many wins as DCEU And who can't go along with the idea that Suicide Squad is better than the likes of Once Upon A Time In America, The Shining, The King Of Comedy, Reservoir Dogs, Zodiac, Invasion of The Body Snatchers, The Big Lebowski, King Kong because they got less nominations. Or that SS, being the only one with an Oscar, automatically makes it the best DCEU movie yet.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 20, 2018 23:30:18 GMT
I'm not planning on doxxing anybody. That's a relief. Presumably, you're going to have me "dealt with in due time", by some other means. Hopefully, it won't get you banned. And you'll be able to provide a quote where I defend the doxxers. News-flash Ace, wanting to boot DC-Fraud along with the doxxers is not "defending" the doxxers. If you've got a better term for the individual who rags on the MCU continuously (like you), I'm open to suggestions. Well then, you can steer me to some of your well thought out critiques, Mr Ebert. Most of your post are of the two sentence drive-by variety, spewing vitriol and little else. ... There was that one racist rant you penned about Black Panther. That was more than two sentences. Though, it's probably something you'd rather folks forget. Aw darn. You can't seem to get through a single post without revealing your true self. Ahaha, it's like formersamhmd never left. Hilarious.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 20, 2018 23:32:19 GMT
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Apr 21, 2018 1:15:38 GMT
The only reliably indicator for me are artistic awards: with B-Movie franchises, only the really, really good movies get them because they are generally reviled by the elite and thinking audience. And nobody ever claimed that the Oscars were paid and corrupt, right. So, let's put this to a test folks: - Like Star Wars, first movie alone got 10 Oscar noms, & took 6 home. - Like LotR too many to count. - Like Star Trek. - And even the much maligned DCEU got one after 4 films, also TDK won one and was the reason the nominations were changed, Superman too. - Logan was the first one to get a script nod, not bad for such a B-movie genre film. But poor MCU? After 19 films, got nothing, like nada, zero, null, raccoon fart. But it's in good company with franchises like Twilight, Transformers or 12 Shades of Grey. I think this says everything. QED - I have proven. Scabab please could you kindly LOCK the thread? What is funny about your argument is that if the MCU had won more awards than the others you would say awards are irrelevant.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Apr 21, 2018 1:48:27 GMT
The only reliably indicator for me are artistic awards: with B-Movie franchises, only the really, really good movies get them because they are generally reviled by the elite and thinking audience. And nobody ever claimed that the Oscars were paid and corrupt, right. So, let's put this to a test folks: - Like Star Wars, first movie alone got 10 Oscar noms, & took 6 home. - Like LotR too many to count. - Like Star Trek. - And even the much maligned DCEU got one after 4 films, also TDK won one and was the reason the nominations were changed, Superman too. - Logan was the first one to get a script nod, not bad for such a B-movie genre film. But poor MCU? After 19 films, got nothing, like nada, zero, null, raccoon fart. But it's in good company with franchises like Twilight, Transformers or 12 Shades of Grey. I think this says everything. QED - I have proven. Scabab please could you kindly LOCK the thread? What is funny about your argument is that if the MCU had won more awards than the others you would say awards are irrelevant. How about this, then: the characters are D-listers, the movies will be forgotten in the long run, and it's an insufferable "new money" fandom with an inferiority complex so sad it's hilarious. And here's a statistic: that's 100% true now and will be 100% true ten years from now. And now a dollar figure: $0.00, the amount of money the smartest people with the best taste plan on spending on McMarvel garbage going forward. There. You good?
