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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 19, 2018 16:28:06 GMT
Well, Admin did say to use it or lose it… So what are your favorite episodes? This was a fun show in its first few seasons before Grant left, when it began indulging in soap-operatics (complete with its own Abbott and Costello, that atrocious comedy duo “Steve and Tango”). I wouldn’t be at all surprised to hear that they faked ghostly material in the later seasons, but I would be surprised if they did in the early seasons, in which they were (wonder of wonders!) fairly skeptical and never exactly said “it’s a ghost”; if they found something they couldn’t explain, they’d merely say that they couldn’t explain it. Were they more willing to accept the paranormal than, say, Joe Nickell? Of course, with a title like Ghost Hunters. Were they blindly willing to accept the paranormal? I don’t think so, though some skeptics would be rigid and absolutist (“if you even think for a second that it could be a ghost, you’re a moron!”) about it. Anyhoo, favorite episodes… I never liked the big “name haunted locations” (e.g., the Stanley Hotel, Eastern State Penitentiary, Gettysburg, Lizzie Borden House), where the whole enterprise, with obvious scripted dialogue, came off as impossibly goofy. There was an excellent early episode with noises (and footprints?) in a locked room, and a door closing on its own, that I really enjoyed—I think it was a private home. Anyone know this one? St. Augustine Lighthouse is a fan favorite, and it’s an excellent episode, with that claustrophobic space and the shadow running up the stairs. There was another good lighthouse one—maybe Race Rock Light, on Fisher’s Island? I see that one high in the rankings, but I can’t remember if it’s the one I’m thinking of. And a fun one in which they investigate a Revolutionary inn that they’d bought themselves. My absolute favorite, though, may be somewhat unexpected—it’s that restaurant in California where the team finds out that the owners are faking everything. Brilliant example of how closely connected the ghost story and the detective story are: Jason and Grant’s detective work is tons of fun, especially the way in which they gradually debunk everything. Steve and Tango, on the other hand, are (as scripted, probably) utter nincompoops. So, what say you? EDIT: In looking through the episode list for information for this post, I saw that the GH crew went the Isles of Shoals… Gotta find that episode, as I know Portsmouth and the Shoals pretty well. deembastille , MCDemuth , wanton87 , hardball and anyone else who may be interested.
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Post by deembastille on Apr 19, 2018 18:18:32 GMT
Dude, run!!!
Any ep with Brian and he would get all pissy and juvenile.
All eps with Tango.
Any ep where they investigate a famous place.
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Post by MCDemuth on Apr 19, 2018 20:17:32 GMT
Yes, in the early seasons they were very good, at debunking, and not finding much evidence... This makes me think there was not much faking going on at that time...
So, when they did find stuff... Even skeptics would have to ask: "What was it exactly that they caught as evidence?"
Yes, that one is probably my top favorite episode...
The team SAW and HEARD the phenomenon, as well as captured it on Video & Audio... WIN WIN.
This was also early on, when Brian was still on the team, so that makes me more open to the possibility that it was all genuine...
AND YOU KNOW, there is no way for any real people to escape from the team in that lighthouse, so there were not any living pranksters in there! Which makes it very hard to debunk!
Another favorite of mine was....
The "Bird Cage Theatre" & Tombstone, Arizona... They caught an brief EVP of music from a (calliope?), and it was probably a "residual haunting"... Recording phantom music like that, seems to be a very rare event in Paranormal Investigations, and I think the only time, that happened on the show.
I also liked the time, the team caught those couple of EVPs in that Pearl Harbor Hangar...
"Come Weld This Thing/Wing" & get the doors open...
Also it was probably a residual haunting, but either way, hearing those was Chilling!
The episodes with Maddie, the dog, were good...
There was one where she got scared by "Something" at a door near a hallway.... and another time, where she was growling at "something" near a door...
Those were genuine reactions by Maddie....
"The Princess and the EVP" was another interesting episode...
It was one of the last episodes with Grant... Grant and Tango were in the Princess' bedroom, when the Princess screamed at them, to get their attention!... They heard it and it was caught on Audio.
I would like to think that one was real...
I would really like to think that "The Spalding Inn", Jay & Grant's place, in "Please Sign the Ghostbook", was a genuine haunting... But, since it was their place, it's hard to be sure...
The idea that Ghosts were re-locking the doors as they unlocked them, is really interesting...
How about that time when they saw and captured on video, the ghostly figure walking on the flight deck of the aircraft carrier...
How about that episode with the Whistling Ghost... I forget which episode that was, but it was creepy and funny at the same time! LOL!
I'll never forget the time, they team were investigating, a ship... I think, and something loudly ran across the metal flooring right above them...
Obviously, that is hard to be sure if that was a genuine spirit or not, but something was there.
Actually, there were many investigations that were good ones, but I can't remember all the specifics...
No matter what... I liked TAPS methods of investigating though... "If it can be something else, like it orbs could be dust or raindrops, you have to throw that piece of evidence out!"
I seen other paranormal shows where investigators "just assume that it's a ghost", and I can't stand those, because there is no credibility there.
Except for some of the occasional "claims", that some TAPS members or the production staff, faked some evidence... I think for the most part, "Ghost Hunters" remains one of the best paranormal shows ever.
Sadly, with all of their "evidence", people still think the paranormal is "nonsense"... I just have to wonder what exactly it will take for them to believe... Perhaps, getting thrown down by an invisible force is the only way to convince them... (Remember That One?)
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Post by hardball on Apr 19, 2018 23:12:11 GMT
I haven't seen an episode of this show. The ones that I have watched are Ghost Adventures and a few episodes of Paranormal Lockdown and the Dead Files. How does Ghost Hunters compare with those, for those who have seen these shows?
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Post by deembastille on Apr 20, 2018 1:27:31 GMT
I haven't seen an episode of this show. The ones that I have watched are Ghost Adventures and a few episodes of Paranormal Lockdown and the Dead Files. How does Ghost Hunters compare with those, for those who have seen these shows? I have only seen ghost adventures and they don't compare at all IMO. Zak is annoying af and abRasIve. In ghost hunters (which is now a former show) you would see the case come full circle. From the information about the site or home to the initial walkthrough to the camera placement to the actual investigation to the analysis to the reveal to the clients.
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Post by wanton87 on Apr 21, 2018 3:27:30 GMT
I saw your tag Nalkarj, and mistakenly thought that this series was filed in the paranormal subforum. I actually wasn’t aware that this subforum existed, and that Ghost Hunters had its own dedicated forum? As it turns out, I have seen several episodes of this show, and feel that it’s one of the better paranormal investigative shows, that actually makes an honest attempt at objectivity. I was unaware that one of the original founders had moved on. I recall Amy Bruni well (I forgot the other girl’s name?) and heard her, along with Adam Berry not too long ago in a guest spot on coast to coast am, where they discussed the launch of their new show, Kindred Spirits.
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 22, 2018 23:23:58 GMT
We did indeed begin discussing it in the Paranormal category, wanton87, and this subforum is new. I agree that Ghost Hunters made an honest attempt at objectivity, as you say—which is very rare with this kind of program! Was the other girl Kris Williams? Apropos of Ghost Adventures, hardball , but I agree with deembastille that it’s not very good; indeed, I’d go one step further and say it’s absolutely awful. Zak, the lead, is atrocious, and that big bald guy who screams like a little girl is even worse. I haven’t seen the others, but I definitely find Hunters infinitely superior to Adventures.
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Post by deembastille on Apr 23, 2018 1:19:53 GMT
The sad thing, is that my first ghost show was most haunted from BBC. It was amazing and hysterical. The level of faking surpassed GH by a mile bit not by everyone. The head person and her husband ran the show and we're great but they had this psychic Derek Akora who was faking and they finally got him in a lie.
One thing to understand... The team is only there for a short while and like a brat student, will probably not misbehave I front of Mom and Dad like clockwork. So the fact that ~some~ things are faked... As long as the thing being faked has a ring if truth to it... I can understand.