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Apr 21, 2018 1:54:48 GMT
What is funny about your argument is that if the MCU had won more awards than the others you would say awards are irrelevant. How about this, then: the characters are D-listers, the movies will be forgotten in the long run, and it's an insufferable "new money" fandom with an inferiority complex so sad it's hilarious. And here's a statistic: that's 100% true now and will be 100% true ten years from now. And now a dollar figure: $0.00, the amount of money the smartest people with the best taste plan on spending on McMarvel garbage going forward. There. You good? I knew you had something against the MCU. It’s pretty obvious since you click like on literally every post that says anything negative about it even if it’s about movies you haven’t even seen like you’ve got some hate-boner for it or something. If MCU is such garbage, then why is the board about it the board you’re the most active on? That doesn’t make much sense.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 21, 2018 3:20:35 GMT
What is funny about your argument is that if the MCU had won more awards than the others you would say awards are irrelevant. How about this, then: the characters are D-listers, the movies will be forgotten in the long run, and it's an insufferable "new money" fandom with an inferiority complex so sad it's hilarious. And here's a statistic: that's 100% true now and will be 100% true ten years from now. And now a dollar figure: $0.00, the amount of money the smartest people with the best taste plan on spending on McMarvel garbage going forward. There. You good? Doubtful they will be forgotten as to this day, people are still flocking to see these movies. In fact, Marvel Studios made these D-lister characters on par with Batman and Superman - unforgettable.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 21, 2018 4:33:07 GMT
I don't remember that thread. Which thread was that and who were the usual suspects who started the fights? It was the "Why must we fight" thread. Scabs locked it when I asked him too. I've made it months ago, possibly a year. OK, I thought you were referring to a recent thread started this week, but I see that you're referring to this old thread: Why must we fight?Well, MCU fans say DC fans started it (which is false) and DC fans say MCU fans started it. I'm not going to re-hash that argument here. But I'll just point out that there's a board on this forum called "Arrow" for discussion on all the DC TV shows (Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow, Black Lightning, Krypton, Titans): Arrow. The Arrow board isn't flooded with arguments and bait threads like on the DCEU or MCU boards here. Why do you think that is? Could it be that the Arrow board isn't flooded with arguments and bait threads because MCU fans haven't stormed the Arrow board like they've done on the DCEU and MCU boards here?
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 21, 2018 4:35:03 GMT
It was the "Why must we fight" thread. Scabs locked it when I asked him too. I've made it months ago, possibly a year. OK, I thought you were referring to a recent thread started this week, but I see that you're referring to this old thread: Why must we fight?Well, MCU fans say DC fans started it (which is false) and DC fans say MCU fans started it. I'm not going to re-hash that argument here. But I'll just point out that there's a board on this forum called "Arrow" for discussion on all the DC TV shows (Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow, Black Lightning, Krypton, Titans): Arrow. The Arrow board isn't flooded with arguments and bait threads like on the DCEU or MCU boards here. Why do you think that is? Could it be that the Arrow board isn't flooded with arguments and bait threads because MCU fans haven't stormed the Arrow board like they've done on the DCEU and MCU boards here? The DCEU board isn't flooded by trolls either. Maybe just one or two, and most of them are now banned.
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Post by DC-Fan on Apr 21, 2018 4:40:59 GMT
OK, I thought you were referring to a recent thread started this week, but I see that you're referring to this old thread: Why must we fight?Well, MCU fans say DC fans started it (which is false) and DC fans say MCU fans started it. I'm not going to re-hash that argument here. But I'll just point out that there's a board on this forum called "Arrow" for discussion on all the DC TV shows (Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow, Black Lightning, Krypton, Titans): Arrow. The Arrow board isn't flooded with arguments and bait threads like on the DCEU or MCU boards here. Why do you think that is? Could it be that the Arrow board isn't flooded with arguments and bait threads because MCU fans haven't stormed the Arrow board like they've done on the DCEU and MCU boards here? The DCEU board isn't flooded by trolls either. Yes, it is. A few months ago, I started a thread on the DCEU board and posted a link to an article about Wonder Woman getting nominated for Best Theatrical Motion Picture by the PGA. I didn't write anything else on that post other than the link to the article. Yet MCU fans turned it into another MCU vs DC thread and starting ripping into me for simply starting a thread on the DCEU board about a DCEU movie getting nominated for a prestigious award.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Apr 21, 2018 4:59:04 GMT
The DCEU board isn't flooded by trolls either. A few months ago Exactly.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 21, 2018 5:06:41 GMT
The DCEU board isn't flooded by trolls either. Yes, it is. A few months ago, I started a thread on the DCEU board and posted a link to an article about Wonder Woman getting nominated for Best Theatrical Motion Picture by the PGA. I didn't write anything else on that post other than the link to the article. Yet MCU fans turned it into another MCU vs DC thread and starting ripping into me for simply starting a thread on the DCEU board about a DCEU movie getting nominated for a prestigious award. Your thread getting criticized is not the same thing as the entire board being trolled.
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