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Post by wanton87 on Apr 23, 2018 1:31:35 GMT
That looks like her Nalkarj although I seem to recall that she had blond hair at the time? She was the more glamorous looking of the two, but Ami Bruni’s girl next door looks would appeal more to me. For anyone that happens to catch this in time, I posted in the other subforum about tonight’s coast to coast am show addressing the mysterious disappearances of people in national forests. imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/55480/people-who-disappear-trace
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Post by Nalkarj on Jun 1, 2018 12:15:32 GMT
It’s a bump!
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Post by deembastille on Jun 1, 2018 19:24:04 GMT
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Post by Nalkarj on Oct 1, 2019 22:37:03 GMT
It’s back (sorta)!
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Post by Nalkarj on Aug 22, 2021 21:07:28 GMT
Anyone know what episode this is? I think a door at the top of a staircase kept closing on its own. This may be the same episode in which Grant’s at one end of a staircase and keeps hearing something at the other, and Jason’s at the other and hears vice versa.
And it may or may not be the same one in which someone puts flour down and footprints appear.
I’d love to identify all two or three episodes. If anyone knows them, please let me know! Thanks in advance.
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Post by Mia on Aug 26, 2021 1:53:58 GMT
I don't recall the episode names, but definitely the lighthouse episode.
Not sure if that was the one where the camera guy who was with them for so long had his camera flipped on him, into his face, almost knocking him backwards or off his feet. He was so spooked that he quit his job right after that. To me, that was pretty convincing.
There was another one where they had an EMF metre and were asking very specific yes and no questions, and were getting very specific replies each time.
Any time I see objects move, there was a toy truck that moved off a shelf and the shelf had a lip on it, so I can't imagine a sudden breeze would let it randomly "roll" off a top shelf.
I know they said a lot of it was fake and scripted, yet so many things seemed legitimate on camera. I also liked that they did a lot of debunking, as was mentioned when they caught that facility who set up a bunch of fake noise makers to try and it seem like their place was haunted, but they busted the owners. Sweet justice.
The hangar scene (was that when the camera guy got spooked? Walking on one of the hangar walkways?)
There were definitely some great episodes, to be sure, and I never felt like I was suckered.
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Post by Nalkarj on Aug 26, 2021 3:15:20 GMT
I don't recall the episode names, but definitely the lighthouse episode. Not sure if that was the one where the camera guy who was with them for so long had his camera flipped on him, into his face, almost knocking him backwards or off his feet. He was so spooked that he quit his job right after that. To me, that was pretty convincing. There was another one where they had an EMF metre and were asking very specific yes and no questions, and were getting very specific replies each time. Any time I see objects move, there was a toy truck that moved off a shelf and the shelf had a lip on it, so I can't imagine a sudden breeze would let it randomly "roll" off a top shelf. I know they said a lot of it was fake and scripted, yet so many things seemed legitimate on camera. I also liked that they did a lot of debunking, as was mentioned when they caught that facility who set up a bunch of fake noise makers to try and it seem like their place was haunted, but they busted the owners. Sweet justice.
The hangar scene (was that when the camera guy got spooked? Walking on one of the hangar walkways?) There were definitely some great episodes, to be sure, and I never felt like I was suckered. Was it fake and scripted? (I just see people from our religion board coming here and saying, “Of course it was, Salzmank. There are no such things are ghosts.”) Most of the paranormal shows—especially the unspeakable Ghost Adventures—seem obviously fake. But with Ghost Hunters, at least early Ghost Hunters…I dunno, the spooky stuff was never so over-the-top spooky that it became unbelievable. And, at least in the beginning, they were reluctant to say something was paranormal. In many early episodes, they’re more likely to attribute spooky noises to steam heat than ghosts. If they were fakers, in other words, they were better and smarter fakers than every other ghost show on TV. And I would have expected that, after all these years, someone from the team would have come forward exposing them. Even Donna LaCroix, who (in)famously left the Ghost Hunters team with bad blood, said she never saw anything faked. OK, non-disclosure agreements and all, but… After all this time? Not a single leak? I dunno. Still, if they were faking, I’m more inclined to believe they were faking the later episodes (where the show became much more of a “reality” drama) than the earlier ones. They seemed genuinely disgusted when they found that one place faked a haunting. Again, if that was acting, it was amazingly convincing acting for a Sci-Fi channel series.
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